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Clutch Pedal Travel Stopper (CPTS) Modification
Included in Kit:
1x Threaded Bumper 1x Black-oxide steel washer (0.125 inch thick) 3x Type 316 stainless steel washer (0.05 inch thick) 1x Serrated-Flange nut https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/...18f96d8e_b.jpg Tools Required: 9mm or 11/32in combination wrench (optional) Instructions: 1. Locate the bracket holding the clutch pedal spring assembly and clutch pedal stop. 2. Carefully remove rectangular factory rubber clutch pedal stop by grabbing the sides and pulling out. NOTE: Be careful not to use excessive force as this may damage the thin clutch stop. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3830/...6f0bebe9_b.jpg 3. The hole that the clutch pedal stop mounts to will now be visible, pictured below. https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3741/...14a69248_b.jpg 4. The nut will have to be placed behind the bracket. It may be necessary to depress the clutch pedal to move the spring assembly back. While depressed, place nut behind bracket with 11/32in or 9mm wrench, and slowly release clutch pedal. WARNING: It may pinch fingers, so it is advised to have some help to depress the pedal while installing. 5. Thread bumper with desirable washer configuration. NOTE: It is not advised to use all 4 washers. Recommended configurations: 0 washers 1 thick washer 1 thick and 1 thin washers Up to 3 thin washers NOTE: It is recommended to have no more than 0.18 inches thickness (1 thick and 1 thin washer) to ensure the bumper stud has sufficient amount of threads into the nut. 6. Test to verify that the clutch pedal can be depressed to engage the engine switch. NOTE: If the engine does not start, remove washers to achieve the proper height. NOTE: You will have to adjust the 2 sensors mounted below the dash. The lower sensor that is more easily accessible detects when the clutch is engaged and may need to be adjusted when lowering clutch pedal when the gear display is enabled. The higher sensor, that is more difficult to access detects when the clutch is depressed to enable the engine starter. Both sensors are adjusted with 14mm wrenches. 7. When final height is set, wipe any grease off of the rubber bumper and use rag or towel to grip the rubber stop and tighten using 9mm wrench on nut. 8. Admire your work, and enjoy your CPTS! https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/...7559a965_b.jpg Feel free to message me for more information. |
I got this kit from @JDKane527 and it fits into the bracket perfectly.
It was hard to shift into the gears unless I put extra pressure after the clutch hits the stopper to depress the pedal even more. I had the clutch pedal lowered 3 months ago so that it was either the same height or slightly lower than the brake pedal (don't remember, since I did the adjustment last year as well). I'm not sure if this is the cause of the problem or not. I ended up chopping off about a fifth to a quarter of the bumper and I'm able to shift into gear perfectly now. The shifter is going into all of the gears like before. The rubber is nice and dense inside, so I don't think it'll wear out any faster than when it had the outer layer. http://i.imgur.com/VuUJQ3M.jpg I'll have to get used to the shorter travel, though. Didn't give it enough gas a couple of times when shifting because I'm so used to letting off the clutch half an inch before giving it gas. Now that the bumper is there, I need to give it gas as soon as I let go. It is a lot less tiring to shift now! Since I'm usually pressing the clutch all the way down, I don't need to extend my calf muscles as much anymore. |
Where are you buying this stopper? I'd like to try this out.
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Where to find this rubber stopper. I can't seem to find a stopper that can be tightened. Everywhere I see online just sell the rubber only.
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I just cleaned the hard stop with some acetone and used one of these little buttons. Works perfectly and I have 15 extra. :D
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Seriously though, it works perfectly. Even feels better than the rubber stop. |
Terrible that this OEM rubber stopper is a POS
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My wife puts them on everything so we have a junk drawer half filled with opened packages. ...for the record, I only type "lol" if I actually lol. Good stuff. ;) |
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ELIM5? What's the point of this? (serious)
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It should be noted that this should not be used as a crutch for not being able to feel out the point of engagement. I find that I don't have to touch the stopper for shifting between gears for the way I have it adjusted. Like other "feel" mods, this will change the way the car feels to the driver. Won't make your car any faster around a corner or drop panties. |
I have to admit the felt works.
