How are the isc n1 coilovers looking to buy coilovers
 

How are the isc n1 coilovers for the brz I want a coilover that's great for handling but is also good for a dd I'm looking to spend around the 1000$ price range if it has to be a little more that's ok

ill go BC

What are you looking for in a coilover

i want something that will handle more stiff than stock how are the buddy club racing coil overs

Budget? The only reason why I haven't suggested anything yet is because there are hundreds of options to choose from.

If you have any questions about our product or would like to learn more about our different valving options let us know. We are proud to support this community.
You can get our coilovers in a N1 or N1 basic.

We also offer control arms for your car

looking to spend under 1200 but if i have to spend more i don't mind

I haven't seen any reviews of ISC N1's, so if anyone can chime in with a helpful review that would be great;

I'll start off as cheap as I can go that I would recommend.

ST coilovers. Great quality and non-adjustable for what you get in the price range (under 1k) Made by KW to ST specs, the only difference between the ST and KW V1 is the Stainless Steel coating.

Bilstein PSS B14 a great progressive coilover that is non adjustable. When I say non adjustable I mean only height adjustable; anyway, those are specifically and optimally damped for the 86 just like the ST's are. Coming in hot just under 1k. Many find these to be of great quality for a DD coilover with spirited canyon/back country road days.

Fortune Auto have good coilovers, I have heard that the auto 500's are good, but I haven't extensively researched those in great detail. There is an optional Swift spring upgrade.

KW V1 is a little over your budget, as the cheapest I have found is around 1400, but it does come with the SS coating, so if you live in an area with a lot of snow and they use salt on the roads to clear it, this is definitely worth the look

Spring and Damper Combos

Koni and RCE yellow's: these I have heard have worked better than some coilovers, so obviously they have some merit to them.

There are also the B6/B8 Bilstein dampers and RCE Tarmac or Swift springs or RCE yellow, whichever spring you like the best;

The debate is up whether or not the B6 has different valving than the B8, since the B8's were designed by Bilstein to be used with lowering springs specifically. Whereas the B6 aren't.

Hope this helps.

The ISC N1's offer a lot for their price point. They offer ride height adjustment from about 1-3", 32 levels of damping adjustment, pillowball upper mounts, and a free thrust bearing (Macpherson Struts), amongst other things. The front suspension also has camber plates for our cars. For $955, there aren't too many coilovers that offer what the N1's do. We sell a lot of the ISC coilovers for the Acura/Honda lineup and I get nothing but good reviews from our customers. They will ride pretty stiff but it's nothing too, too aggressive when comparing it to the stock setups for our cars. And with the 32 levels of damping, there is plenty of room to modify the setup to your liking. They are offered in three different setups: Street Sport, Street Comfort, and Race Track. So if you want to order a more aggressive setup or a less aggressive setup, they provide you with that option.

I personally, have ridden in a few different cars with the N1's. One of our former employees had a gutted E36 and he had the Street Sport N1's on his car. I needed a ride to work one day and he let me drive the car. He had it as low as the N1's would go and he had damping set a bit stiffer than half way. Car handled amazingly and the ride wasn't rough considering it was a gutted car on some very thin tires. Bumps were a bit rough, but I imagine they would have been regardless of the suspension setup. There was very minimal body roll and cornering was tremendous.

I have also been in a 4G TL SH-AWD which is more of a luxury car that had the Street Comfort setup. We installed the N1's here at our shop and after the install I took it for a test drive. The ride was incredible with the Street Comforts. It did not lose that luxury feel but added a fair amount more performance to that luxury feel. I was very impressed with the Street Comforts because they did exactly what they are designed to do, keep comfort, improve performance, and not have a bouncy ride.

That's just a couple cars I have been in. Hope this helped.

Just as an FYI, the "levels of adjustment" for damper control doesn't mean shit. Lol. 15, 32, 3.... It's all arbitrary, really. On anything more than 15, you won't notice anything other than from going 2 or 3 clicks at a time

More clicks != quality

I'd go as far to say that anything with 32 levels of adjustment is probably made by the same factory that makes every other 32 easy adjustable coilover. At the last they'll look extremely similar on the inside. And that is not a good thing.

The most I've seen that actually does any kind of noticeable change is a 4 way adjustable coilover...from the big names, Ohlins, Penske, Moton, JRZ...the really expensive guys.

Albeit those are racecar level systems but...lol

The most I would go for any kind of adjustability through damping would be a 2 way. This car isn't quick enough stock or can pull the lateral G's it needs for anything as aggressive as a 4 way adjustable race setup.

I find it hilarious that BC/Megan Racing/etc/etc often claim 32 levels of damping for under or near $1,000. When in fact you should divide that 32 by 16.

On each individual adjustment, it seems like you can easily go past the threshold of usability when it comes to number of clicks. AST 4150s have 12 clicks if I remember right. And you can bet they actually do something useful.

Cheers
Nathan

Thank you for the kind words sir! Also thank you for calling it damping! :)


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$1000 will get you a height adjustable coilover from a reputable company, KW, RCE, Bilstein. The ones claiming to have damping adjustable in this price range are prone to failure and ride harshly like the BC's. I learned the hard way with height adjustable only when I lowered my car. No damping adjustability made my ride very bouncy, like the rebound was out of control over a small bump in the road. I didn't want a large wheel gap, but I also did not want to be slammed. I wanted a balance of being lowered with symmetrical LCA's in the back to not kill the geometry of the car.

