Credit for Stock Tires?
 

I emailed my dealer asking for options to replace the stock tires before I pick up the new car. Any idea how much credit off the new tires they should give me since they get to keep the original stock tires?

Are there certain tires that most Toyota/Scion dealerships normally have on hand that are good options to replace the originals?

I'm not looking to go drifting or take it to the track, but if there is an empty parking lot every now and then, I might try to slide it around for a minute just for fun. We have some winding mountain roads around here and I'd like to be able to enjoy them without too much fear of sliding off the road. :burnrubber:

I'm not sure how that works actually. The tires are over $200 each MSRP, sell for about $120-$150 each if you talk to the right people. I dunno if the dealer will give credit or not.

The dealer will probably not give you a credit at all. You can always go to a a place like America's Tire and to a trade for a credit. I traded in my stock Primacys ($240 total credit) with 1800 miles on them. Used that credit to buy a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports. If you plan to drift on an empty parking lot every now and then, you will need to avoid the Pilot Super Sports because they are very "sticky". For more on tires check out this technical topic http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=24

The stock tires aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. If you want the car to feel alive and be able to "slide around a little" then just keep the hps. They're terrible for something like track or autocross but they aren't "slide off the road" bad. Not if you know how to drive at least.

Unless it's a very large dealership they're likely only to have direct replacements for OEM tires (i.e. more of what's already on your car). The good news is that means they may offer credit to keep your tires to have a few on-hand. However, once a tire has been mounted it's no longer considered new, it really depends on the miles on the car and whether they stock "take-offs."

I've seen quite a few threads of in the tire section for the various version of the super sport, if the dealer already offers Michelin they should be able to get those easily enough.

I'd be suprised if the dealer went with this... I've always wished they'd give me credit for stock tires/wheels and just let me bring my own but it just won't happen. :)

BTW, which dealer are you working with? Is it local such as Capital or Cleveland?

Thanks everyone. Based on your comments, that might explain why I have not heard back from the dealer yet!


It's Capital. The guy I am working with is a brand new sales guy, so I am cutting him lots of slack on his communication and "let me check on that" responses. :)

I received $300 credit for my stock FR-S tires at Discount Tire with another $100 Visa Check Card from a promotion when I upgraded tires. The tires had ~130 miles on them.

Another possibility is Craigslist. If you put up a set of 4 barely used/brand new tires you could probably get about $300 for them.

I know this isn't Scion/Toyota, but my friend just bought a mk6 Golf last summer and bought GTI optional rims and tires which were approx $1250 alone. The VW dealership gave it to him for $800 after deducting the stock rims and tires that they kept, so that's $450 off.

Dealer offered me $50 a piece or so when the car arrived as credit towards another set. Didn't take them up on that.

The OEM tires really aren't that bad. They're specific for this car to allow easy controlled drifting. If I was you ... keep the OEM tires. Learn how to drive the car properly and when the OEMs are toast .... then upgrade to grippier tires such as the Michelin PSS.

It's looking like this is exactly what I will end up doing. The dealer said it should arrive "late this week", so this coming weekend might be a great one!

Post up in my Monogram Series Orders thread when you get it! I'm expecting my firestorm monogram to arrive this weekend (ETA is March 16) so I'll have photos next week with delivery taken hopefully by the end of that week after accessories are installed

Just enjoy the stock tires while they last, they perform great up to a limit, and the limit is pretty high.

I've taken mine on road trips and DD on them and they're still in good shape: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=231

My local Americas Tire Co. gave me $400 credit for OEM takeoffs and there was another Bridgestone spiff in play then for another $100 for a total $500 credit toward a set of RE-11A's that I since sold and replaced with Michelin Pilot Super Sports that had another $75 spiff going, both sets 225/45-17 on stock rims. The math worked out so that it's only cost about $200 to play with two sets of max performance tires during the past year, well worth the experience and dramatic improvement they made to the car in both road and track conditions. Highly recommended, the stock tires are merely adequate in the dry, incompetent in the wet. Do it!

Reason for downgrading the sticky from RE-11A to Pilot Super Sports?

Good plan. I feel the OEM tires are just fine for average driving. Not so much on cold roads or in the snow.

humfrz

Wet grip, ride quality and weight savings.

The RE-11A's have phenomenal dry grip when temps are +50°F, otherwise it's on tiptoes as the VSC gets active in Sport mode. And their stiff sidewalls and tread transmit every road imperfection into annoying jolts and shocks felt through the steering and seats.

The PSS's are 4 lbs. per corner lighter so turn-in is noticeably improved, acceleration seems quicker and ride quality is relatively plush. Wet grip is in another league, very confidence inspiring. I only have 150 miles on them and need to test pressures, the rear is definitely loose compared to the RE-11A's. I've read that grip improves after 150 miles so we'll see. I think 28-30 psi might keep things planted better than 32 psi now, much how the RE-11A's responded.

So I wouldn't call it a downgrade but I've yet to track the PSS's. I'll know better soon but for now call it a change for the better with the bonus of a 30,000 mile warranty.

Check the reviews and ratings on both at tirerack.com and it's a coin toss unless you live where it rains.

When I bought my Monogram, I talked the dealer into swapping out the OEM Michelin Primacys for a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports. All I had to do was pay a $65 labor charge for dismounting the old tires, and mounting and balancing the new tires.

This is what I should've done, but didn't think of it. I guess there's always next time. :D

I used the stock tires for 8000 miles and then upgraded to PSS's at a Discount/America Tire. They still gave me I think a little over $100 for the tires even with mileage on them. Learning the car on the stock tires was interesting, but it feels so much better on the PSS's. Of course, if you start off on sticky rubber, you wouldn't know the limits of the car before the swap.

My originals are stacked in the garage used as "wets" when rain threatens to ruin the weekend.