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rmdrag0n 03-01-2014 02:45 PM

PO171 SYSTEM TOO LEAN BANK 1
 
Hey guys Ive got a supercharged 350 horse 2013 scion frs (automatic) and my check engine light is coming on.
I took it to toyota and they ran there computer on it and I got 2 error codes

1. PO171 system too lean (bank 1)
2. P117B Fuel Performance/Direct Injector

The mechanic at toyota noticed on the dual exhaust that the oil is too rich and inside of the exhaust pipes was too black...
Im assuming this means its not enough oxygen and too much gas or something?
Toyota wont fix it because its been modded and not under waranty.... I took it to a few other places but they didnt have the right computer to talk to the car.
Im wondering what I should do, if anybody has experienced this, maybe hint me what I might need to change, really any info / help would be greatly appreciated!
When I hit the gas it backfires and the car is just eating my gas like crazy!
PLEASE HELP!
this is a beautiful car and i want to fix it!
Thanks guys!

Mad1723 03-01-2014 03:13 PM

The first place I would go to is your tuner. The one who modified your ECU to make the supercharger work. He's the one responsible for your engine running like crap.

jflogerzi 03-01-2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad1723 (Post 1567233)
The first place I would go to is your tuner. The one who modified your ECU to make the supercharger work. He's the one responsible for your engine running like crap.

+1 Also get why would you take your FI twin to the dealer. I am surprised they helped you.

stugray 03-01-2014 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567179)
1. PO171 system too lean (bank 1)
2. P117B Fuel Performance/Direct Injector

The mechanic at toyota noticed on the dual exhaust that the oil is too rich and inside of the exhaust pipes was too black...
Im assuming this means its not enough oxygen and too much gas or something?

Those two statements are contradictory.

The code says too lean, and the exhaust says too rich.
And a DI error...
DO you ever hear "pops" or backfires coming from under the hood?

And where did you get your tune?
Dont tell us you just put on the SC and drove it like that....

Sportsguy83 03-01-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567179)
Hey guys Ive got a supercharged 350 horse 2013 scion frs (automatic) and my check engine light is coming on.
I took it to toyota and they ran there computer on it and I got 2 error codes

1. PO171 system too lean (bank 1)
2. P117B Fuel Performance/Direct Injector

The mechanic at toyota noticed on the dual exhaust that the oil is too rich and inside of the exhaust pipes was too black...
Im assuming this means its not enough oxygen and too much gas or something?
Toyota wont fix it because its been modded and not under waranty.... I took it to a few other places but they didnt have the right computer to talk to the car.
Im wondering what I should do, if anybody has experienced this, maybe hint me what I might need to change, really any info / help would be greatly appreciated!
When I hit the gas it backfires and the car is just eating my gas like crazy!
PLEASE HELP!
this is a beautiful car and i want to fix it!
Thanks guys!

Its your tuner you need to talk to. He needs to do some adjustments in closed loop fueling.

rmdrag0n 03-01-2014 03:41 PM

thats the biggest problem is I bought the car the way it is from a used car dealership and I cant get the previous owners information So i have no idea of finding out where he got the car tuned... :\

jflogerzi 03-01-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567309)
thats the biggest problem is I bought the car the way it is from a used car dealership and I cant get the previous owners information So i have no idea of finding out where he got the car tuned... :\

Oh man.... wow. I am speechless. I would not have touched that car with a 10 foot poll

BlueDubbinTDI 03-01-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567309)
thats the biggest problem is I bought the car the way it is from a used car dealership and I cant get the previous owners information So i have no idea of finding out where he got the car tuned... :\

God what an awful idea man :( id find a local shop and flash to stock, sell the supercharger setup and recoup some shop losses.

stugray 03-01-2014 04:43 PM

Contact shiv@vishnu http://www.openflashtablet.com/
Tell them exactly what the car has: type of SC, exhaust, etc.

And see if they have a OFT tune that you could try.
If so, it would be well worth the $500 to get a OFT and the tune, then you can log to see what is wrong.

If you are running a SC and the system is too lean, it is only a matter of time before you will be shopping for a new engine.

jflogerzi 03-01-2014 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 1567419)
Contact shiv@vishnu http://www.openflashtablet.com/
Tell them exactly what the car has: type of SC, exhaust, etc.

And see if they have a OFT tune that you could try.
If so, it would be well worth the $500 to get a OFT and the tune, then you can log to see what is wrong.

If you are running a SC and the system is too lean, it is only a matter of time before you will be shopping for a new engine.

I dont think shiv does remote fi tunes yet. Also there are so many unknowns. This car could have been running lean for a while. If I were the op I would find a good local shop and have them do an assessment. How much did you pay. Also can you post a picture of the engine bay. Not that many sc kits for this car are out there.

