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chenshuo 03-12-2014 01:45 PM

where to get wheel + tire for under $1800 in GTA?
 
I have my heart set on Enkei T6S 18x8, but i'm open to any summer tire brands. What's a reasonable quality tire that's cheap? in GTA...

7thgear 03-12-2014 01:58 PM

keep in mind that tire price should be budgeted over seasons


the Yokohamas i'm gonna buy for this summer arn't gonna cost any more or less than a basic all-season, but they will be toast by September, whereas the regular tire (hell, even the OEM primacy) will last 4 or 5 summers depending on use.


So if your not going to hit the track at all this summer or otherwise, then don't be afraid bumping your tire budget up for a quality summer tire that will last you for a long time.

krayzie 03-12-2014 02:18 PM

Why don't you call Tire23 or Wheels Direct and see what they can offer you. Sometimes there are factory rebates, other times some tires go on sale for much less than typical pricing depending on stock level / availability. Just know what tire specs you are going with so they can give you a quote readily from the computer.

How much do those rims typically go for anyway? Hard to give you suggestions when we don't know what your tire budget is.

1Cor10:23 03-12-2014 04:39 PM

Personally, I have had very many good experiences with simply tire. Hitup @Zook@SimplyTire for a quote. I'm not being paid to do this, just a very satisfied customer through the years.

trackclub 03-12-2014 05:20 PM

try www.2koolperformance.com a Canadian online shop with very good prices.

wparsons 03-13-2014 08:01 AM

Contact Samson at gbtires.ca, his prices were very reasonable for me.

chenshuo 03-13-2014 12:23 PM

I contacted Tires23 and Simply Tire, the quote they gave me for the rim is higher than another smaller shop. With regard to tire, I want as cheap as possible, but i donno if i should get the cheapest tire?

drewbot 03-13-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1595852)
Contact Samson at gbtires.ca, his prices were very reasonable for me.

Yeah they were beating out all my other quotes for OZ's, however, based on cash only.

krayzie 03-13-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1596361)
I contacted Tires23 and Simply Tire, the quote they gave me for the rim is higher than another smaller shop. With regard to tire, I want as cheap as possible, but i donno if i should get the cheapest tire?

I think the cheapest summer tire is called General UHP. The treat pattern looks very all season tho. I think Conti makes General Tires.

The generally affordable good summer tire is Yokohama S-Drive, but I didn't like them in the wets. Falken FK452 is also another generally affordable model.

I wonder if it's a little cheaper with Toyota recommended stagger setup: 215/40/R18 front and 225/40/R18 rear (but they are recommending Dunlop Direzza Z2). STI recommends square setup 225/40/R18 at all four corners with Michelin PSS.

Goodyear/Dunlop tends to get really loud after only 10k and not very strong sidewalls but amazing at shedding water (I've had SP-Sport 01).

Wheels Direct told me Michelin is generally king with good compounds these days.

DR 86 03-13-2014 06:05 PM

Michelin PSS is king in wet and dry performance. I really don't get people who cheap out on tires; they are the single most important component in terms of dollars to performance increase, not to mention most important to safety.

Funktional 03-13-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DR 86 (Post 1597409)
Michelin PSS is king in wet and dry performance. I really don't get people who cheap out on tires; they are the single most important component in terms of dollars to performance increase, not to mention most important to safety.

In my opinion, nothing beats the PSS in terms of wet/dry performance, comfort and durability. Tires are such an important aspect when it comes to performance and safety and as such, you get what you pay for.

Spend the money on a decent set of tires.......

chenshuo 03-13-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR 86 (Post 1597409)
Michelin PSS is king in wet and dry performance. I really don't get people who cheap out on tires; they are the single most important component in terms of dollars to performance increase, not to mention most important to safety.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funktional (Post 1597429)
In my opinion, nothing beats the PSS in terms of wet/dry performance, comfort and durability. Tires are such an important aspect when it comes to performance and safety and as such, you get what you pay for.

Spend the money on a decent set of tires.......

is the PSS significantly more expensive than say... Falken?

Funktional 03-13-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1597869)
is the PSS significantly more expensive than say... Falken?

Yeah, based on the "equivalent" tire from Falken, expect to pay about $50 more per tire for the Michelin. I've tried so many different brands of tires in the roughly 20 years I've owned cars. One thing I've learned is get the best tires you can for your money. Every person is different though and tires are an extremely subjective subject area. I just find that cheaper tires tend to wear horribly, typically require more weight to be balanced and usually suffer significantly in one or more performance categories. The PSS seems to do everything really well.

laksman91 03-13-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DR 86 (Post 1597409)
Michelin PSS is king in wet and dry performance. I really don't get people who cheap out on tires; they are the single most important component in terms of dollars to performance increase, not to mention most important to safety.

I agree, hands down the PSS is the best all around tire for an enthusiast. Great wear with great grip.

krayzie 03-13-2014 09:36 PM

18" PSS will be over $1000 for sure (for example 215/45/R17 PSS is already almost $1000 installed locally). So I'm not sure how you are going to get really good tires + those Enkei rims for under $1800. I'm running PSAS3 just because I wanted all seasons for low temperature weather driving but they are for sure a bit cheaper than PSS.

chenshuo 03-14-2014 05:34 PM

I think i'm going with the Advan RS rims, saves me a lot compare to the Enkei t6s. This way i can put in more money for good tires.

