Where's the white man comedian doing a set on black people?
 

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Go for it. See how it works out

You only talk about people of your own creed, otherwise you look like/are perceived to be 'insert word'-ist.

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I think if you don't focus on only one race you're golden. However, if all your jokes are black, black, black or Asian, Asian, Asian, you're looking for trouble.

Simple - minority vs. majority. The protection of the minority against the majority is a founding principle of this country. James Madison wrote to that effect in the Federalist Papers.

It's a hypocritical society we live in. I've seen it done but it's definitely a thin line. Personally I don't give a fuck about offensive humor and stereotypes, but I understand how some people feel that such humor perpetuates a negative derogatory image etc.

So it's ok for such services as blackpeoplemeet.com, and to have black history month, but it's racist and evil to have a whitepeoplemeet.com or white history month. It's ok for black, Asian, and Mexican comedians to rip on whites all the time, but it's dangerous territory if it's a whitey on stage.

I've seen Tosh pull some pretty racy stuff and he seems to get away with it, but then again he's one of those comedians who hits everyone, even crippled folks. Nobody is off limits for that guy.

Tosh.O goes there quite a bit. One of my favorite lines of his is "It's funny because it's Racist!" lol.

Neal Brennan

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Brennan"]Neal Brennan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

He is Dave Chappelle's friend and will say some funny stuff.

He is nice and sincere on stage and never comes across as hateful.

That is the key...

Michael Richards (Kramer) was being hateful and that is why people were mad.

EDIT: yeah Tosh does it too.

NSFW
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ"]Offended by the "N word" - YouTube[/ame]

Russell peters will rip you a new one no matter funny ass accent you speak with... Thinking though I don't specifically recall him ripping on blacks

Don't watch comedy central much do ya?

Proud
to be White!
I have been wondering about why Whites are racists,
and no other race is......

Proud to be White

Michael Richards makes his point...
Michael Richards better known as Kramer
from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.

This was his defense speech in court
after making racial comments in his comedy act.
He makes some very interesting points...

Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans,
Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans..
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.

You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'...
And that's OK...
But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******,
Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or ***** ..
You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you....
So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP.
You have BET....

If we had WET
(White Entertainment Television),
we'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day,
you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month,
we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance'
OUR lives, we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that??

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant,
but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...
You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US ..
Yet if there were 'White colleges',
that would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights,
you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange,
and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride,
you call us racists.

You rob us, car jack us, and shoot at us.
But,
when a white police officer shoots a black gang member
or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law
and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud......
But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

There is nothing improper about this e-mail..
Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on.
I sadly don't think many will.

That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS
in this country.
We won't stand up for ourselves!

BE PROUD
TO BE WHITE!

It's not a crime YET....
But getting very close!

It is estimated that ONLY 5%
of those reaching this point in this e-mail,
will pass it on.

AMIWITE???? errr...RITE?

I am so offend. JK

I think the problem with Michael Righards opinions in that email is that he begins to sound defensive and resentful.

I'm all for embracing our differences, especially with a sense of humor, but the best way to eliminate racism is to stop talking about it.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3cGfrExozQ"]Morgan freeman solves the race problem. - YouTube[/ame]

I'll just leave this here....

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M"]Aamer Rahman (Fear of a Brown Planet) - Reverse Racism - YouTube[/ame]

The reverse racism talking point is just as annoying as the Jesse Jackson race baiters of the world. Almost as bad as the fundamentalist claiming they're oppressed because they can't beat people over the head with a bible.

Just a little something extra

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Lmfaooooooo my god thats horrible!

For people that don't know what it's like to be white.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY"]Louis CK - Being White - YouTube[/ame]

wait... uh.. did you just post a chain letter email in this thread?

Jesus fucking christ that's the whitest thing you could've done. Are you sure you're not someone's grandma?

Also Louis CK is awesome. And I think we need a stand up comedy thread now.

edit: oh and, white history month.. See, people can call it that if they want. I just call it "every day of the year pretty much."

