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Siriusly.Andrew 05-26-2010 02:42 PM

Hyundai Veloster
 
Quote:

Following the successful launch of the rear-wheel drive Genesis Coupe, Hyundai is now focusing on the development of a front-wheel drive replacement for the Tiburon sports coupe which is known simply as the Coupe in Europe and other markets. In an interview with Inside Line, Hyundai Motor America's CEO John Krafcik revealed some juicy new details on the forthcoming small coupe which he claimed will look 70-80 per cent like the Veloster Concept that was unwrapped at the 2007 L.A. Show.

Krafcik said that the production version of the Veloster, which by the way, is among the names being considered for the new model, will pack a surprise bodystyle feature never seen before in the category. "It might be doors or a unique roof or something with the hatch. But it won't be like anything out there before in the small car segment."

In terms of size, Krafcik mentioned that the Tiburon's successor will be quite compact. "It's Accent-sized. Think of it like a 4-passenger Honda CRX," he said. "It'll be a little car you can take out and ring its neck and still get good mileage. Fun and economical, with a great power to weight ratio."

In a previous interview back in March, the American CEO had revealed that the Veloster would be offered with a 1.6-liter 4-cylinder petrol engine. This time Krafcik went into more details. "It'll be powered by a 1.6-liter four cylinder with Direct Injection making 140 hp. And it'll get over 40 mpg US (5.8lt/100km or 48mpg UK)," he told IL.

We're guessing that in other markets such as Europe and South Korea Hyundai will most likely offer the Veloster with diesel engines also, maybe even with the Korean firm's new 184HP 2.0-liter oil-burner that is available on the 2010 facelifted Santa Fe.

"There's just nothing out there right now with that kind of Eco-sport positioning" said Krafcik adding that the Veloster will arrive at Hyundai's dealerships before the end of 2011.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/07...pe-coming.html

more companies are treking into FT-86 territory. Toyota better do something fast, or the first concept to light the fires is going to be the last to launch.

ichitaka05 05-26-2010 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew (Post 15251)
more companies are treking into FT-86 territory. Toyota better do something fast, or the first concept to light the fires is going to be the last to launch.

I totally agree. Toyota better do or update quickly or they gonna loose all the light weight sports car fans...

RWDJunkie 05-27-2010 06:17 PM

This is getting really frustrating. The FT-86 is the first 2+2 I've even remotely considered owning. But lack of news on the FT-86 and an approaching rise in fwd coupes is really turning me off. I'm starting to lean towards the Genesis coupe. :(

mrtodd 05-29-2010 07:32 PM

I don't know about you guys, but i really am taking an interest with the veloster.

1.6 liters, lightweight hatch, direct injection... Sounds like an excellent aftermarket turbo candidate.

ichitaka05 05-29-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtodd (Post 15315)
I don't know about you guys, but i really am taking an interest with the veloster.

1.6 liters, lightweight hatch, direct injection... Sounds like an excellent aftermarket turbo candidate.

Now question is the price tag

EyeZer0 05-30-2010 01:30 PM

It's already been practically confirmed the Veloster will get a Turbo and a Dual Clutch Six Auto a little bit after the base model gets released in a similar pattern to where the Sonata was released and the Sonata Turbo and Hybrid will be released soon. Reports so far that this is a FWD vehicle for now(only because this car will sit on an Accent platform which is only FWD) but they have been caught doing a lot of testing in the Artic Circle so a AWD might be feasible and bring a rally style hot hatch to the Hyundai lineup. The main competitors pinned for Hyundai as the cars it wants to beat is the CR-Z/CR-X (in terms of making a more fuel efficient car that is lightweight but still fun) and the tC in drawing in an even younger crowd then what the Genesis Coupe draws in. Prices probably will be 15k for the base and somewhere below 22k for the Turbo as it will slot in below the Genesis Coupe base 2.0T which is around 23k.

If I were to get a hot hatch this would definitely be it.
2+2 Seating/3+1 Door Style Hatch(The +1 is a smaller passenger door only on the passenger side also is the unique body style mentioned in the original article)
Base 1.6 DI 138 HP 40MPG Freeway
Turbo 1.6 DI 180-200 HP (Rumored)
Weight will probably be around 2400 lbs as the current Hyundai Accent weighs about 2500 lbs. Weight reduction for the new Sonata was around there as well.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/26/s...-off-interior/

Best look we have of it so far in the love it/hate it Limerock Green. Also the camoflague makes it look really square and bulky but Hyundai's new universal design dictates that it will have a lot of creases to make it seem flowing also have a lower coefficient of drag probably around .28

Siriusly.Andrew 05-31-2010 02:12 AM

My only qualm with this car is FWD. AWD sounds pretty cool, and a 200hp 1.6l turbo wouldn't be to bad imo. It couldn't be to much bigger than my old Rio, and weight around 2500 would be nice too. My 2004 Kia Rio weighed in at 2160lbs or so, at the scale with a nearly empty tank.