7thgear 03-14-2014 05:39 PM

remember, you depreciate the upfront cost over x-years


makes it easier to swallow


cuz if you buy a shitty tire now, you'll pay more down the road, much more (tire mounting alone would eat a bill or so), not to mention time out of your day, etc etc.

krayzie 03-14-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1600303)
I think i'm going with the Advan RS rims, saves me a lot compare to the Enkei t6s. This way i can put in more money for good tires.

Wait isn't Advan RS like $800 bucks a wheel? :iono:

chenshuo 03-16-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1600343)
Wait isn't Advan RS like $800 bucks a wheel? :iono:

Replica.

I since then changed my mind. This shop got some replica XXR and they said they r really high quality.

laksman91 03-16-2014 01:19 PM

I've heard of a couple local guys cracking XXRs. So I'm not sure if I would rank it as really high quality

kickz 03-16-2014 01:51 PM

contact alpha motorsports they bring in tons of pilotsports and they have the best pricing

chenshuo 03-16-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by laksman91 (Post 1603498)
I've heard of a couple local guys cracking XXRs. So I'm not sure if I would rank it as really high quality

Yea the guy told me the replica XXR is better quality than the OEM XXR. I take it with a grain of salt though. Do you think replica XXR are descent? I don't intend to track it. It's my summer rim daily drive.

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Originally Posted by kickz (Post 1603554)
contact alpha motorsports they bring in tons of pilotsports and they have the best pricing

For the Enkei t6s they have the best pricing. Not sure about XXR. i haven't contacted them about replica XXR. The only problem is they only open monday to friday and they close pretty early.

congee 03-16-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1603722)
Yea the guy told me the replica XXR is better quality than the OEM XXR. I take it with a grain of salt though. Do you think replica XXR are descent? I don't intend to track it. It's my summer rim daily drive.



For the Enkei t6s they have the best pricing. Not sure about XXR. i haven't contacted them about replica XXR. The only problem is they only open monday to friday and they close pretty early.

Wait, aren't XXR already really cheap? They have replicas?!?!

chenshuo 03-16-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by congee (Post 1603815)
Wait, aren't XXR already really cheap? They have replicas?!?!

i was quoted $850 for the XXR replicas. How much should real XXR cost?

drewbot 03-16-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1603829)
i was quoted $850 for the XXR replicas. How much should real XXR cost?

Not sure what model and size you're looking for, but simply tire was having a preorder special at $640 up for actual XXR

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chenshuo 03-16-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1603837)
Not sure what model and size you're looking for, but simply tire was having a preorder special at $640 up for actual XXR

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i'm looking for 18x8 or 18x8.5 with 40offset, gold color.

drewbot 03-16-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1603844)
i'm looking for 18x8 or 18x8.5 with 40offset, gold color.

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ572658438

krayzie 03-16-2014 07:06 PM

Okay I'm not a hater but once you guys are recommending the OP to get ultra high performance tires like Michelin Pilot Super Sports, he now has to balance his budget by going with Made in China knock-off wheels with questionable quality and durability (in terms of spirited driving and how bad our roads are), when compare to even his stock OEM rims that are Made in Japan (I took mine off to verify). That's not a very sound solution either.

DR 86 03-16-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1604060)
Okay I'm not a hater but once you guys are recommending the OP to get ultra high performance tires like Michelin Pilot Super Sports, he now has to balance his budget by going with Made in China knock-off wheels with questionable quality and durability (in terms of spirited driving and how bad our roads are), when compare to even his stock OEM rims that are Made in Japan (I took mine off to verify). That's not a very sound solution either.

Tires are still the priority over wheels. Even with replica wheels, breakage is not a common occurrence. Use some sense and avoid potholes. Obviously, in an ideal world he'd mount those PSSs on forged wheels, but if he can't afford it, it's still better to spend more on the tires that will net him better grip, better treadwear, and better safety in the wet. Difference between a set of high end tires and a set of junk will only be a few hundred dollars, whereas difference between good wheels and reps may be $1-2K. The appreciable difference in performance per dollar difference will be much greater with the tires.

kickz 03-22-2014 08:29 PM

sorry alphamotorsports doesnt sell XXR or any replica rims they have a very strict no replica rims only baller rims

but XXR probably best look for the price

chenshuo 03-23-2014 12:55 AM

i've decided not to get the XXR. i went with Enkei instead. However, i'm still deciding on tires. Which of the following is descent quality and have low noise?

Falken Azenis PT722 92W
Kumho Ecsta 4X KU22 92W
Hankook Ventus V2 Concept2 92W XL
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport 92W XL
General G-Max AS03 92W XL

FLYFISHR 03-23-2014 01:41 AM

Not sure if this will help but PMC Tire has ratings on all the tires that they carry and that is how I narrowed down the tires that are on my short list.

krayzie 03-23-2014 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1619408)
i've decided not to get the XXR. i went with Enkei instead. However, i'm still deciding on tires. Which of the following is descent quality and have low noise?