I cannot disagree more with that. Closing our
eyes and hoping it goes away because it's an uncomfortable topic doesn't make it go away.


[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlxes7uiW4"]Immortal Technique Opens Up About Racism & Slavery - YouTube[/ame]

That's the point.

The thing I posted is an old chain email that was updated around the time of Richards' racist rant. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away any more effectively than it did pre-Civils Rights Act. And even then, we still have major problems with racism. Systems and institutions built on classism, sexism, and racism don't become free of them if the structures that allowed them to exist, still remain.

I guess I should've made it more clear that I was being sarcastic.

Man you guys don't understand what he's saying. He isn't saying that we should ignore it, he's saying to truly treat each other as equals and stop making racial differences such a big thing. By calling someone a "black man" or a "white man" it instantly categorizes them into whatever stereotypes it entails. it's not going to magically fix some bigot's opinion but it's a step toward equity that doesn't promote any form of racism or reverse racism where someone gets special recognition purely because of their skin.

I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but believe me: I completely understand what he's saying and it's the reason why I posted that chain letter. Black people have been purposefully excluded and barred from access to resources that whites have had for a long long time. The Civil Rights Act and Supreme Court decisions didn't retroactively adjust those outcomes socially or economically. Hell, even WITH those, we haven't made much progress and actively in the process of rolling them back as if those problems don't exist anymore.

Personally, I'm not even a fan of affirmative action because it's a top-down approach and a convenient way to ignore foundational problems in our institutions, but it's still necessary to increase access within our institutions because "we" want them to remain as they are.

You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*gger, n*gger, n*gger.” By 1968 you can't say “n*gger” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*gger, n*gger.” -Lee Atwater

^And this is why labels don't matter. You can still do the same harm without using the language.

someone's gonna be butthurt as fuck, and it ain't me lol..

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNkmIWFoDtk"]Chapelle show racial draft - YouTube[/ame]

Louis is awesome. :party0030:

LMAO



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Google is really racist.

No you're right, the only way to eliminate racism is to keep shoving it back into people's faces and rubbing their noses in it. I'm supposed to be ashamed that I'm white. Lets keep making it a front page topic and perpetuate the idea that racism is still as strong as ever.

I don't think anyone is trying to ignore history; of course a lot of Americans are ashamed about slavery just as most Germans are ashamed of the whole Hitler thing. To "stop talking about it" is simply a way to prove that we're trying to move on and recognize equality in each other.

AMEN!

I think the point he is trying to make is we make racism what it is. We separate humans into categories based on skin color or ethnicity. We see each other as black, white, asian, middle eastern, ect.... rather than as humans. The minute we remove the categories which set us apart from one another is the minute we unite as one people.

What makes you think that racism isn't as strong as ever? Just because people aren't burning crosses or executing kids for looking at a white woman doesn't mean that the sentiment doesn't exist nor are the social and institutional structures that allowed people to get away with it gone.

Did you even read my Atwater quote?

And no one is shaming you for being white. I get it: you didn't own slaves and no one alive owned slaves, but that doesn't mean that we aren't still affected by it.

So who decides what the baseline is for "acceptable human" behavior? Who decides what is superior?

What? How is that a response to what I said????

A friend a while back commented that the only twin owners he sees are Asians. He now bunches them with the 370Z owners whom are also majority Asians to him. :lol:

If that's what it takes to have a serious conversation about race then so be it. Yes, things are much better than they used to be, but there is work to be done.

People are not born on a level playing field. Taking away labels that describe race or ethnicity doesn't magically make it one nor does it change the circumstances that evolve from it. You're obviously not talking about rebuilding civilization from scratch and making everyone equal, thus leaving existing inequities in place, so what difference does it make if people are black, white, Asian, or Hindu? Who decides which one of those, or neither of those for that matter, is "normal" or "mainstream?" Why is "mainstream" considered mainstream? And what does it mean to not subscribe to mainstream culture?