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rmdrag0n 03-01-2014 07:11 PM

Scion fra
 
I paid too much, and I got recommended to a tuner, would it be worthwhile to have the whole turbo kit retuned from scratch for a thousand bucks? I talked to a guy who tunes these cars and he said that's the best way to go

stugray 03-01-2014 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567640)
I paid too much, and I got recommended to a tuner, would it be worthwhile to have the whole turbo kit retuned from scratch for a thousand bucks? I talked to a guy who tunes these cars and he said that's the best way to go

In the first post you say supercharged and now you say turbo....
Do you even know what you have?

whitefrs 03-01-2014 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567179)
Hey guys Ive got a supercharged 350 horse 2013 scion frs (automatic) and my check engine light is coming on.
I took it to toyota and they ran there computer on it and I got 2 error codes

1. PO171 system too lean (bank 1)
2. P117B Fuel Performance/Direct Injector

The mechanic at toyota noticed on the dual exhaust that the oil is too rich and inside of the exhaust pipes was too black...
Im assuming this means its not enough oxygen and too much gas or something?
Toyota wont fix it because its been modded and not under waranty.... I took it to a few other places but they didnt have the right computer to talk to the car.
Im wondering what I should do, if anybody has experienced this, maybe hint me what I might need to change, really any info / help would be greatly appreciated!
When I hit the gas it backfires and the car is just eating my gas like crazy!
PLEASE HELP!
this is a beautiful car and i want to fix it!
Thanks guys!


get the car tuned ASAP
many tuners

@JuniorAWD
@DeliciousTuning
@FullBlown
@moto-east

whitefrs 03-01-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567640)
I paid too much, and I got recommended to a tuner, would it be worthwhile to have the whole turbo kit retuned from scratch for a thousand bucks? I talked to a guy who tunes these cars and he said that's the best way to go

well if u have an ecutek license, i doubt u have to pay the license fee.

all u gotta pay is the tune which is from 300-600

rmdrag0n 03-01-2014 07:35 PM

no im not sure what i have lol i just had some money and bought this car im not really a car guy, just getting into it now il post some pics

turbocat 03-01-2014 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567685)
no im not sure what i have lol i just had some money and bought this car im not really a car guy, just getting into it now il post some pics

http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/...t-trolling.jpg

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/dto_g...ehicle_id=2609

Mad1723 03-01-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567685)
no im not sure what i have lol i just had some money and bought this car im not really a car guy, just getting into it now il post some pics

Definitely a turbo. AVO maybe? Someone more into turbos will be able to identify it clearly

rmdrag0n 03-01-2014 07:54 PM

LOL
I think im gonna spend the 850 and get the car retuned by a local tuner and then hopefully from there shel be okay....
Check engine light is off since yesterday when I touch the exhaust pipes its still way to much liquid black crap coming out, sometimes the car is backfiring when I rev the engine and the 02 sensors im guessing are off.
hope this car will be ready to race this summer and doesnt end up costing me more than a grand to fix

whitefrs 03-01-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmdrag0n (Post 1567713)
LOL
I think im gonna spend the 850 and get the car retuned by a local tuner and then hopefully from there shel be okay....
Check engine light is off since yesterday when I touch the exhaust pipes its still way to much liquid black crap coming out, sometimes the car is backfiring when I rev the engine and the 02 sensors im guessing are off.
hope this car will be ready to race this summer and doesnt end up costing me more than a grand to fix


Shoot a pic ofbur engine bay


I love boost!!!!!!

nelsmar 03-01-2014 11:28 PM

Sounds like you already have an ecutek license. Any ecutek tuner wil be able tell you in about thirty seconds of sitting in the car. And it sounds like you got it figured out. You may honestly just be on the basemap. You should ask the tuner to query the Ecu and get the flash count I am curious what the count currently is.

DeliciousTuning 03-01-2014 11:34 PM

Need more info.

1. What kit is on the car?
2. Do you have any logs to share?
3. What additional parts are on the car?
4. Did it throw these codes right after a tune or was it days or weeks later?
5. Anything that you changed that may have caused a CEL? Literally anything?

There are a million questions to ask, but each one leads us down a path and narrows in on what the problem, cause and solution is for your vehicle.

Cheers,
William Knose

s2d4 03-02-2014 01:48 AM

hahah, it says full blown turbo in his profile....

rmdrag0n 03-02-2014 01:49 AM

I got the car in november, it didnt seem right since day one, the check engine light only came on about a week ago though, its a stage 1 full blown turbo kit.
I havent made any changes to the vehicle since I got it...
I was driving in toronto and thats when I noticed The check engine light came on. Im not sure if it was from hitting a bad pot hole... Its automatic with triptronic in it so maybe when I was switching from triptronic back to automatic it hit a pot hole and something messed up then? I dont believe I have an ecutek license unless its part of the car? I checked google for an ecutek tuner and I found one that works for subaru in georgetown... thats the closest one to me...
The other person I was refered to by JRP auto was a guy named sasha who works for onpointdyno.com
Im not to sure what the flash count is or what that means or base map lol
thanks for all your help guys!

rmdrag0n 03-02-2014 01:50 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/dto_g...ehicle_id=2609

I uploaded some pics of the car and one of the engine bay cant figure out how to post it directly to this forum but its on here under my cars profile


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