Falken Azenis PT722 92W
Kumho Ecsta 4X KU22 92W
Hankook Ventus V2 Concept2 92W XL
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport 92W XL
General G-Max AS03 92W XL

I usually go with what the store recommends me as the best one that I can afford for my set of criteria, then I run them for a bit and go read the reviews off tirerack and they are generally spot on. Have some characteristics you are looking for in mind and research from there, or ask the dude at the tire shop cuz they get real world customer feedback on the diff. tires they sell.

I took a quick look at the pictures of the different tires listed, I'm really liking the tread pattern off the Bridgestones. The others look very all season-ish (nothing wrong with that btw I'm running all-seasons myself lol).

Funktional 03-23-2014 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1619710)
I usually go with what the store recommends me as the best one that I can afford for my set of criteria, then I run them for a bit and go read the reviews off tirerack and they are generally spot on. Have some characteristics you are looking for in mind and research from there, or ask the dude at the tire shop cuz they get real world customer feedback on the diff. tires they sell.

I took a quick look at the pictures of the different tires listed, I'm really liking the tread pattern off the Bridgestones. The others look very all season-ish (nothing wrong with that btw I'm running all-seasons myself lol).

Honestly, judging a tire by the look of the tread pattern is not a great idea. It's all about how it works in conjunction with the handling characteristics of the vehicle. In my opinion, the Michelin Pilot Super Sports have one of the least aggressive tread patterns and while they may be asymmetrical, they're not directional so they can be rotated properly for extra life and better tire wear. They also handle very well, better than some tires with super agrressive looking tread patterns.

krayzie 03-23-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Funktional (Post 1619720)
Honestly, judging a tire by the look of the tread pattern is not a great idea. It's all about how it works in conjunction with the handling characteristics of the vehicle. In my opinion, the Michelin Pilot Super Sports have one of the least aggressive tread patterns and while they may be asymmetrical, they're not directional so they can be rotated properly for extra life and better tire wear. They also handle very well, better than some tires with super agrressive looking tread patterns.

Dude I'm running Pilot Sport A/S 3 which is based on the design of the Pilot Super Sport (the features you typed there). All you guys keep pushing him to buy PSS when I don't think he can afford PSS with his budget. I told him to read reviews off tirerack and ask the shop for feedback. I wasn't judging the tires he listed purely by looks I was just making a comment on the looks of the tread pattern when I have no experience with those tires, nor do I have time to read all of the reviews for him.

The OP never outlined all of his criteria when choosing a tire to begin with anyway (he only said good quality and low noise, cost within budget being a factor). I already said for low noise stay away from Goodyear and Dunlop. For example, if he is concerned with tire longevity and it's a daily driver and he doesn't track the car, I would recommend him Pilot Sport A/S 3 instead of Pilot Super Sport because of longer tread life and better lower temperature grip. I'm surprised no Michelin fanboy recommended Pilot Sport Cup yet.

The funniest comment is about how the OP should be buying XXR with PSS instead, so risking the rim that might crack and fail is safer because you have really good grip. ROFL! But what do I know I'm not Suberman.

Funktional 03-23-2014 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1619753)
Dude I'm running Pilot Sport A/S 3 which is based on the design of the Pilot Super Sport (the features you typed there). All you guys keep pushing him to buy PSS when I don't think he can afford PSS with his budget. I told him to read reviews off tirerack and ask the shop for feedback. I wasn't judging the tires he listed purely by looks I was just making a comment on the looks of the tread pattern when I have no experience with those tires, nor do I have time to read all of the reviews for him.

The OP never outlined all of his criteria when choosing a tire to begin with anyway (he only said good quality and low noise, cost within budget being a factor). I already said for low noise stay away from Goodyear and Dunlop. For example, if he is concerned with tire longevity and it's a daily driver and he doesn't track the car, I would recommend him Pilot Sport A/S 3 instead of Pilot Super Sport because of longer tread life and better lower temperature grip. I'm surprised no Michelin fanboy recommended Pilot Sport Cup yet.

The funniest comment is about how the OP should be buying XXR with PSS instead, so risking the rim that might crack and fail is safer because you have really good grip. ROFL! But what do I know I'm not Suberman.

Nowhere in my last post did I push the PSS.....I was just using them as an example in reference to your tread comments. The only reason I suggested them to begin with is because chances are they will last a lot longer than any off brand "performance" tire (ie. Nankang.....Falken.....) due to their higher treadwear rating and the fact that they can be properly rotated. They will also certainly fit within the good quality low noise criteria. As I mentioned, cheap tires wear terribly and these cars aren't exactly Lexus quiet to begin with so shit tires will just compound the issue.

Honestly, your cracked XXR rim running on PSS is a little extreme. I've personally run PSS on shitty gravity cast chinese wheels without issue. They're not exactly 100 treadwear grade race tires....

Not sure why you're getting so defensive about my post, I merely pointed out some important information regarding tread pattern since a lot of less knowledgeable auto enthusiasts seem to place importance on the way the tread looks. Your post was a little confusing if that's not what you intended to say......


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