Alfa Romeo 4C vs Corvette Stingray Z51
 

I post this here because I dont want a biased opinion from the vette and 4c forums. Either one means I will be parting with brz. Vette has manual, better performance, less bs to maintain. 4c is mid engined, raw steering, probably holds value better. 4c might gain extra lbs here and a fender bender to the cf monocoque could be a headache.

Honestly, I'd probably take the 'Vette, between those two options.

4C.

You won't come across that many mid engined cars in your life. A Vette can always be bought again, maybe this 4C will be rare...who knows.

This belongs in the off topic section.

I agree. 4C I really love that car. Also 50K for a mid engine mono carbon fiber tube ask me where will you find that.

Location: Canada

Is it going to be your DD?

good catch.

4C. Its going to have a low production volume

family sedan + off roader available, but I rather DD a 4c or a vette, and a bike will be on the way. I just might DD a bike all summer. I wouldn't mind DDing an exige/elise if they were more readily available.

I'd say test drive a corvette, you might find yourself wanting a v8 in your life.

Can't test drive the new vette around here, wont even let me touch it.

Corvette. Better aftermarket, don't get me wrong I love the 4c, 2300 pounds, steering so refined there is no power steering.

But V8 over I-4 any day, and the Z51 package on top of the Corvette will still be 10k cheaper than a 4C. Plus Heads Up Display.

HUD is only available on 2LT trim, its over 70k specced this way with Z51 taking into account the recent price hike, and I personaly think HuD is a gimmick. The alfa should be less.

the 4c seems to fall short of its hype/price tag. do you want to pay for exclusivity? if not, buy the vette. or even better yet just buy a super low mileage c5 or 6 because there are loads of old dudes who dont drive the piss out of them and now they want the c7 in a bad way.

Price wise I'd say its okay around the 50-60k mark. Compared to the more hardcore lotus the 4c kinda suck. Too bad lotuses are hard to come by.

66K but yeah after tax. But with the deals that will be available in a couple years once the novelty wears off I'm sure 65-68k OTD will be possible.

Vette.. descent DD as well as a track star.. V8 TQ, Came from an 08 C6 Z51
before the frs.. The C7 is a beast.. All my vettes held their value well and
were reliable..

4C!

Kind of apples and oranges.

Normally I'd say 4C as that's simply going to be more exotic...however Alfa is currently still a dead brand in Canada. There's the issue of importing it over which likely means it'll cost more than it normally should and no clue of whether its road legal in Canada. Next, even if that aspect goes well, Fiat doesn't have to warranty it nor provide you with any parts should something go wrong. As a garage showpiece it might be fine, but as a DD, everything you take for granted in a new car is no longer available and it has to be now be treated like a frail old car. Alfas aren't known to be durable so I'd reconsider.

If you were in Europe, the 4C certainly as Alfa Romeo exists as a brand to support the product. However with North America and currently no Alfa Romeo revival yet, Corvette simply because you could actually DD it and get all the benefits of a new car.

I believe the North America version of 4C is set to debut in next week's NY auto show. From a value proposition there is no reason to consider the 4c if its anywhere near the new vette price, but the vette seems to be outdated before customer can even get their hands it. There is already 4 variants of the vette, whereas the 4c and 4c spider will be the only alfa around for some time and hold better resale that is if it doesn't break down like alfas of old. Tough choice so many niche and quirks in the alfa, but its what made the ft86 initially appealing too.

Marchionne promised for 2015 in Geneva...when in 2015 is not clear. For all intensive purposes the car is unavailable for all of 2014. If you need a car sometime this year, then you'd have to remove the 4C off your list. He made no guarantees for Canada as well.

Both are nice but for me it's the 4C no question. Alfas are way more rare in the Americas and you never know if it's going to be a one-off. Corvettes are everywhere, perhaps not that model but still.

If you live a few miles from an Alfa/Maserati dealer then maybe the 4C. I see these as likely to be maintenance nightmares. Nice garage decoration (you do have a garage?). Maybe good for a few thousand miles per year. Quite likely to be rare. But if you expect it to hold value, driving in salt/snow is a no-go.

