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FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-06-2014 11:50 PM

FT-86 SpeedFactory Front Splitter - Pics + Data
 
I know we have been hunting for a good front splitter for our race car just like a few others and there really isn't a straight forward option out there.

We tried an APR one, and honestly were not impressed. For something "made" for the car it had no install instructions and no holes drilled anywhere for mounting. Not straight forward and not something we can recommend to the weekend track guys needing a quick and easy solution.

So we looked for a solution that would be quick to install, provide instructions, and be something very functional with the data to back it up. This is what is pictured below.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/f...litter_FRS.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/f...tter_FRS-3.jpg

This front splitter that comes with instructions, air flow data, and hardware to install with no drilling or guess work. It's not bumper specific so it will work on the FRS or BRZ as well. :)

This splitter creates downforce, reduces drag, and improves aerodynamic balance.

@ 100mph

- Drag Force Decrease: 1 lb
- Total Downforce Increase: 43 lbs.
- Front Downfroce Increase: 23 lbs.
- Rear Downforce Increase: 20 lbs
- Aerodynamic Balance: 40/60

Full CFD Breakdown - PDF Document

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/f...tter_FRS-5.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/f...tter_FRS-6.jpg



Combine this with a Driveway Labs T1 diffuser and you got yourself a nice increase in aerodynamic balance.

More testing along with videos coming soon.



mashal 05-07-2014 12:08 AM

Yes please

KAR 05-07-2014 12:30 AM

Will this work combined with say a lip kit from apr or rexpeed??

FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-07-2014 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAR (Post 1720281)
Will this work combined with say a lip kit from apr or rexpeed??

At that point you will need to fabricate your own mounting solution. The lip from those kits would lower the point of the splitter and change the entire tested parameters. You would also need to get longer bolts and spacers to mount then.

You would also probably never be able to use a driveway again. :cheers:

suaveflooder 05-07-2014 12:35 AM

In as well! Very interested if the price is reasonable.

JDKane527 05-07-2014 12:39 AM

Looks sweet! On the website, it is named the "Street Performance". Will there be a race version?

gramicci101 05-07-2014 01:01 AM

My offer for trade is still open. No Starbucks gift cards though, just the chips will bring it to about a matching price point.

Wonderbar 05-07-2014 07:09 AM

One of these will be going on my car.

Gunman 05-07-2014 07:35 AM

What is the material?

Mad1723 05-07-2014 07:53 AM

Ooooh, the "no-drilling" part got me interested! Might go in my Wishlist! Thanks for that guys!

ToyoburuBRZ 05-07-2014 09:20 AM

Will this work on the BRZ as well?

Andrew025 05-07-2014 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 1720198)
It's not bumper specific so it will work on the FRS or BRZ as well. :)



Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyoburuBRZ (Post 1720722)
Will this work on the BRZ as well?

:word:

FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-07-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 1720663)
What is the material?

Splitter is water jet cut (same process for cutting metal, that's how hard it is) from a proprietary plastic. It is stronger and lighter than ABS and very durable.

STV3 05-07-2014 01:27 PM

This is really nice! I have an APR splitter for my SRT-4 and while it is a solid product I must agree, they sent it to me in a box with just the splitter itself and some bolts and the two rods. No paper work or anything. So I kinda lined it up with the bumper and drilled some holes and hoped for the best lol

Gunman 05-07-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 1721140)
Splitter is water jet cut (same process for cutting metal, that's how hard it is) from a proprietary plastic. It is stronger and lighter than ABS and very durable.

Nice, so somewhat abradable, but not as fibrous as Tegris or as heavy as Jabroc?

plucas 05-07-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 1721217)
Nice, so somewhat abradable, but not as fibrous as Tegris or as heavy as Jabroc?

Correct. Tegris would have just priced this out of the market so had to come up with a better solution.

eric6 05-07-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 1721217)
Nice, so somewhat abradable, but not as fibrous as Tegris or as heavy as Jabroc?

It is an abrasive material, not fibrous at all. Similar to that of ABS but withstands more damage. I've had it on for 2k miles now and small bottom outs have happened, no major damage has been noticed though.

The splitter is 1/2" thick and weighs under 10 pounds.

Edit: Partner in crime responded before me.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-07-2014 04:06 PM

Splitter weighs in at 9.8lbs. :)

Superhatch 05-07-2014 04:57 PM

Would purchase.

Superhatch 05-07-2014 05:05 PM

Would purchase.

86-tundra 05-07-2014 05:13 PM

I see videos coming soon.. but what about some pics?? :)

plucas 05-07-2014 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevorovert (Post 1721854)
I see videos coming soon.. but what about some pics?? :)

There is a picture on the website :D

http://ft86speedfactory.com/ft-86-sf...tter-1648.html

Nhil 05-07-2014 08:56 PM

Is this able to take cone hits at 80 mph without damage?

Model Citizen 05-07-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nhil (Post 1722376)
Is this able to take cone hits at 80 mph without damage?

^


Will this punt cones?

cjsporl1996 05-07-2014 09:38 PM

testing information

http://ft86speedfactory.com/instruct...nformation.pdf

FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-07-2014 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nhil (Post 1722376)
Is this able to take cone hits at 80 mph without damage?

If your bumper can this definitely can. Way stronger

JohnJuan 05-07-2014 10:08 PM

If I were to buy one, would there be a way for me to contribute real-world data for the downforce measurements on the splitter? I like your analysis, but I think it would be cooler to get data that takes all of the car's shapes into account.