I know Hyundai has received a lot of flak in the past for "cheap cars being cheap" but I've always found that their "cheap" cars aren't cheap, just inexpensive. Reliable to the point of any car, if you drive it like an old Ford Tempo (you must have had friends with one, who always drove it with the pedal to the floor to make it move) something is bound to break at some point. Fortunately they are inexpensive to repair as well. At least with my experience with my Kia (I know, different companies... same shit different pile, think Chevy vs GMC).

As much as I'd love to drive a new Toyota 86, If they can't keep the car near original specs and price, I might have to pass, despite my "do want" feelings / tendencies.

mrtodd 06-05-2010 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyeZer0 (Post 15321)
If I were to get a hot hatch this would definitely be it.

Well said. You and me both, it seems.

Factory boosted makes all my own potential mods even cheaper and easier to perform. And the price tag? Amazing! This thing seems much further along than the FT, at the moment. That being said, I may pick this up for my replacement FWD project hatchy, then see how the production version of the FT86 looks afterwords... Hmm... :iono:

For me, all that's left to be seen is if it shares that horrid torsion beam suspension of the Accent. If that's the case, then, well, it's a no go for me.

EyeZer0 06-08-2010 05:51 PM

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/250263/

Veloster is now being poised as a VW Scirocco competitor in Europe where they have even done retooling to get the double doors on the proper RHD side for passengers in the UK. Also production debut should be in Paris in September. This all equals to me a person who loves the Scirocco design and wished they brought it here to the states a big plus and hopefully the styling is equal or greater to the Scirocco.

TrackMonk 03-12-2011 06:02 PM

Hyundai Veloster
 
Saw the photos of the Veloster today. Its a front wheel driver but to me looks like a cross between the new Audi A1 and a Mazdaspeed 3. Might be another cheap fun car.

Found some pics of the production Veloster here http://www.apextuner.com

Mr.Jay 03-12-2011 09:29 PM

This is a fourm for those who are wanting/wainting for the ft86

go away

xantonin 03-12-2011 10:10 PM

Well to be fair, this is the "Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions" forum.

But on that note, I'm not impressed by the Veloster in any way.

Mr.Jay 03-12-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 29509)
Well to be fair, this is the "Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions" forum.

But on that note, I'm not impressed by the Veloster in any way.


lol I totally missed that my bad sorry for the rude post then

totally thought OP was a bot or one of those people who advertise their own shit for no reason

Niche79 03-26-2011 05:08 PM

The front and side isnt bad, but the back end is ugly, needs to be touched up and smoothed out some. Just too many curves etc.

70NYD 03-26-2011 09:50 PM

Does anyone notice that most hyundais look like a cross between something and something? Kind of like what gta did to not have to pay royalties :p

82mm 4g63 08-21-2011 09:24 PM

Hyundai Veloster Turbo
 
208hp 1.6l GDI i4 in a 2600# package...If only it was RWD or AWD.

:mad0259:

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...turbo-f34-.jpg

EJ20 08-21-2011 10:33 PM

I really like what hyundai is doing since 2008 :D

But yah, they should make an awd version of the veloster.

MiguelAE86 08-21-2011 10:53 PM

Hopefully this will make Honda put some pants on and do the CR-Z the right way! *fingers crossed*
BTW, is that a hole in the hood? Those lines are screwing with me o.O

celicajim 08-22-2011 01:57 AM

I saw the concept? at the Melbourne Motorshow. I saw the 2 doors on one side and thought oh I thought it was going to be a 2 door? Then walking back past from the other direction I saw that it only had one door on the other side!
It was a 3 door (Not including the hatch).

Enzie 08-22-2011 05:51 PM

I almost got a chance to test drive one of the few JD Power and Associates are using for R&D (The regular one, not the turbo or anything fancy), but they chose 5 other people and i wasn't included.. I made it to the final few applicants but i guess they didnt go with me because i'm only 19 xD

tranzformer 08-22-2011 06:17 PM

Yes if only AWD or RWD.

