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Prog 03-08-2014 11:17 PM

Removable Nexus 7 install
 
A while back I decided to try doing a Nexus 7 install, and with much help from these forums and @phanguy (probably would've given up on this without you, haha), I was able to get a good test install in my car. But since I live in Louisiana, I needed to deal with the whole "extremely hot summer" thing, meaning the Nexus can't stay in the car since it could stop working/catch on fire/explode/etc (I supposed this would also be useful if you want a Nexus 7 install, but are scared of theft). So, I decided to make it easily removable. It's still a little bit ghetto and I have some refinements to make, but I made the center bezel even easier to remove, and made the Nexus easily removable from the center bezel so I can just grab it and throw it in my bag.

To do: Gotta put some foam or something on the bottom right corner, as removing the clips has made that part rattle.

Removing the Nexus 7 from the bezel:
[ame]http://youtu.be/FTrHHNfmKB8[/ame]

Showing how easy it is to remove/install the bezel:
[ame]http://youtu.be/3rNfmTNhuUo[/ame]

Showing that it stays in, but is still easy enough to remove with one hand:
[ame]http://youtu.be/5aGYIhBEtJQ[/ame]


Install process-

Bought a new bezel to screw around with. First had to cut off the top clip.
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...lub/bezel1.JPG

Next I removed the white clips from the bezel, then used plastics bonder to glue a neodymium magnet to the top and two metal brackets to the sides.
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...lipsmagnet.jpg

http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...sinstalled.JPG

This is the kind of ghetto part that I need to work on. I stacked more neodymium magnets on top of the glued one to extend the reach. Those stick to a screw in the console and hold the bezel in. This actually works, but isn't super elegant. I also wrapped the brackets in electrical tape and covered some card stock in electrical tape and taped it to the inner edges to cover the small gap and to act as guides for the Nexus when it's being slid in.
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...kedmagnets.jpg

Looks like this with the Nexus inserted:
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...kslikethis.jpg

And this is my main music interface, which is temporary since I'm waiting for Timur to release his ROM for the 2nd gen Nexus 7 before doing a whole lot more work on it:
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums.../interface.jpg

phanguy 03-08-2014 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1584831)
A while back I did a Nexus 7 install, and with much help from these forums and @phanguy (probably would've given up on this without you, haha), I was able to get a good test install in my car. But since I live in Louisiana, I needed to deal with the whole "extremely hot summer" thing, meaning the Nexus can't stay in the car since it could stop working/catch on fire/explode/etc. So, I decided to make it easily removable. It's still a little bit ghetto and I have some refinements to make, but I made the center bezel even easier to remove, and made the Nexus easily removable from the center bezel so I can just grab it and throw it in my bag.

Removing the Nexus 7 from the bezel:
http://youtu.be/FTrHHNfmKB8

Showing how easy it is to remove/install the bezel:
http://youtu.be/3rNfmTNhuUo

Showing that it stays in, but is still easy enough to remove with one hand:
http://youtu.be/5aGYIhBEtJQ


Install process-

Bought a new bezel to screw around with. First had to cut off the top clip.
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...lub/bezel1.JPG

Next I removed the white clips from the bezel, then used plastics bonder to glue a neodymium magnet to the top and two metal brackets to the sides.
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...lipsmagnet.jpg

http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...sinstalled.JPG

This is the kind of ghetto part that I need to work on. I stacked more neodymium magnets on top of the glued one to extend the reach. Those stick to a screw in the console and hold the bezel in. This actually works, but isn't super elegant. I also wrapped the brackets in electrical tape and covered some card stock in electrical tape and taped it to the inner edges to cover the small gap and to act as guides for the Nexus when it's being slid in.
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...kedmagnets.jpg

Looks like this with the Nexus inserted:
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums...kslikethis.jpg

And this is my main music interface, which is temporary since I'm waiting for Timur to release his ROM for the 2nd gen Nexus 7 before doing a whole lot more work on it:
http://inphiltrate.com/images/forums.../interface.jpg

Looks great! I have a similar idea for mine with magnets but haven't gotten around to it yet. And I'm waiting on Timur's new ROM as well! Haha

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

ucsmfu 03-09-2014 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 1584837)
Looks great! I have a similar idea for mine with magnets but haven't gotten around to it yet. And I'm waiting on Timur's new ROM as well! Haha

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

will Timur release a new rom for 2nd gen Nexus 7 ?