Doing away with labels only shifts oppression from racism onto regionalism and classism.

Complex sociological concepts aren't solved by simply doing away with labels. Groups will simply find another way to otherize another group with new vocabulary.

You solve inequity by eliminating inequity; not by removing the vocabulary around it.

This is a good discussion, I don't want it to grenade... We're seeing the same problem from polar opposite approaches and I'm beginning to think we share the same opinions on some things.

Yes, that exactly. We're not burning crosses, we're not whipping slaves, we're not segregating bathrooms or making anyone sit anywhere on a bus. We can ALL vote. I've met Mexican, Asian, Russian, African, Irish, Jewish, and (insert race here) business owners who are all very successful. Have you seen our president?

You're right, there are residual elements, such as affirmative action, random bigotry, special government/social programs based on race... Whatever it may be, continuing to segregate (even if it's only statistical) and provide special treatments (good or bad) based on race is perpetuating the problem and it all begins to fade when we stop making race so important when it's actually irrelevant. Many of these things were intended to aid, but ultimately are a detriment and cause more problems.

We all agree it's an ongoing issue, but it's a ginormous leap from what it used to be. A fizzle of a sentiment doesn't mean it's a burning epidemic.

Yes I did read it, and as wonderfully insightful as it is, it seems to potentially seek out racism where it may not exist. I do believe that we incite racism by seemingly harmless means (which is what Atwater was getting at, I believe). Take a job application for instance, that requires you to fill out race and sex. Why is this relevant to the job? It's because we keep pushing the racism topic and making it forefront where it needs to be made irrelevant. Eliminate this kind of bullshit, stop making racism a hot topic and (I believe) it fades even more.

And yes I am shamed for being white. We carry a stain from or history that may never fade if racism keeps being popularized. We're not allowed to have the pride other races have. We're not allowed to have white-only scholarships or white only dating services. If we do have pride, we're instantly labelled as hateful racist bigoted pigs that are a disease to society. I'm not allowed to be offended by being called racist terms. I'm supposed to endure the burden because my ancestors did horrible things.

It's a double standard because we make it a double standard. It's an issue because we make race an issue. For instance, if we have a Rosa Parks Scholarship for some related education program, GREAT! Acknowledging a historical event is one thing, making it only available to black applicants is racist. If a young white male won the scholarship, would that be racist? Only if we choose to make it so.

Aunt Jemima
Beaner
Bluegum
Bootlip
Brownie
Buddhahead
Burrhead
Camel jockey
Chinaman
Ch*nk
Christ killer
Cholo
Coon
Cracker
Crow
Dago
Darky
Dink
Dot head
Dune coon
Flip
Gaijin
Gook
Greaser
Gringo
Guido
Guinea
Hajji
Half-breed
Heeb
Hillbilly
Honky
Ikey
Injun
Jap
Jigaboo
Jungle bunny
Kike
Kraut
Limey
Mick
Niglet
N*gger
Nip
Oreo
Paddy
Pancake Face
Peckerwood
Pikey
Polack
Pommy
Porch monkey
Prairie n*gger
Raghead
Redneck
Redskin
Round eye
Sand n*gger
Sand monkey
Slant-eye
Slope
Spade
Spearchucker
Spic
Spook
Squarehead
Squaw
Squinty
Tar-Baby
Towel head
Uncle Tom
Wetback
Wigger
Whitey
Wop
Yank
Yellow
Yankee
Yid
Zip
Zipperhead


Now that that's out in the open.........


They're just words. People get too offended from them. Maybe they're insecure about their own inner racism. But I do agree with Morgan Freeman in his video. There doesn't need to be a black history month, white history month, ect. Doing things like that and making it "okay" for one group and not another keeps racism alive and well. Same thing with colleges, scholarships, ect. It really needs to be an all or nothing. Either acceptable for all groups or unacceptable for all.