Mr.Jay 08-22-2011 06:24 PM

the whole 3 door thing is a bit weird but they the weight savings must of been good for that

awd/rwd would make this a contender

EyeZer0 08-22-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 55895)
the whole 3 door thing is a bit weird but they the weight savings must of been good for that

awd/rwd would make this a contender

I wish WRC would make Manufacturer's offer similar versions to their WRC cars if they want to compete. For the US the closest we get is an AWD Mini Cooper Countryman. Ford is never going to offer AWD with their Fiesta and Hyundai so far has no plans for AWD in the Veloster.

aloretoc 08-22-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 55812)
Hopefully this will make Honda put some pants on and do the CR-Z the right way! *fingers crossed*
BTW, is that a hole in the hood? Those lines are screwing with me o.O

This is probably what you are talking about, but not probably what you would want to drive... :barf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rvM...e_gdata_player

Neutral_Eyes 08-22-2011 08:00 PM

Next to the ND Miata, this is my highest priority cross-shop for the FT-86. This goes the opposite direction from a performance car, but it seems to be quirky and fun enough to consider. I think that says a lot for Hyundai. FWD and a glass roof aren't going to please any purists, but I think it does a lot of things right. Only the test drive will tell for sure.

aloretoc 08-22-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63 (Post 55807)
208hp 1.6l GDI i4 in a 2600# package...If only it was RWD or AWD.

:mad0259:

This seems to be the video of a test drive of the veloster...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU5Dr...e_gdata_player

If you look at the video you can see that it goes from 0 to 60 mph (0 to 100 kmh in the video) in 9 sec... I don't think that thing has 208 hp it looks more like 160 ish.

What do you guys think?

aloretoc 08-22-2011 08:28 PM

information from hyundai's website

Displacement(Liter) 1.6
Horsepower @ rpm (estimated) 138 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque @ rpm (estimated) 123 lb.-ft. @ 4,850 rpm(Maximum)
Valve train 4-cylinder engine with Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (D-CVVT)

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2...fications.aspx

bofa 08-22-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloretoc (Post 55904)
information from hyundai's website

Displacement(Liter) 1.6
Horsepower @ rpm (estimated) 138 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque @ rpm (estimated) 123 lb.-ft. @ 4,850 rpm(Maximum)
Valve train 4-cylinder engine with Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (D-CVVT)

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2...fications.aspx

That's the N/A version. I believe the Turbo version is targeted for later in 2012 as a 2013 model.

tranzformer 08-22-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloretoc (Post 55902)
This seems to be the video of a test drive of the veloster...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU5Dr...e_gdata_player

If you look at the video you can see that it goes from 0 to 60 mph (0 to 100 kmh in the video) in 9 sec... I don't think that thing has 208 hp it looks more like 160 ish.

What do you guys think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloretoc (Post 55904)
information from hyundai's website

Displacement(Liter) 1.6
Horsepower @ rpm (estimated) 138 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque @ rpm (estimated) 123 lb.-ft. @ 4,850 rpm(Maximum)
Valve train 4-cylinder engine with Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (D-CVVT)

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2...fications.aspx



That is not the turbo version info.

Neutral_Eyes 08-22-2011 08:41 PM

http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00359225_l.jpg

Here you can see that the mule or whatever you want to call it is using a turbocharged engine.

Edit: funny video!

[u2b]MtVIUPscC9A[/u2b]

aloretoc 08-22-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 55906)
That is not the turbo version info.

If the one in the video is the turbo version. It is still too slow for 208 hp and 2600 pounds.

Neutral_Eyes 08-22-2011 09:03 PM

That video of the acceleration definitely looks like the standard 138hp with the DCT.

82mm 4g63 08-22-2011 09:36 PM

The turbocharged version is further off than the FRS, they don't have cockpit test drive videos yet.

Allch Chcar 08-23-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 55901)
Next to the ND Miata, this is my highest priority cross-shop for the FT-86. This goes the opposite direction from a performance car, but it seems to be quirky and fun enough to consider. I think that says a lot for Hyundai. FWD and a glass roof aren't going to please any purists, but I think it does a lot of things right. Only the test drive will tell for sure.

It certainly does a lot of things better than the other subcompacts, good power, 6spd, decent body design. Although it is within 50lbs of the CR-Z base model.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloretoc (Post 55904)
information from hyundai's website

Displacement(Liter) 1.6
Horsepower @ rpm (estimated) 138 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque @ rpm (estimated) 123 lb.-ft. @ 4,850 rpm(Maximum)
Valve train 4-cylinder engine with Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (D-CVVT)

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2...fications.aspx

Respectable for the size to be sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloretoc (Post 55902)
This seems to be the video of a test drive of the veloster...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU5Dr...e_gdata_player

If you look at the video you can see that it goes from 0 to 60 mph (0 to 100 kmh in the video) in 9 sec... I don't think that thing has 208 hp it looks more like 160 ish.

What do you guys think?

The engine sounds good to me. Obviously the straight line performance isn't great but the turbo model will improve that. I would like to test drive it to decide if I like the performance.

1660 08-24-2011 07:50 PM

Hyundai has priced the Veloster
 
$17,300 to $18,550.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/hyundai-veloster.html

"Veloster pricing will start at $17,300 for the six-speed model while the dual clutch version will carry a base price of $18,550. Both prices do not include a $760 destination charge.