Trashed675 03-09-2014 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ucsmfu (Post 1585092)
will Timur release a new rom for 2nd gen Nexus 7 ?

Yes, its in the works right now. Release date says May.


https://timur.mobi/timurs-kernel-n7-2013/

z3ro 03-09-2014 11:10 AM

i thought it was already done, you just had to donate to get it before May?

Andrew025 03-09-2014 11:24 AM

What route did you go for audio and charging?

Prog 03-09-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 1585327)
What route did you go for audio and charging?

Audio is using the aux port and charging is via a USB cigarette lighter adapter in the glovebox. Once Timur's 2nd gen ROM comes out, audio will be through the USB port via a USB DAC that I already have.

Andrew025 03-09-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1585329)
Audio is using the aux port and charging is via a USB cigarette lighter adapter in the glovebox. Once Timur's 2nd gen ROM comes out, audio will be through the USB port via a USB DAC that I already have.

Do you have a single DIN installed elsewhere?

Also, has anyone told you that you could be a hand model?

Prog 03-09-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 1585385)
Do you have a single DIN installed elsewhere?

Also, has anyone told you that you could be a hand model?

Single DIN is behind the Nexus in the car.

And no, hahahaha. :lol:

Trashed675 03-09-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1585329)
Audio is using the aux port and charging is via a USB cigarette lighter adapter in the glovebox. Once Timur's 2nd gen ROM comes out, audio will be through the USB port via a USB DAC that I already have.

What is the advantage of the usb dac over bt or aux?

Also when I tried using aux-> my head unit, while the tablet was plugged into the 12v, I'd get interference. A whining noise that would get higher pitch the higher I revved the engine. Have you come across this?

Prog 03-09-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trashed675 (Post 1585474)
What is the advantage of the usb dac over bt or aux?

Also when I tried using aux-> my head unit, while the tablet was plugged into the 12v, I'd get interference. A whining noise that would get higher pitch the higher I revved the engine. Have you come across this?

I tried Bluetooth with my phone and my Nexus paired to it, and it would constantly switch between devices for no apparent reason. If the Nexus were the only thing paired to it, that might've worked, but I don't feel like removing the Nexus to switch to the correct device every time I get in the car.

You can *mostly* get rid of interference with a ground loop isolator. If you stop/pause your music, there will still be a slight whine, but when the music is on, there is no issue. A USB DAC will amplify the sound so the head unit won't have to be turned up so loud, and should potentially make the whine completely disappear (though I'd defer to others who have actually tried this). For reference, if I plug my iPhone in and put my head unit on a volume setting of 10, that's about the equivalent of putting the aux for the Nexus on 30 and setting the Nexus' system volume at about halfway (so I can control the sound from the Nexus and still be able to make it higher and lower if I want). Because the volume is at 30 on my head unit, I think it's amplifying interference and making it much more noticeable. DAC *should* resolve that.

phanguy 03-09-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1585497)
I tried Bluetooth with my phone and my Nexus paired to it, and it would constantly switch between devices for no apparent reason. If the Nexus were the only thing paired to it, that might've worked, but I don't feel like removing the Nexus to switch to the correct device every time I get in the car.

You can *mostly* get rid of interference with a ground loop isolator. If you stop/pause your music, there will still be a slight whine, but when the music is on, there is no issue. A USB DAC will amplify the sound so the head unit won't have to be turned up so loud, and should potentially make the whine completely disappear (though I'd defer to others who have actually tried this). For reference, if I plug my iPhone in and put my head unit on a volume setting of 10, that's about the equivalent of putting the aux for the Nexus on 30 and setting the Nexus' system volume at about halfway (so I can control the sound from the Nexus and still be able to make it higher and lower if I want). Because the volume is at 30 on my head unit, I think it's amplifying interference and making it much more noticeable. DAC *should* resolve that.

Spot on. DAC completely resolves that issue. My only problem now is that the DAC I have sucks up a lot of power and my tablet can't charge faster than what I lose when I'm not in my car... This should be resolved by Timur's new kernel. Although I could probably fix it with a DAC that uses external power.

