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Simon99 04-29-2014 07:29 PM

Police mode on limited BRZ: input needed
 
So I had this vague idea today while I had to go get some quick money at the ATM: would there be a way, with the Push to start system, to keep the car on, get out with the key in your pocket and lock the car, essentially keeping the car running and locked (aka my police mode) while you run a quick errand. Input is appreciated.

For all those who came hoping to see a WRB with police lights, I'm sorry you were disappointed :(

tahdizzle 04-29-2014 07:30 PM

Why? Only question I have.

wrb 04-29-2014 07:31 PM

I am not sure.

have you tried it? I feel like it's possible...

how about.. leaving the spare key inside the car?
walk away and lock it with the other key?

Simon99 04-29-2014 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 1705610)
Why? Only question I have.

Because it looks sick, remove a quick (but necessary) step and because my BRZ refused to start today, and I though it maybe was because of on/off too many time without alternator recharginf in between.

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Simon99 04-29-2014 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrb (Post 1705612)
I am not sure.

have you tried it? I feel like it's possible...

how about.. leaving the spare key inside the car?
walk away and lock it with the other key?

I tried it. It beeps and doesnt let you lock it. I didnt try the spare key method though !

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kberkel 04-29-2014 07:38 PM

Will it not lock with the inside door button after you open the door, and then get out?

I used to leave my old car unlocked for small trips all the time when I ran into gas stations in college. Came out one time, started driving and two of my friends were hiding in my back seat.

Terrifying :lol:

mashal 04-29-2014 07:59 PM

Lock the door manually when you get out

GregV 04-29-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mashal (Post 1705670)
Lock the door manually when you get out

Are you able to unlock it after that? I think the fob is disabled while the car is running. Or at least the exterior sensors are.

mashal 04-29-2014 08:19 PM

Fob is disabled once the handbrake is released.

Muskokan 04-29-2014 08:24 PM

Also very interesting in this, when you just cold started your car and have to jump out to pick up drugs on the corner you don't want to have to cold start your car again, but your sure as hell not gunna leave it unlocked!

vividracing 04-29-2014 08:30 PM

My Smart key on my Evo X is capable of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashal (Post 1705670)
Lock the door manually when you get out


N1rve 04-29-2014 09:07 PM

Lol I posted about this before. It's more like a "How smart is this smart key?"

Other car companies have this down... Why hasn't Toyobaru?

The only way to do it is to physically lock the door and then open it with the little key inside your key fob.

dxero 04-29-2014 09:20 PM

I do this every morning to warm up the car. Would ve nice if the fob works, but yea I still need to physically unlock with the little inside the fob.

Simon99 04-29-2014 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 1705856)
Lol I posted about this before. It's more like a "How smart is this smart key?"

Other car companies have this down... Why hasn't Toyobaru?

The only way to do it is to physically lock the door and then open it with the little key inside your key fob.

Maybe some gurus could find a way to mess with some wires or something, a bypass of some sort to allow locking and unlocking with the fob... but thanks for the physical key idea, ill use thar for now !

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gramicci101 04-29-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskokan (Post 1705731)
Also very interesting in this, when you just cold started your car and have to jump out to pick up drugs on the corner you don't want to have to cold start your car again, but your sure as hell not gunna leave it unlocked!

That's why you have a driver. You can't make a fast getaway if you have to slide in behind the steering wheel and get situated first.

Muskokan 04-29-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1705949)
That's why you have a driver. You can't make a fast getaway if you have to slide in behind the steering wheel and get situated first.

Keyless entry and the presence of certain thangs in the bloodstream make it a lot quicker than you think ;) haha

Simon99 04-29-2014 11:07 PM

Ill look around other car forums seenif there a fix and maybe somebody with experience could adapt it to our car !

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Jyn 04-30-2014 01:32 PM

I really don't understand what's difficult about turning your car off, and then back on. There's even a button to push to do it..

Simon99 04-30-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyn (Post 1707088)
I really don't understand what's difficult about turning your car off, and then back on. There's even a button to push to do it..

Thats not the point man. Lets say you're in Canada and you have a snow time ( not talking about 10cm New-York, talking about -45 canadian snow) and you drive brz in the winter. You're working, taking 2 mins to go start it so it warms up but at the same time you want to lock it so hobos don't try to warm in it ...

sshole 04-30-2014 01:56 PM

Live in a more secluded area, then.

tahdizzle 04-30-2014 02:00 PM

Well this is a bit of a common sense thing....

I for one, would not be driving my BRZ in -45 degree blizzard.

Simon99 04-30-2014 02:03 PM

Not to sound like an asshole, although I probably will, but I didn't ask you guys if I should change country, drive my car in the wintertime or become an astronaut, I asked if doing a specific thing with the smart key that is doable on other car could be fitted to the BRZ. Thanks for your interest though, when I move to Panama you guys will be the first ones with a postal card.

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sshole 04-30-2014 02:34 PM

Not to sound like a, well, my username, but you posted this on the internet. Were you expecting serious replies?

Simon99 04-30-2014 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sshole (Post 1707264)
Not to sound like a, well, my username, but you posted this on the internet. Were you expecting serious replies?