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Why not just remove the spring and lower the pedal? Removing the spring will allow you to feel the point of engagement much better. Lowering the clutch pedal to slightly above the brake pedal will also reduce throw so that the clutch engages right off the floor. You mentioned you had a lowered pedal, why would you do both?
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Before I used this clutch pedal stopper, I lowered the clutch pedal with the OEM rubber stop to where it engaged slightly above the floor. I found that over time as the clutch fluid boils, the engagement point goes lower to the point where you can damage the clutch since it doesn't fully disengage. Another side effect of this is that you may have to adjust the ignition sensor to even start the car. You may also have to adjust the clutch sensor for your cruise control and gear indicator display to work. If I could do it again, I would not have lowered the pedal and would have just done the stopper. Less things to have to adjust and easy to reverse. |
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How much of a difference did you think the slave cylinder made? Haven't done that, yet, but debated giving it a go. Really like the way the clutch feels now, though. |
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Readjusting the clutch is easy and can be done over and over. Once the oem rubber stop is done, you'll just have the clutch lever hitting the metal. The engagement point was difficult for me to feel with the Exedy stg2 clutch and the spring lever removed. I ordered the slave cylinder and it helped. Everyone that has tried this rubber stopper, which is more than 20, has had improved feel and they had previously tried adjusting the clutch pedal height. Different strokes for different folks. |
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:laughabove: Inspired by this, I looked for other skid feet pads made of rubber that might work better for me: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W9N2S7E/ https://i.imgur.com/qVSO0tC.jpg The bump stop in the 1st post is just too thick. These are square, and a perfect size to cover that square-shaped area. :) Now I just need to dig up some #8 screws out of the tool chest to tighten it down (I bought the ones with 3M tape and no screws). https://i.imgur.com/D2k9TLM.jpg |
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Accidentally hijacked the thread. https://media.tenor.com/images/41567...35f9/tenor.gif |
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The thickness of the bumpstop by itself is at the limit of where you will not have issues with ignition and allows fully depressing the clutch enough for shifts. If you have lowered the clutch pedal height, then you may have to adjust it with the bumpstop. The mounting plate on the car is not threaded, so a nut will be needed to secure your bump stop if you choose to bolt it down. Quote:
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After switching out the clutch slave cylinder to a smaller one, and adjusting my clutch pedal to a more comfortable height (about even/ maybe a smidge lower than the brake), the square bump stop is perfect height for my setup. If I could shorten the clutch stroke even more, the round bump stop would definitely work. |
I like that square bumpstop idea. The round one doesn't last very long. Maybe some metal instead of rubber?
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Metal will clunk.
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It's .. annoying clunk. These are no diesels, one has to use clutch frequently, when rowing through gears on MT. That's annoying clunk often.
BTW, i had this mod with similar round stopper. Relatively thin metal plate of pedal cut through this rubber bumper quickly. 2-3 weeks quickly. Currently i DIY made thinner but much wider (then even base, that stopper is attached to) stopper (made from round furniture anti-skid pad, that can be attached with screw). Longer contact area = will cut through less. And main point of this mod is not so much as to rise clutch bite point, as reducing overly long dead travel till bite point, isn't it? It's simpler to do by adjusting pedal travel (and clutch sensor) imho. |
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Where can I buy the kit?
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You can buy all sorts of bumpers from here:
https://www.mcmaster.com/bumper-cushions However, I still haven't found a durable solution. Maybe I'll cut down some polyurethane? The felt pads and rubber pads on Amazon are too soft imo. |
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As i've mentioned before. Try for bumpstop something of larger & flat area. If area of touch between pedal plate and bumpstop will be few times wider, proportionally it will cut through less/last longer, even if of same material and pushed against with same force / same frequency.
My current "bumpstop", flat furniture leg cushion in ring/washer shape, around 1 1/2 inch in diameter, with hole in mid for screw, lasts for me already for around two years. Used for it screw from "desintegrated" bumpstop mentioned in this thread (as for me it also didn't last long before it got cut through), and sticked above this stopper thin felt. |
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