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Apex_BRZ 03-22-2014 05:14 PM

Paint Quality
 
Anyone else having issues with the paint on their BRZ?

I have a WRB BRZ with 10k miles that I picked up last August. The front bumper and hood are already full of chips past the paint and there is a spot on my rear spoiler on the corner that the paint is simply peeling away for no good reason at all.

The paint on these things is garbage. Super thin, and apparently not much of a clearcoat whatsoever. I have a 2001 Corvette ZO6 as well with 52k miles that has seen the same roads and even track time with hardly any chips in the front at all. The BRZ has just been on simple city roads and highways.

It's incredibly disappointing.

N1rve 03-22-2014 05:22 PM

It's just the nature of how soft the paint is.

If you want to... repaint the front end and clear bra the front bumper, entire hood, mirrors, fenders, and the rear quarter panels.

It's inevitable.

Apex_BRZ 03-22-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 1618573)
It's just the nature of how soft the paint is.

If you want to... repaint the front end and clear bra the front bumper, entire hood, mirrors, fenders, and the rear quarter panels.

It's inevitable.

So Subaru's do have shitty paint and it's not just my car. That's comforting. :D

N1rve 03-22-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ (Post 1618576)
So Subaru's do have shitty paint and it's not just my car. That's comforting. :D

LOL Actually, all cars made within the past 10 years or so... blame the Enivornmental hippies. We have to use water based paint.

My next car will be clear braed before leaving the dealer lot.

jd666 03-22-2014 05:27 PM

+1 on the paint quality. So many polishes and what not. Just to keep the paint intact

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Poodles 03-22-2014 11:02 PM

Keep in mind you're comparing this car to a car that was double the price when it was sold.


Paint chips are very common these days as already said :(

XanRules 03-22-2014 11:04 PM

Yeah, Subaru has always been notorious for garbage paint and the BRZ is no exception.

Burrcold 03-22-2014 11:09 PM

Imperative to clear bra these cars. I've had mine for 16 months now, and not a stone chip in sight (3M film on front bumper, full hood and fenders). I do a ton of highway driving and drive it in the winter.

Apex_BRZ 03-22-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1619169)
Imperative to clear bra these cars. I've had mine for 16 months now, and not a stone chip in sight (3M film on front bumper, full hood and fenders). I do a ton of highway driving and drive it in the winter.

Too late now. Wish I could go back. :iono:

Jegan_V 03-22-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ (Post 1618576)
So Subaru's do have shitty paint and it's not just my car. That's comforting. :D

As everyone said all cars at this point use water based paint, the tough thick lead paints are long gone. I deal with a lot of newer model cars after they've been used and roughly 75% of the cars I check have chipped hoods, roofs and/or front bumpers. The ones that don't are either a lot newer or have been repaired already. Subaru is just one of the earlier automakers to fully go water based, I think it was even from the late 90s that they were going this route.

FiRStsc10n 03-22-2014 11:58 PM

I have 3M clearbra, and still have paint chips after 8 months. Can thank the poor winter road conditions & salt for that.

Euro7R 03-23-2014 12:00 AM

On the same boat with many of you guys. I jacked up my car and placed it on jack stands for oil change. When I took off the jack stands, paint chipped off where the car rests on the jack stands........Speechless!

RRnold 03-23-2014 12:25 AM

It's Subie paint. :thumbdown:

CodyFRS 03-23-2014 12:32 AM

Paint chips? that's nothing. I got rust-like spots forming in spots throughout my body already, yeah they are like half the size of a dime at the moment, but we all know how that works.. Not really sure what these bodies are made of but I didn't expect me to be finding rust spots already. I guess considering where I live, PA, I have to deal with road salt and all, but I still would wash my car weekly to try to keep up with the weather factor... But hell, only a 2 year old car and I am finding rust formations.. Not happy.

I drive a Scion FRS by the way, so its not just Subaru.

suaveflooder 03-23-2014 12:35 AM

Tons of chips here as well. I like driving, not worried. She'll get more ;)


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OmarGC 03-23-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CodyFRS (Post 1619359)
I drive a Scion FRS by the way, so its not just Subaru.

Just so you know... The frs is painted at the same place, with the same materials as the brz. Your paint is 100% Subaru, along with most of your car.

CodyFRS 03-23-2014 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OmarGC (Post 1619392)
Just so you know... The frs is painted at the same place, with the same materials as the brz. Your paint is 100% Subaru, along with most of your car.

Yeah I have noticed my car is subaru haha, when I pop the hood and look at the little machine stamped places throughout the car they are all subaru branded..

TwinturboCamry 03-23-2014 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Euro7R (Post 1619282)
On the same boat with many of you guys. I jacked up my car and placed it on jack stands for oil change. When I took off the jack stands, paint chipped off where the car rests on the jack stands........Speechless!