To be honest with you bro, I didn't post on Reddit or 4chan. Yeah I was hoping that on an enthusiast forum I would get a couple of people interested in getting the most out of their 25K purchase.

sshole 04-30-2014 02:44 PM

Fair enough. Carry on.

Jyn 04-30-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon99 (Post 1707130)
Thats not the point man. Lets say you're in Canada and you have a snow time ( not talking about 10cm New-York, talking about -45 canadian snow) and you drive brz in the winter. You're working, taking 2 mins to go start it so it warms up but at the same time you want to lock it so hobos don't try to warm in it ...

Buy an aftermarket alarm system.

Viper 5901 (a bit outdated, but still very nice), features a remote start with clutch bypass. It comes with a 2-way remote that shows whether your door is locked or unlocked, features that allow you to set how long remote start will warm your car up for, and many other features. I think this would fit your needs.

Simon99 04-30-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyn (Post 1707306)
Buy an aftermarket alarm system.

Viper 5901 (a bit outdated, but still very nice), features a remote start with clutch bypass. It comes with a 2-way remote that shows whether your door is locked or unlocked, features that allow you to set how long remote start will warm your car up for, and many other features. I think this would fit your needs.

I could check on that, but I was under the impression it was impossuble with the smart key ! Ill look around the forums thanks :)

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tahdizzle 04-30-2014 03:04 PM

Well, asking if converting a brz into a snow plow is doable is a question also.

But I would respond the same. Why?

Jyn 04-30-2014 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon99 (Post 1707317)
I could check on that, but I was under the impression it was impossuble with the smart key ! Ill look around the forums thanks :)

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May be easier to just contact Viper directly or a reputable and authorized installer. Most audio shops are authorized, just the reputable part that may take some investigating. Local car forums are your best lead for that part.

Jac 04-30-2014 07:40 PM

During winter i was locking my car via the switch inside the door, letting the car warm up, and then unlocking with the small key in my fob.

Well, that worked great until one day my fob didn't unlock the car because the lock had frozen. Spent 10mins trying to open it/warm up the lock with no success.

Thankfully i was still able to access the trunk and had to go in that way to unlock the car. Must've been pretty funny for everyone going by watching a 6ft2/230lb dude trying to squeeze into a tiny trunk :(

CoupedUpSubie 05-01-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 1707356)
Well, asking if converting a brz into a snow plow is doable is a question also.

But I would respond the same. Why?

The best answer to that is simple. The more times you start a car in cold weather(below freezing) the harder it is on your battery. An extreme test would be to go somewhere it is 15F and start your car, drive around the block(less then 2 miles) then park it and shut it off. Do this with 5 minutes in between each run. Do atleast 10 runs like this. Let the car sit overnight while the temperature drops near or below 0F. Wake up in the morning while it is still well below freezing and start your car. It either will barely start or won't start. There is your answer as to why.

mashal 05-01-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoupedUpSubie (Post 1708972)
The best answer to that is simple. The more times you start a car in cold weather(below freezing) the harder it is on your battery. An extreme test would be to go somewhere it is 15F and start your car, drive around the block(less then 2 miles) then park it and shut it off. Do this with 5 minutes in between each run. Do atleast 10 runs like this. Let the car sit overnight while the temperature drops near or below 0F. Wake up in the morning while it is still well below freezing and start your car. It either will barely start or won't start. There is your answer as to why.

Your theory is wrong. The temps reach anywhere between -20 low to -4 F here in the winter, never had an issue starting the car. Its not the battery as much as it's the gas ..
Hell we keep airplanes outside for months in those temps and just takes one crank for it to fire off.

CoupedUpSubie 05-01-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashal (Post 1709021)
Your theory is wrong. The temps reach anywhere between -20 low to -4 F here in the winter, never had an issue starting the car. Its not the battery as much as it's the gas ..
Hell we keep airplanes outside for months in those temps and just takes one crank for it to fire off.

No theory in my statement. I have roll started a few cars due to a battery that had been run low due to many on/off cycles or leaving headlights, radio, dome light or other accessory on for a while. Lead acid batteries do not take well to a low charge in cold weather. I live in Maine and have dealt with below 0 temps.

stugray 05-01-2014 10:14 AM

Some of us think the question is moot because it is illegal where I live to leave the car running with no-one in it.....

And I cannot imagine any reasonable scenario that has one starting & stopping so often that they even need this feature. Maybe my neighborhood milkman, but he drives a big truck, not a BRZ/FR-S

Ben_G 05-01-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 1709041)
Some of us think the question is moot because it is illegal where I live to leave the car running with no-one in it.....

And I cannot imagine any reasonable scenario that has one starting & stopping so often that they even need this feature. Maybe my neighborhood milkman, but he drives a big truck, not a BRZ/FR-S

Mini threadjack, but you have a milkman for reals?? like door to door residential???

BRZerk 05-01-2014 10:42 AM

i want to be able to do this in the winter.

stugray 05-01-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben_G (Post 1709080)
Mini threadjack, but you have a milkman for reals?? like door to door residential???

Yes. locally produced. we get about 3 gallons a week.


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