Two option packages, both priced at $2,000, will be available on the 2012 Veloster. The Style Package upgrades the Veloster’s look and overall appeal with added features like 18-inch wheels, fog lights a a premium audio system. The Tech Package, which is only available in tandem with the Style Package, includes unique 18-inch wheels, automatic headlights and a navigation system."

dookie11 09-27-2011 07:20 PM

Test drove the Veloster at this weekend's OC Auto Show in Anaheim. It's smooth, zippy, and has higher quality interior materials than any Scion. Back seat had plenty of space, and there's no shitty hump in the floor for your passengers to climb over. The 3rd door is pretty cool, and is ample enough for an adult who is shorter than 6ft. Trunk space is decent enough to fit groceries. The ride height is pretty nice for stock (it looks like a lowered car). The panoramic sunroof is really nice, because it's actually a roof, as opposed to a flimsy flip floppy piece of leather that you pull back. You actually press a button and the roof slides back, like in my Honda Prelude. The glass itself goes pretty far back too, so it's great for evening drives. The front doors have funny handles that are really useful for closing your door. Also, near your kneecaps is a handle, as opposed to what we're used to (the handle that you'd have to raise your arm to grasp.) The Style Package is the best bang for buck. Noone really needs backup cams/navigation/auto headlights/etc.

**This car is definitely my alternative to the FT/FRS/BRZ because the Scion lady said that it'll be around $25k + $2000 for tax/title/license/etc., which is too much for me. The Veloster will come out to be around 22ish OTD, I think.

Pretty cool car, for a Hyundai. They're stepping up their game, cuz all the cars I saw at the show (Sonata, Elantra, Genesis R Spec, and even the Tuscon looked really cool). Unlike the American car companies, Hyundai is copying the right designs lol.

madfast 09-27-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dookie11 (Post 61649)
Test drove the Veloster at this weekend's OC Auto Show in Anaheim. It's smooth, zippy, and has higher quality interior materials than any Scion. Back seat had plenty of space, and there's no shitty hump in the floor for your passengers to climb over. The 3rd door is pretty cool, and is ample enough for an adult who is shorter than 6ft. Trunk space is decent enough to fit groceries. The ride height is pretty nice for stock (it looks like a lowered car). The panoramic sunroof is really nice, because it's actually a roof, as opposed to a flimsy flip floppy piece of leather that you pull back. You actually press a button and the roof slides back, like in my Honda Prelude. The glass itself goes pretty far back too, so it's great for evening drives. The front doors have funny handles that are really useful for closing your door. Also, near your kneecaps is a handle, as opposed to what we're used to (the handle that you'd have to raise your arm to grasp.) The Style Package is the best bang for buck. Noone really needs backup cams/navigation/auto headlights/etc.

**This car is definitely my alternative to the FT/FRS/BRZ because the Scion lady said that it'll be around $25k + $2000 for tax/title/license/etc., which is too much for me. The Veloster will come out to be around 22ish OTD, I think.

Pretty cool car, for a Hyundai. They're stepping up their game, cuz all the cars I saw at the show (Sonata, Elantra, Genesis R Spec, and even the Tuscon looked really cool). Unlike the American car companies, Hyundai is copying the right designs lol.

when i sat in the back i thought it was cramped. and the 3rd door is kinda small too. the worst part of the car is the stupid rear window. like the CR-Z its split and i cant imagine how annoying it would be to live with... that said, i cant wait to see what the turbo version will be like!

n2oinferno 09-27-2011 11:00 PM

Test drove one today. It was slow, of course, but the handling felt really good and there was plenty of feedback through the steering wheel. I liked it better than the CR-Z I test drove.

I didn't sit in the back seat. I should have tried, since I'm 6'3" and that would've been a good test to see how much room there is, but my two friends who are both under 6' fit back there just fine.

When the turbo model hits, it'll probably be at the top of my list if I go for a FWD car.

dookie11 09-28-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madfast (Post 61652)
when i sat in the back i thought it was cramped. and the 3rd door is kinda small too. the worst part of the car is the stupid rear window. like the CR-Z its split and i cant imagine how annoying it would be to live with... that said, i cant wait to see what the turbo version will be like!

Yah, I do agree that there are LOTS of blindspots...I'm used to looking to my sides when changing lanes, so that might be a problem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 61679)
Test drove one today. It was slow, of course, but the handling felt really good and there was plenty of feedback through the steering wheel. I liked it better than the CR-Z I test drove.

I didn't sit in the back seat. I should have tried, since I'm 6'3" and that would've been a good test to see how much room there is, but my two friends who are both under 6' fit back there just fine.

When the turbo model hits, it'll probably be at the top of my list if I go for a FWD car.

How much more do you think the turbo one will cost?

Neutral_Eyes 09-28-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dookie11 (Post 61753)
How much more do you think the turbo one will cost?

I would think they'd have to undercut the GTI/Cooper S by a bit, maybe $21k and change to start.


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