4C (although I'm sort of surprised if they aren't all spoken for already)

Vettes are a dime a dozen, and the new one will be also soon enough. The 4C will hold its value while the Vette's will plummet in a couple of years when they release an update with a slight bump in hp.

Also unless you live somewhere where you can really open it up, the Vette will be boring on public roads.

Since you can't decide between two rather distinct types of sports cars, the obvious answer for any 86 upgrader in your situation is Cayman GTS.

Are Lotus cars really that hard to come by in Canada? My idea of a perfect DD is a Lotus. Well, if I had 50k to spend I'd go get custom bodywork to extend the bumpers so that the car doesn't get totalled when the bumper gets slightly nicked, and so the aerodynamics suck slightly less.

The reviews I've seen on the 4c haven't been that impressive. So between those two, I'd get the C7.

But the real value would be getting a used Elise/Exige for half the price.

I would go C7 also. Z51 package is a must :). Find a few dealers and work down the It's a Corvette mark-up price. Decent of gas for the amount of power it has. Great handling and the interior seems to have jumped forwards a few decades from the C6.

C4 looks great on paper, but where are you going to get it serviced? It's also an Alfa, and I don't really trust it's reliability. How much would it be to insure compared to a Vette? How big of an impact can it take without damaging the CF tub? And who and where can repair it? Living in Europe, I might consider one, but in Canada, I would not.

Vette is not very rare, and not as prestigious, but for the location, the Vette is a way better choice. Living in Europe, I would not get a Vette.

4C is a once in a lifetime car. The corvette is the safer bet for an enjoyable experience.

It might be a moot point, can you even get your hands on a 4C? I wouldn't be surprised if dealers auctioned their units off.

http://www.autoedizione.com/alfa-rom...5000-4cs-2014/

Why not Porsche? Seems to be a decent middle ground, the Alfa and Chevy are so different.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGwawx4zaMg"]Alfa 4C v Porsche Cayman S - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame]

Ok let me preface this by saying both cars are great, and I actually have a picture of the 4C as my wallpaper at this moment.

But then they showed this off.
http://content.worldcarfans.co/2014/...1733084606.jpg

Almost always was a fan of coupe over convertible, but this is some damn good competition for the coupe. So Z06 Vert for me.

That and the proposed ridiculous weight gain for the US model are why I took my name off the list. Plus they messed up the steering and the US bumper will probably look awful. I'm not looking at it until they get their act together with proper revisions. They've only now just came out with a proper headlight, I mean really...? It's almost like a couple guys at Ferrari got drunk and put together a kit car while half asleep.

C7 for me but I am a little biased working for GM...

Corvette

'Merica

Overpriced and diluted. Glad I got ft86 over a 981 cayman s and saved a good chunk of change. Not even going to think about any porsches unless gt3 rs returns with a stick which is unlikely and engine is in the wrong place for the amount of money.

So how much are you willing to pony up for it? Looks good on the spec sheets and some photos, at the end of the day it is z51 vette with bolt on blower, few forged parts, wider treads and body panels plus a cf torque tube. Clueless dealers are telling me its worth 120k. I should just let the retirees have it.

how is that any different from any other suped up version of any other car?

C6Z had a fixed roof, unique aluminum chasis to it self at the time, and a completely different LS7 engine as oppose to just a bolt on blower. Even then it rang up at 25k over base model which is reasonable. C7Z is all bolt on and people want to hype it over 100k because 6xx? Even M or AMG gets you better value with new engine architect. Some customers and dealers are in over their heads for the C7, for that I will pass.

I'm thinking 40-50ish, after it's depreciated a ton like any new Vette does. And if it doesn't come down, I wouldn't complain about a standard C7 Vette. Hell, by the time I'm actually ready to buy something again the C7 Stingray will probably be in the low 30s.

Found a evora s for mid 60k prior to obtaining ft86 and passed up on it. Was not comfortable with the idea of owning a used lotus and wasn't sure of their quality overtime. Still don't know where to get them serviced. No official lotus dealers I'm aware of.

I entertained the idea of an Evora someday. Affordable supercar for the win, right? Then I started reading about issues, and about clutch replacement costs. Yuck. Cross that off my list. :(