Gunman 05-07-2014 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnJuan (Post 1722536)
If I were to buy one, would there be a way for me to contribute real-world data for the downforce measurements on the splitter? I like your analysis, but I think it would be cooler to get data that takes all of the car's shapes into account.

Put the car in a wind tunnel, without, and with the splitter. Just takes $$$.

dem00n 05-07-2014 10:31 PM

Need to see it on a FRS too!

Everyone knows those are the only ones you see on the track ripping it anyways...

eric6 05-08-2014 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnJuan (Post 1722536)
If I were to buy one, would there be a way for me to contribute real-world data for the downforce measurements on the splitter? I like your analysis, but I think it would be cooler to get data that takes all of the car's shapes into account.

The time and money in order to do this would not make it possible for most. You would either need access to a wind tunnel, or very sensitive load sensors with a data logging system.

plucas 05-09-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDKane527 (Post 1720304)
Looks sweet! On the website, it is named the "Street Performance". Will there be a race version?

I saw this and forgot to comment. If there is a race version, the street version will be able to be converted to race version. So there won't be a worry of buying the street version and regretting waiting for the race version.

Grip Ronin 05-09-2014 11:35 PM

i definitely appreciate the data. i was kinda hoping it would be around $170~ being plastic. heavy ass plastic lol

eric6 05-10-2014 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grip Ronin (Post 1727286)
i definitely appreciate the data. i was kinda hoping it would be around $170~ being plastic. heavy ass plastic lol

The material isn't plastic though. Plastic would deform significantly at 40 lbs of down force. We looked into various materials and this was the only cost effective material that we thought most customers would be willing to buy. $170 wouldn't even cover the cost for a single splitter. We keep all materials and manufacturing in the United States. This makes it harder to compete with manufacturers that farm it out to other countries.

This material is strong enough to hold up 150 pounds or more, and in fact I stood on the front of my car to prove it. The issue is it attaches to the bumper, which is plastic and bows down. We will remedy this issue with the race version using additional reinforcement that attaches to a more rigid part of the car structure. This reinforcement will then carry the bulk of the load generated by the down force. The street splitter is perfect for auto crosses and people who want an aesthetic upgrade that actually works.

I realize this is not the most appealing splitter on the market but I can assure you that no other splitter produces down force similar to this one. If you look at the designs out there and understand the fundamentals behind a splitter, it is fairly easy to tell that most of the other splitters on the market are either purely cosmetic, or mostly cosmetic with a splash of performance.

gramicci101 05-10-2014 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric6 (Post 1728269)
This material is strong enough to hold up 150 pounds or more, and in fact I stood on the front of my car to prove it. The issue is it attaches to the bumper, which is plastic and bows down. We will remedy this issue with the race version using additional reinforcement that attaches to a more rigid part of the car structure. This reinforcement will then carry the bulk of the load generated by the down force.

You could keep the same mounting point, just put a brace on the inside of the bumper that would tie in to something sturdy. Then bolt straight through the splitter, bumper, and brace. It would be helpful if the brace had a captive nut on it.

8686 05-10-2014 05:06 PM

I am now more interested in the race version


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Nevermore 05-10-2014 05:46 PM

Does it have the extra bumper mounts like the APR one? I can never remember what they're called. The little piston looking things.

JDKane527 05-10-2014 05:53 PM

Has this been tested at speed? I've already ordered it but I'm questioning if I should bother installing it before next track day or if it will just end up ripping off

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eric6 05-10-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDKane527 (Post 1728377)
Has this been tested at speed? I've already ordered it but I'm questioning if I should bother installing it before next track day or if it will just end up ripping off

I have had it into the triple digits multiple times, the splitter is held in very firmly. If it's coming off, your bumper is coming off. It has been curbed, bumped, stood on, and driven at high rates of speed. Here is a video of the splitter in action at 100 MPH.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLwSrouI71U&list=UUpVmSjcwyzze1YGEsCuVfXA"]Splitter R&D - YouTube[/ame]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 1728369)
Does it have the extra bumper mounts like the APR one? I can never remember what they're called. The little piston looking things.

We are working on a cost effective solution for the race version to ensure that the splitter remains parallel with the ground at high rates of speed associated with racing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8686 (Post 1728291)
I am now more interested in the race version

The race version will be an add on to the street splitter. It is currently in the works.

JDKane527 05-16-2014 03:24 AM

Received the splitter yesterday, and got around to installing it today. Install is pretty straight forward, the only difficulty I found was getting the 25mm bolts with spacers to thread, a longer bolt would make this easier.

This generates downforce. I removed the foam behind the front bumper some time ago. Took the car out for a drive, got up to 90mph, didn't hit triple digits though, and the top clips on the passenger side next to the headlight started popping out. I'll have to try installing the foam this weekend and see if that helps support the bumper. Tie rods or some other support to the chassis would help.

Update: I believe that last time I installed the bumper, I didn't bank the bumper towards the car when tightening the top mounting bolts. I loosened those bolts slightly and lightly pushed the bumper in and retightened. End result is success, hit triple digits and securely mounted.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7335/...17fe17bc_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7446/...3cfe9a6b_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7401/...8786f32c_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7430/...4431f132_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5154/...37b85697_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7430/...960b1e0a_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/...c65ccddc_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5072/...326e9b7d_b.jpgFT86SF Splitter by jdkane527, on Flickr

calibrz 05-16-2014 12:12 PM

the lip looks so BIG


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