CxG 04-07-2017 04:49 PM

THIS, I'VE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR THIS. Bump for a clean way to install a nexus 7 behind the dash

phanguy 04-12-2017 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CxG (Post 2887427)
THIS, I'VE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR THIS. Bump for a clean way to install a nexus 7 behind the dash

no real clean way to do it unless you are ready to learn(or already know how) to fabricate custom dash pieces. this is what i did when i left the nexus 7 and went to an ipad mini install.

Prog 04-12-2017 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 2890436)
no real clean way to do it unless you are ready to learn(or already know how) to fabricate custom dash pieces. this is what i did when i left the nexus 7 and went to an ipad mini install.

Yeeeupp. I eventually gave up on the magnet thing because it would just randomly fall apart (the glue that held the brackets wouldn't stick...even though it was for gluing plastic, I guess it didn't work well on that type of plastic).

I have Apple CarPlay now and I'd never try something like this again except for funsies. I just enjoy having something that works, is responsive, and automatically updates.

CxG 04-20-2017 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 2890436)
no real clean way to do it unless you are ready to learn(or already know how) to fabricate custom dash pieces. this is what i did when i left the nexus 7 and went to an ipad mini install.

I'm and android fan so I'll be rooting my nexus this weekend, getting ready to install soon. I figure this with the little 3D printed plastic pieces for the edges should be clean enough (hopefully). I wouldn't mind learning how to make a custom dash but I want it to look good and don't know how long that'd take

phanguy 04-21-2017 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CxG (Post 2895522)
I'm and android fan so I'll be rooting my nexus this weekend, getting ready to install soon. I figure this with the little 3D printed plastic pieces for the edges should be clean enough (hopefully). I wouldn't mind learning how to make a custom dash but I want it to look good and don't know how long that'd take

if you can use a dremel, bondo, sand paper, and spray paint then you're good to go.

kt45 04-24-2017 11:40 PM

I just removed the battery on my tablet and wired it into a constant 5V and it recieves power for timurs on/off function from my usb hub which is wired to accessory. Zip tied it to my bezel so no ghettoness on the outside.

CxG 05-03-2017 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kt45 (Post 2898284)
I just removed the battery on my tablet and wired it into a constant 5V and it recieves power for timurs on/off function from my usb hub which is wired to accessory. Zip tied it to my bezel so no ghettoness on the outside.

Pictures?

allowe 05-09-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 2890449)
Yeeeupp. I eventually gave up on the magnet thing because it would just randomly fall apart (the glue that held the brackets wouldn't stick...even though it was for gluing plastic, I guess it didn't work well on that type of plastic).

I have Apple CarPlay now and I'd never try something like this again except for funsies. I just enjoy having something that works, is responsive, and automatically updates.

are you still using the nexus 7? did you do anything differently? hows sound quality?

kt45 05-09-2017 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CxG (Post 2903360)
Pictures?

Ill probably put together a build thread in a bit. But basically you wire in a usb car phone charger to your 12v constant. Then you take a usb cable and solder the v+ and GND to the wires and pcb of the nexus 7 battery after you separate the connector/pcb from the battery. Theres a video on youtube somewhere.

Heres how it looks mounted.

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/...509_132026.jpg

allowe 05-09-2017 04:58 PM

Removable Nexus 7 install
 
Why don't people just use the tablet mount instead? It's a lot easier to install and you can take it out whenever u want and be able to keep your volume knob

Also, anyone using nexus 7 2nd gen?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Andrew025 05-09-2017 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allowe (Post 2907324)
Why don't people just use the tablet mount instead? It's a lot easier to install and you can take it out whenever u want and be able to keep your volume knob

Also, anyone using nexus 7 2nd gen?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because it looks a lot better integrated into the dash.
I had a 2nd gen in dash with my WRX with working steering wheel controls, auto power on/sleep etc...

kt45 05-11-2017 02:41 PM

Yep actually looks like it belongs there instead of hanging off of your dash. I feel like it can be mistaken as a oem unit this way. Integrated SWC working as well. Only issues I have with my 2nd gen are with Timurs kernel not turning off and has to be unplugged to suspend. His blog says its likely a cranking issue. Anyone come across this?


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