Can Toyota use the 86/FR-S/BRZ platform for anything else?
 

There has been alot of talk of using the twins platform for other sports car. like a shorten version for the sub 86 car and a stretched version for a production FT-1. while that sounds nice and all can Toyota do it? the joint project gives Subaru ownership to right? i mean Toyota would need Subaru's permission if they wanted to use and modified it for any other purpose than with the twins? i dont know thats why I am asking. Thanks :)

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Your question may very well be above our collective pay grades .... ;)


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I don't think Toyota needs permission from Subaru for anything as the car was originated by Toyotas engineer and their vision from day one.

Anyhow who knows what's coming and who cares?....

When there is something actually sitting on a showroom floor, then I'll be interested and maybe care.

Not the exact chassis no because its made at Subaru. They would have to retool their machines to use this chassis, which wont EVER happen. What they may do is modify it for the FT-1 and build it in house.

Before Subaru even seen the car it was built actually. Of course at that time a fan dangle of equipment in it but the shape and original chassis etc was done. Tada went into negotiation with Subaru on the boxer motor and of course subaru a factory which also Toyota has % ownership in thus final results of the 86,frs,BRZ....this has all been discussed to death


Anyhow the ft1 is a much larger car and I doubt the current twins etc will be modded or changed much.

Again why care or speculate as so much bullshit rumours daily on power changes etc...

Can someone please post a link to the plugin I need to translate this thread.

Didn't toyota also was considering the toyota 86 sedan.

I'm not talking about the chassis. we all know Toyota did the bodywork. I'm talking about the platform. you guys do know the differences right? Anyways I'm asking because pretty much ever article I come across says its Subaru's platform...

Well kinda both.. Toyota owns a good chunk of Subaru now :cheers:

That would actually be pretty cool i would wanna see a sedan version.

FRS/BRZ, the Fiero of our generation

last time I checked it was only 16%. that isn't a whole lot. just one example, but Ford in the past had a 30%+ controlling interest in Mazda.

That's a terrible analogy! How many of those old Pontiac P.O.S. do you see on the road today? I liken my FRS to a late 60's 240Z! .

ROFL! Everyone does not deserve an FRS / BRZ!

A mild hybrid system would be cool

The FR-S/BRZ is based off the Impreza platform which is also used on the Forester and WRX/STi.

Buy one of those cars if you want something else on this platform.

Ya we know the difference. Do you know how to search this forum? If not sorry can't hold your hand, this has been discussed, hashed LONG ago, SEVERAL times and I'll just agree to disagree with you cause you just don't know. Please drive thru and have a nice day..

Sure you do. if y'all knew the differences, than why are y'all saying chassis when whats being talked about is the platform. ;)

and FYI, i did do a search. the only thread that showed up with "platform" in the title is the one below. and that one did not answer my question. so please STFU and move on.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28762

lol! Tough guy huh? ....Roids rot the brain so take it easy on em.. :) Don't want what you consider stupid responses? Don't create a dumb ass thread...

How is this a stupid thread? the only thing dumb around here is you...

I'll let it soak in I realize it may take you some time. It's ok..

lol at the level of maturity on this forum. I now see why the admins only sent out a selected number of PMs to a handful of members to join the new FT1 club. seems like they wanted people that can join and make good conversation instead of retarded trollers like you.

I'm sure you'll be buying one uh huh...well I needed a laugh. Juice Monkeys always do amuse me I'll give you that.

If you don't care than why even make a post in the first place. If you can't help or answer the question than just move on. Just my 2 cent.

I don't see why not. I make a good amount in health care and my house and cars are paid off. but nice try, assuming that someone can not afford something lol.

Nice try assuming I don't know anything. I'm an engineer, past 40 and I can far more then afford your dream car. Telling someone to STFU thats mature? Touché ...

If you hadn't gone to that length of immaturity I would have never responded to your cock attitude to begin with so have fun with your thread. Maybe you should think about that before being an asshole to people you don't know tough guy.

His question has been discussed likely a dozen or more times. It's clear WHO designed the entire car from day one. And it was answered Toyota does not and would not need permission from Subaru for anything. At one time Subaru wasn't even going to participate in the car. And if that had ended up being the case it still would have existed actually just with a different Engine etc. I don't care about what Toyota or Subaru do hear on out, what I do care in regards to is the repeated threads on the topic and people need to take a few minutes to look or go into off topics I suppose..

There you go...

so what you are telling us is that you're an old fart...

Reread some of your rude ass comments buddy.

And your a gymrat and someone who thinks he's a tough guy aka: STFU easy to know what that means If I'm an old fart to you we now know who's bullshitting. You could be renting and be 20 years old? I you're 20-30 and got a house paid off and two cars you're either a spoiled kid, or just out right fibbing to make yourself better that's fact anywhere in the world.

..We got that now keep me outta of your useless thread and move on and show your so called maturity? Let's see if you can do that...if you can I wont return..

I'm pretty sure it was co- developed by both companies. Seeing that it was joint project. Also every one says its a Subaru platform, and that is what the thread is mainly about.

I actually friends with friends' of the OP. The guy is a PT and makes about $250k a year.

Good for him so do I what's your point that gives him right to be an asshole and tough guy? No, no it doesn't...

Tell ya what when I'm home I'll find you a clear video, one of the first that says it wasn't. It was a Toyota vision and production. As said it was at one time NOT going to be a joint venture. Because I like the car I wouldn't have cared if it was a 100% Subaru car but that would have been impossible as aesthetically Subaru has never built a "nice looking" car Curvy etc...

The point is you isn't be assuming what someone can or cannot afford.

Uh huh. That came from the FT1 forum comment, like he's someone special, you know how many people got that? This forum is filled with many countries, pay grades and races and somehow the OP feels above? Well you guys enjoy your bromance I don't care. Do some searching to the design etc the answer are already out there. I'm not near a PC to waist time on that now.

Yes we all know its Toyota's idea... But its also Subaru's platform and motor. You are acting like the car is 100% Toyota and that just isn't the case.

If you really don't care than please stop trolling and just move on.

Then stop quoting and trolling me and waisting my time and I won't? As I clearly stated already? Wow people need to read before responding..

Never said it was. However if Subaru had not joined in after a 6 month stall period..Tada would have done it without them period. Again already was clear on that.