Dude, you're resting 2600lbs of car on 4 inches worth of metal on metal. What did you expect? It's paint man.

Burrcold 03-23-2014 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinturboCamry (Post 1619469)
Dude, you're resting 2600lbs of car on 4 inches worth of metal on metal. What did you expect? It's paint man.

I want my car to weigh 2600 lbs!!

Euro7R 03-23-2014 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinturboCamry (Post 1619469)
Dude, you're resting 2600lbs of car on 4 inches worth of metal on metal. What did you expect? It's paint man.

It's never happened on my previous car, civic. What gives? Lol

Poodles 03-23-2014 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Euro7R (Post 1619282)
On the same boat with many of you guys. I jacked up my car and placed it on jack stands for oil change. When I took off the jack stands, paint chipped off where the car rests on the jack stands........Speechless!



Normal...


It's why you use these: http://www.harborfreight.com/2-piece...and-95952.html

samisons 03-23-2014 06:14 PM

I've been looking into plasti dipping my car for that same reason.

userjack6880 03-23-2014 06:43 PM

Honestly, unless a chip goes down to the metal, I don't really worry about it. I bought the car mostly because it's a joy to drive, paint be damned. If I had a show-car, maybe.

When the paint starts to look bad, I'll have a good body buy in town repaint the car. Maybe even go with a different color (though, I do like the Raven a lot).

Clembo 03-24-2014 06:40 AM

It's not just Subaru - Toyota paint sucks too for chips. I notice it's become worse in the last 4 or 5 years even though it's all been water-based for quite a while now. I just think they are using thinner coats to save weight (and cost). Don't laugh about the weight, I was amazed how much it adds to the weight of the car. And every ounce they can save gives them better mileage numbers.


Here's some info from SEMA on paint today...


http://www.sema.org/sema-enews/2012/...-auto-industry.

KPR10 03-24-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CodyFRS (Post 1619359)
Paint chips? that's nothing. I got rust-like spots forming in spots throughout my body already, yeah they are like half the size of a dime at the moment, but we all know how that works.. Not really sure what these bodies are made of but I didn't expect me to be finding rust spots already. I guess considering where I live, PA, I have to deal with road salt and all, but I still would wash my car weekly to try to keep up with the weather factor... But hell, only a 2 year old car and I am finding rust formations.. Not happy.

I drive a Scion FRS by the way, so its not just Subaru.

Any pictures of these rust spots? I have had cars last more than 8 years of winter driving (lots of salt) without rust showing up on the body. Crazy to think that you are already having this problem after 2 years.

In regards to paint chips, I have a touch-up paint pen from the dealer and it has been put to good use for this car. It is really tricky to apply tho, because you can easily smear way too much paint or clear coat and make it look bad.

Deadspool 03-24-2014 08:31 AM

My BRZ has 20,000 kms, its COVERED in rock chips. The paint is so weak.

Im vinyl wrapping. Fuck it.

CodyFRS 03-24-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 1621572)

Im vinyl wrapping. Fuck it.

I was highly considering this, but not sure what it costs to get the entire car done. You have any idea?

Deadspool 03-24-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CodyFRS (Post 1622029)
I was highly considering this, but not sure what it costs to get the entire car done. You have any idea?


With my contacts, I was able to secure the materials for $600, and the labor is free.

I think the average job costs somewhere in the 2k to 2500 margin.

enivid 03-24-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1619489)

That's what I use and some paint still came off lol

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DoomsdayJesus 03-25-2014 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodyFRS (Post 1619359)
Paint chips? that's nothing. I got rust-like spots forming in spots throughout my body already, yeah they are like half the size of a dime at the moment, but we all know how that works.. Not really sure what these bodies are made of but I didn't expect me to be finding rust spots already. I guess considering where I live, PA, I have to deal with road salt and all, but I still would wash my car weekly to try to keep up with the weather factor... But hell, only a 2 year old car and I am finding rust formations.. Not happy.

I drive a Scion FRS by the way, so its not just Subaru.

Check out the corrosion warranty, that may be covered.

CodyFRS 03-25-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus (Post 1625509)
Check out the corrosion warranty, that may be covered.

Knowing Toyota/Subaru they'll say my car is "heavyily modified" so they won't cover rust spots.. :mad0259:

But yeah, I will have to check in on this.

DoomsdayJesus 03-26-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CodyFRS (Post 1626078)
Knowing Toyota/Subaru they'll say my car is "heavyily modified" so they won't cover rust spots.. :mad0259:

But yeah, I will have to check in on this.

Corrosion warranties are pretty bulletproof.

AtlasMick 03-26-2014 02:20 PM

Gnats cause irreversible damage to my bumper.

CodyFRS 03-26-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus (Post 1627531)
Corrosion warranties are pretty bulletproof.

It was a joke ;)


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