I'm thinking about going Motec for my turbo install...
 

Is anyone else thinking of going Motec with their FI setup? (Or already have?)

Here's a post I put up the other day from my tuner, that has some videos explaining what the Motec package does.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...62#post1539962

If money were no object id be all over it just because I'm a nerd and it would enable me to nerd out just a little bit harder. Realistically though, there's very little there to justify the cost over racerom. Not saying it isn't awesome, because it is. It's just not 'more awesome' enough to justify the cost.

Sequential gearbox ignition cut! I'm sold.

I'm annoyed I'm already ecutek

Just like on other subaru platforms the OEM ecu is plenty powerful when combined with stuff like racerom and CobbAPs.
Unless you are building some crazy 700+whp car I wouldn't be to annoyed

I'm almost at a point of accepting my gt86 will become a track car one day.

This ecu just allows for that fact.

My street cars always turn into track cars. I try and set boundarys. I fail everytime.

Just ask yourself 'what can it do that racerom can't?', then try to put a value in that. If that value is more than the cost of the motec, it's a win.

Im certain the motec sticker will attract the honeys.

lol... Shit I can think of way better things then a BRZ with a motec to pick up chicks with lol

i dont understand what this is about, there is tons of information about this ecu out here already, and in specifically the 86 platform, Just cuz there is some clown posting youtube videos explaining shit we already know doesn't need another thread about it.

An 86 with a Motec sticker!

you want one? I have plenty.

I found the videos helpful.

Clearly we aren't all as knowledgable as you, guy.

It's not that OEM options can't make the power, that's the easy part. People always overlook how valuable good control systems are. The real value in an ecu like this are the extra features and I/O's.

Every channel can be controlled by multiple inputs, you can make custom tables for things like active aero, traction control based on what turn you're in, etc.

The first car I ever owned (that I did anything to) had an AEM. The next one had a MoTeC M800 and I will NEVER run a lesser ecu again. Our shop FR-S will have an M1 as soon as we do a base tune on the stock ECU.

You also have to look at it as a long term investment. I've used the same ECU on a dozen cars. If you buy ECUTEK and sell the car that's money you'll never get back.

Come on, active aero? Really? On a $26k car? Like I said I don't doubt it's awesome, I'd love to play with it. I just doubt that much of that stuff is really useful for the average guy on his way to the grocery store.

The market is there, it's just a small fraction of 1% of us. The thing costs damn near 20% of what the car costs lol.

I'd pay $5k for a solenoid to pop up a sign that says "Yes its green" when I come to a stop.

Our paypal is ben@carolinadyno.com ;)

We can even have it say it out loud for that much lol

i need one that detects when a cop singles you out in a pack of cars and gives you a ticket. "im doing you a favor by lessing the charge for speeding" and I want thr car to respond "cool story bro, haters gonna hate"

ill be going with motec in my setup. IMO its cheap for what you get and i can also use it on any of my other cars now or in the future. I'm so used to live tuning now i cant do without it

correct me if i'm wrong but the M150 is non transferable to another platform...

The M150 isn't specific to the twins. The main reason it's good is because it's so advanced and it has a wiring harness that plugs right into the factory harness.


Much like the M800? (can't remember) was to the WRX IIRC with being "plug and play."


AEM makes plug and play stuff too, the big difference is the way MoTeC does it allows the ECU's to be used on just about any platform so long as it's powerful enough and has enough outputs for your needs. Though I remember there being ways to expand and add more outputs. It's really a whole different ballgame. Wickedly expensive, but from the people I've known and talked to about them, their customer support is outstanding and the tools are really powerful (and FREE, go download and play with the software).

the M150 uses a plugin adapter on the 86, if you want to use it on something else you just update the software package on the ECU, wire whatever other engine you want to run to suit the AMP plugs on the motec (or make a plugin adapter from a fields loom etc), configure the ECU and away you go.


It's not like their old M800 board-level plugin's that fit into the factory case.


For the versatility and power of the platform, I don't think it's expensive at all especially when you can take it with you on future projects for many years to come.

I'm installing my Motec tomorrow. For me it was a matter of not trusting the local ecutek master tuners and getting burnt with remote tuning. So the options were sending my car to the other side of the country, finding another way of tuning (brz edit, open flash etc) or going with the motec or a haltech. The motec/haltech gave me the options of taking the car to the best tuners locally without them having to learn a new a new tuning system. Motec won out over haltech because Australian company with local support and dealers I trust.

Regardless of the product used to tune the car, the tuner still needs to be familiar with tuning a port/direct injection engine setup and the FA20 is one of very few with it currently.

C'mon @AEM hurry up w the infinity

Obviously, and that's another struggle at the moment as it's so unfamiliar to most tuners. Another reason that I chose the Motec is the way they have handled this, with a control table specifically to handle the DI/PI balance.

My tuner is a motec specialist who was able to get his hands on a map from another AVO turbo car that was tuned by motec. So we have a good starting point to refine from.

Yeah, it's a bit of a no brainer to go with MoTeC if you're in Australia :)

So some of you want to buy an 5-8 thousand dollar ECU ?

If you're trying to highly develop your car then this is it, if you're just turbocharging the car and that's all you're doing. Then it's really a waste, especially if you're doing it for 1 or 2 features. As for gear shift ignition cut, all the popular brands can do this, but don't think your transmission will accept the abuse.

Great first post. Always good to see new members with factual information to contribute. :clap:


Our m150 cost $3500 NZD.

Admitidly there's next to no forum fame from it.

Should've got some BC's, 12kg wheels, and plasti dipped the badges.

Because they're actual performance modifications.

Don't be too rough on them, the motec is stupidly expensive once you get out of Australia/NZ. Just have a look at the price on FBM's webpage. They want $1000 for the plug and play harness alone.
I think I did the whole thing including optional extras like egt, lambda to cam control, boost control and a custom wiring harness for less than they're charging just for the ECU/86 license.