I then swapped to the V3's and now have full control over rebound and compression. Doesn't matter how low I am, I can make these coilovers ride so comfortably, and sporty. It's unreal the difference between a $2000 coilover system versus a $1000. Even though you may not adjust it many times over the coarse of ownership, just having the ability TO adjust it to begin with is what makes them great. Having not tested many of the other setups around that $1000 I can't comment for all of them. I just know that only having height adjustable coils have many limitations including ride height to match the damping.

Each click represents a full turn, each turn the needle and jet get closer together, so yes each click does do something. Can you feel it on the "butt dyno" each individual click when driving on the street? Many probably don't, BUT it is adjusting and the range on our product specificity is pretty large from full soft to hard. This allows for an individual to really fine tune their setup to their preference/ driving style.

My .02 cents for the sub 1500.00 category would be a coilover with preload separate from ride height, actual adjustment (rebound/ compression), and top plates included. No sense in shorting yourself of features and quality. There are some good options out there ( BC, ISC Fortune, Tein Flex, etc.

We are not here to up sell you but we are here to provide support to the community as well as provide facts when false information is provided we will correct it so people have honest data to make decisions and educate themselves.

The BRZ/FRS has been a very strong focus for our brand this year, and we are putting forth a significant amount of time effort research and funding to continue to introduce products for your cars.

Here are over 1,000 Subaru reviews from the past 4+ years:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1972530


Here is our data for adjustability on our street setting (Street Sport) coilovers:

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Here is the Track Race:

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The Street Sport and the Track Race are two completely different products. The pistons and shim stacks are different beasts entirely. The result is a range of products that cater to an individuals needs. Our Street Sport's (S018-S) hardest setting is comparable to the SOFTEST setting on Track/Race (S018-T).

To the individual who was interested in our product. If your car is a street machine/ weekend fun car I would suggest the Street Sport. Message one of our dealers.

Hope that helped.
Have a good weekend everyone!

Thanks for the support,

Andrew
ISC

I think a good way to figure out a decent price point for a coilover system would be to look at how much it cost to replace the stock suspension with the stock suspension. A LOT of people love the stock suspension (including Jezzy). So, if you want something as equally amazing, you're going to have to either match or exceed that price point. I still haven't figured out how much the stock system costs tho :(

Food for thought

i dont track my car, so im going to throw out the disclaimer IM NOT SAYING THESE ARE HIGH PERFORMANCE RACING COILOVERS but for the street they are fine; sturdy, can adjust from soft to stiff, give a nice height range, and are affordable. my only issue would be i wish they came with thrust bearings. im on my second set of ISC N1 (IS300 and FR-S) and these are a little noisy. also, adjustable front end links would be cool since at the lowest setting in the front my sway bar is reaching for the sky (slight exaggeration for the imagery).

Thrust Bearings are now standard on most N1 applications sir, including the BRZ/FRS.

stellar. i need to order some in the near future. or are you saying mine already have them?

When did your purchase them? BRZ set? Basic or N1?

N1 for FR-S i would say september 2012.. ish.

Yours should already have them then sir. Should be inside the black cup in the front coilovers near the top before the spring.

interesting. i'm going to pull the front apart this weekend anyway cause the noises have gotten to the point where i need to reassure myself its not falling apart.

Could be benifical to re-lube them, we have a video on our youtube.

nut had backed off the end link on the strut side a little bit, giving it space to move around. all quiet now.

Good to hear, any other issues let us know!

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ISC Suspension’s 5 year Limited Warranty does not apply to the following:

1. Any products that are used on public roads, highways, and or government maintained roads or non-motorsport roads or tracks.
2. Any products not purchased through an authorized ISC Suspension dealer. Dealer List can be found here: ISC Suspension Dealers
3. Any products that show abuse, improper installation, or collision.
4. Any products that have been altered in any way.
5. Seized Collars, ISC Suspension recommends using anti-seize on all collars to avoid this.
A warranty claim form can be found on ISC’s website, under the warranty section.


Does #1 mean there is no warranty if driven on public roads?

As any other reputable coilover company we utilize this wording for legal reasons. If you look at the warranty policy on many other companies you will see similar terms. We pride ourselves on having the best customer service in the industry and never turn a customer away when they need help. A major difference is that our warranty is 5 years, not 1 or 2.

Please let us know if you have any more questions!

So you ARE saying that once installed and driven on a public road, the warranty is no longer is valid?

what they're saying is basically a reworded version of "off-road use only" which is on almost everything aftermarket performance stuffs.

No, what they said in their post is "We pride ourselves on having the best customer service in the industry and never turn a customer away when they need help"

I'd take that to mean that they use that as a disclaimer for a "just in case" legal scenario where you get pulled over by a cop, he fines you for being lowered. Then you try and throw that ticket to ISC because they never mentioned the product was for "Off-road use only" aka, only for the track. Classic legal disclaimer excusing them from lawsuits for a potentially dangerous situation where liability could fall back on the company.