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SubBrZ 03-06-2014 12:14 PM

TPMS problem
 
Recently purchased wheel and tires from tirerack and new TPMS. Went to subaru to get them initialized. They said they couldn't. Has anyone ran into this problem?

TM 03-06-2014 12:20 PM

Someone told me that they brought their BRZ to the Subaru dealer to reset the TMPS sensors on the stock tires (switching back from winter tires) and Subaru's machine or device couldn't read the code. They had to bring it over to the Toyota dealer and had them read the code for them. Weird, huh?

Grimlock 03-06-2014 12:24 PM

That's strange. I bought new wheels/tires/ TPMS sensors from Tire Rack. I also got the TPMS sensor IDs from Tire Rack. The Subaru dealer didn't have any problem reading programming the ECU to the new sensor IDs.

If I didn't have the new IDs, the dealer was going to dismount the tires and read the IDs off the sensors by eye.

Beyer Subaru 03-06-2014 12:28 PM

This is what I'm talkin about @switchlanez.

Ok, since you got the sensors from tire rack they should be able to provide you with the code numbers on the sensors.

If they can't provide these then you will need to break the bead on every rim/tire to read the codes off of the sensors.

The TPMS sensors are now Toyota and not Subaru. As such each sensor has it's own code. When you switch wheels, tires, etc you need to supply Subaru Service with these codes for the sensors to be re-initialized.

I just went through this with my new rim/tire set-up. My Shop Foreman is as car crazy as I am and gave me fair warning that when I swapped em he would need these codes. So I snapped a pic of all four sensors before they were mounted/balanced. When I took them to him he was able to enter them into an OBD computer that links to our port and voila.

Dave-ROR 03-06-2014 12:37 PM

People buy TPMS sensors for aftermarket wheels? :)

<< Has been TPMS sensorless since 1 week of ownership..

SubBrZ 03-06-2014 01:16 PM

Yes I provided the code to them and still couldn't read them. Might try Toyota dealership

TM 03-06-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SubBrZ (Post 1578779)
Yes I provided the code to them and still couldn't read them. Might try Toyota dealership

Why do they need to read the code if you already have them? Can't they just program the vehicle to the codes? Maybe I don't really understand how TPMS works.

The person I was talking about was trying to reset to the stock wheel TPMS sensors, so it made sense to go to the Toyota dealer. Even then, after Toyota read the code, the Subaru dealer took it back to their service department to program it. They wrote down the codes and put it in the glove compartment so they don't need to bring it over to Toyota again next time.

Not sure if it makes a difference going to a different manufacturer dealer when you have aftermarket sensors.

twag4 03-06-2014 01:44 PM

The tire shop I do all my business with, has a device that can get the codes electronically through the tire sidewall. It can then be plugged in to the OBDII port and adjust the ECU. He does it for me for free. Check with tire shops to see if they could do it for you.

Beyer Subaru 03-06-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SubBrZ (Post 1578779)
Yes I provided the code to them and still couldn't read them. Might try Toyota dealership

You should have four different codes from the four different sensors.

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Originally Posted by TM (Post 1578823)
Why do they need to read the code if you already have them? Can't they just program the vehicle to the codes? Maybe I don't really understand how TPMS works.

The person I was talking about was trying to reset to the stock wheel TPMS sensors, so it made sense to go to the Toyota dealer. Even then, after Toyota read the code, the Subaru dealer took it back to their service department to program it. They wrote down the codes and put it in the glove compartment so they don't need to bring it over to Toyota again next time.

Not sure if it makes a difference going to a different manufacturer dealer when you have aftermarket sensors.

Yeah, doesn't make sense to me either. Except TireRack is a very good company that will try to keep you as close to OEM spec as possible and might use the same style as ours that actually requires programming to the ecu.

SubBrZ 03-06-2014 02:13 PM

I have after market TPMS that was provided by tirerack. I talked to Marshall from tirerack and he said the ECU should have read the sensors without having any problem. Subaru said its a Toyota tech and that they needed the codes. I gave them the codes. Still any read the sensors. Gonna try Toyota dealership next unless someone can point out a fix.

Beyer Subaru 03-06-2014 02:56 PM

The car won't "read" the sensors without the codes being input through the OBD tool. Your Suby dealer might not know what they're doing?

SubBrZ 03-06-2014 03:44 PM

Those guy said that, that's what they do but they said that BRZ is different. I'm not sure how...

andrew20195 03-06-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SubBrZ (Post 1579261)
Those guy said that, that's what they do but they said that BRZ is different. I'm not sure how...

On most Subarus, the TPMS is initialized by putting the TPMS control unit into learning mode and activating each sensor with a handheld wireless tool so they can be learned. As Beyer Subaru said above, this tool will not work with the BRZ system. With the BRZ, you have to manually input the ID numbers found on the sensors. If you have the numbers, there's no reason the Subaru dealer shouldn't have been able to do it.

aschnell 03-06-2014 06:23 PM

If you want to do it yourself get a ATEQ quick set. $150 from Amazon. Then you can swap wheels on your own. Need the ids from tire rack. I went to local tire dealer to read out codes since tire rack messed up one of my codes. Subaru was useless.

Imrac 03-06-2014 06:28 PM

I have mine done at the local Discount Tires (American Tires in other parts of the states). They just walk around the car scanning the sensors, then use the OBD2 port to upload. The only issue is their tool isn't updated for the BRZ/FRS yet. Tell them to use a 2012 Toyota Camry preset and it will work just fine.

Another thing you can use is the Toyota's Tech Stream and a cheap USB to OBD2 port dongle and update the codes yourself. (Although I haven't tried it yet, I believe it will work).

CoupedUpSubie 03-06-2014 06:41 PM

If a Subaru dealership can't do it there is one of two reasons. They want to sell you OEM sensors or they aren't experienced at all with the BRZ. Chances are they are trying to get you to buy from them.

raptor87 03-06-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Imrac (Post 1579794)
Another thing you can use is the Toyota's Tech Stream and a cheap USB to OBD2 port dongle and update the codes yourself. (Although I haven't tried it yet, I believe it will work).

works, just did mine today

qijian 03-06-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by raptor87 (Post 1579989)
works, just did mine today

how you do it? j/w

RL_BRZ 03-07-2014 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschnell (Post 1579773)
If you want to do it yourself get a ATEQ quick set. $150 from Amazon. Then you can swap wheels on your own. Need the ids from tire rack. I went to local tire dealer to read out codes since tire rack messed up one of my codes. Subaru was useless.

I did this... And it works for me... :w00t:

B-R-Z 04-19-2014 07:30 PM

Is the code needed by the ECU printed on the sensor itself, or can it only be read wirelessly with some type of tool?

I just ordered a set of used sensors on ebay, as well as a ATEQ Quickset reader from Amazon. I'm now trying to figure out how to get the codes to input into the tool.

aschnell 04-20-2014 08:40 AM

Codes should be printed on the out side of the sensors

connorlug 04-20-2014 06:24 PM

The codes are printed on the outside of the sensor

it'll be like a 'BU78362' 7 digits, all in caps. some letters and numbers.

bring the codes to a toyota dealer and give them the ID #'s. tire rack should have given those ID #'s to you. we usually charge a half hour of labor to reprogram the tpms. anything more than that you're getting robbed.

or if you can get your hands on toyota techstream software you can do it yourself.
click on tire pressure monitoring once you connect to the vehicle, then hit utility on the left hand side. you'll see it.

B-R-Z 04-20-2014 08:04 PM

I'll have the ATEQ Quickset so I'll be fine to do it myself. Thanks for the reply


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