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2015 86/BRZ vs 2015 Eclipse
Anyone post this before ?
Eclipse from 2000 - 2014 looks so ugly to me. This concept looks way better and does look like the ones in the late 90's. However, I still prefer a 86/BRZ more. What do you guys think? http://www.carscoops.com/2013/12/201...oncept-is.html http://newcar82.blogspot.ca/2013/12/...ipse-2015.html http://lh6.ggpht.com/-fgMBmd4tDsk/Uq...5B2%25255D.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/-5hjkSM_i3Ms/Uq...5B2%25255D.jpg http://lh3.ggpht.com/-T3d-4xfTzZg/Uq...5B2%25255D.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/-EJ45gRMO6yA/Uq...5B2%25255D.jpg |
Thanks for that sir! I for one wish Mitsubishi would return to building performance cars.... The 3000gt was my favorite car and the EVO and eclipse gsx were amazing as well... This concept looks unique and aggressive so do the RA...to bad the cancelled that as well :(
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Mitsubishi has certainly made huge leaps in improving the looks of the Eclipse. So ugly the past few years. I still like the FRS/BRZ. Worth looking at the specs and price though
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I drove a 2003 Eclipse GTS. Wasn't as nice as the older Eclipse's, but it definitely wasn't as ugly at the previous body style! The 2015 Eclipse looks decent, but it doesn't grab my attention like a BRZ/FR-S.
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Eclipse is Dead
3000 GT is Dead Evolution is Dying Mitsubishi is Dying Ends of thread. |
The car is a rendering and a design study. This is not a real car, nor does the existence of this rendering "prove" that Mitsubishi readying a FRS / BRZ fighter. In fact, your second link removed all watermarks from the original designer and shamelessly posted these pictures to their site in an attempt to increase page views.
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I can concur with the "Evo sucks" Argument, at least some of them. Had a GS-T Spyder. Sold it when it developed crank walk (because of course it did, because Mitsu has the quality control of a soviet tank factory). Any 4G63 owner will understand.
Or to put it another way: You know what the quicker track-day car will be? The one that starts! |
good luck waiting
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I would like it a lot if it didn't look like that.
It is about to transform...too much going on. |
This is a troll post, right? No one is honestly considering a Mitsubishi Eclipse over any other car, are they? ARE THEY? TELL ME THIS IS A TROLL POST!
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The only car I would buy from the company is an EVO but other than that I agree with most people that it is a dying brand. No eclipse..
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Still a chick car
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I kinda wanna pick up a 2014 Evo just b/c it stands to be the last :P
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lol, only on the internet would "I owned a DSM from 20 years ago and it sucked, so the new EVO must suck" be stated as a valid claim.
It'll be interesting to see how long Mitsubishi can stay put in the market here. Lots of people claim they're dead or dying, but I'll keep quiet until the last dealership closes down. |
Mitsu will kick the can like Pontiac.
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I do like that rendering but i don't know if i would call it a contender for the brz/frs due to it being fwd.. That is like comparing the gti to a 370z. Their pricing is ridiculous on the evo 42k!!!!! As much as I love evos I can't justify spending that on one I would much rather have a 335xi than an evo.
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I've owned 2 Mitsu's. My current is extremely fast and fun (heavily modified obviously) but pretty much the best AWD system I've driven, especially in the snow here (and we get a lot).
Their biggest issue is simply having left the performance game. Even the EvoX and Ralliart require quite a bit of mods and tuning to get them to the spirit of the Evo9 and predecessors. With cars like the iMiev and new Mirage, it's a disgusting brand. There's no reason to make eco-friendly or "sport" cars aesthetically brutal like they do. It's pretty sad, but unless they revamp and bring back a true sports car lineup (AWD Eclipse turbo, New Evo, 3000GT supercar type V6TT AWD), they're toast. |
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They just need to make eco sports cars. The next Evo was supposed to be a diesel hybrid which would be just fine as long as it made 300whp/300wtq. The torque curve on a diesel would be excellent and very low down, they just are getting terrible designers and not thinking outside the box.
I wish the sub-brand Ralliart would fully reopen and make their own cars like SRT does with Dodge now. |
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It is obvious the car isn't real and regardless AWD or FWD it is still apples to oranges. You are talking about AWD Eclipses well that came from the DSM era and as much as I hate to say it the DSM is done. Dodge and Mitsu still team up they did with making little bits and pieces for my car SRT4 they also did it with the evo x by putting the 4b11s higher displacement 4b12 in the SRT4 caliber. I made the assumption based on the fact that DSM is done and the fact that if there is a next gen eclipse they simply can't afford to risk making an AWD eclipse and have it fail. Like mentioned before Mitsubishi is having a rough time right now and I can't tell you the last time someone traded in a new Mitsu or even seen one on the road other than a lancer I have seen more ralliarts and evo xs around me than base lancers and that right there should tell you something. Mitsu simply can't afford to risk creating a car like the BRZ or FRS why because they don't have the revenue that Toyota/Scion or Subaru has. |
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So, according to Mitsubishi's US site, here is their current lineup:
Lancer - Starts at $17,195 Lancer Sportback - Starts at $18,595 Lancer Evolution - Starts at $34,995 (this is the GSR/5spd manual, the MR starts at $38,195) Mirage - Starts at $12,995 (almost $16,000 with the 1.2L engine with CVT) Outlander Sport Outlander i-MiEV (coming Spring 2014) - At a starting price of $15,495 it's not bad for people looking for a cheap full-electric vehicle Well-equipper the Evo. X is $43K before taxes and fees. No wonder it's dying out. |
I think Mitsubishi is a little too busy trying to exist than put any attention to a low volume sporty car. So even if it did exist, it wouldn't have nearly the amount of chassis modifications, purpose built parts and R&D that the 86 platform was made with. It's only selling points would probably end up being looks and price. But I would not bet on Mitsubishi being that adventurous with design either.
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How did we make it to the bottom of page 2 and nobody posted this?! :)
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...ecrankwalk.jpg |
Also.. I don't like the Dodge Dart rear end:
http://www.scoopcar.com/images/dodge...Rear-Angle.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/-NRVHKNkx7lg/Uq...5B2%25255D.jpg |
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