frs or camaro
 

So I've been tossing up the idea of getting a new vehicle. My first choice was just upgrade from my v6 to a v8 camaro.
Last year when I see the commercial for it I decided I needed to have an frs. What are some onions. Should I stick with my camaro or go for an frs.
My price range is about 25k and I can get a brand new one for that.
How do these things handle and drive?
The nearest one is a decent ways away so I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to take the top to dive it.

All I know is the windows in the backseats in both of these cars suck. It's like an extra blind spot.

they're so different its stupid...

frs or camaro
 

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Probably more constructive than the outcome of this thread...


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If you want straight line power stock, then stay with camaro. If you want something that handles the turns and is "FUN" to drive, then a FRS. They're entirely different cars built for different purposes all together. Go take some test drives is the best place to start. :)

No one can possibly tell you that.

We cannot tell you what your favorite ice cream is, nor who will be your best girlfriend.

Power is fun; power is addictive. A V-8 Camaro/Mustang will give you that. Fun cars.

The BRZ/FR-S is more about handling and agility. It is very lightweight and nimble. It, too, is a lot of fun. But powerful?

No.

Sure.

You'll never know if you don't try it, right? Go drive one; it'll be fun and you'll learn some things.

Come back and share what you learned. :)

C'mon guys we can be more helpful than that. I do suggest you do a bit of research before posting. If you had taken a look at the Chevy website you would have seen that the starting price for a V8 Camaro is nearly $35k. You're probably not going to negotiate that down to the $25k region. If you can stretch your budget to that extent, then you have to decide do I want heavy and fast or light and fun.

The way I see it is: a tuner car that you can mod to make it fast and to your personal tastes or a more powerful car that doesn't have such a strong aftermarket backup.

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Well, HELLO @failingpig from Joplin ..... and ..
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As suggested, I'd recommend that you go drive a FR-S or a BRZ. I see where Frank Fletcher has a few FR-Ss in stock.

I reckon after a test drive ...... the answer will be clear to you (whatever that may be).

After your test drive, come on back and we can further discuss.....:)


humfrz

I would think a camaro would have more aftermarket support than a BRZ/FR-S. I will admit that I haven't looked into it though - that's just an off the cuff guess.

You're in luck! I'm in KS...not too far from you! If you go FRS / BRZ you must purchase all season tires IMMEDIATELY! (you know what our Winter was like!...I hope it is over) The oem Michelins become bricks at approximately 34 degrees.

I've never driven a Camaro, so I cannot comment. As for the FRS/BRZ, If power and speed is your aim then this is not a car for you....unless you have FI $$! I'm sure a Camaro is more thirsty than a FRS/BRZ, so good luck in staying out of the throttle on a car with above 200 hp....I could not!

I'm 44 and not a drag racer, I ride a crotch rocket, so my needs are met that way! If power is not your pure motivation, then go FRS/BRZ! God speed!

I would think the Camaro is mostly supported in the US while the BRZ/FR-S is supported by the import scene worlwide..

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Are you kidding? There is so much support for the lsx it's rediculous. Suspension, motor, aesthetics....

I knew ls were supported, just didn't knew they were more than Japan's new baby

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If you're expecting something as fast as your Camaro you'll be disappointed. The mileage is better on the FR-S. Going fast in a straight line is not the FR-S's strong suit. If you like twisties and curves go FR-S as a lot of Camaro owners feel their cars handle like fast school buses. The interior in the FR-S doesn't have that antique retro look so many people like in the Camaro (meh). The Camaro is like the Camry -everybody has one (don't feel unique unless you have the Transformers edition or the SS). Both will leave you stuck in the snow with rear wheel drive. I would expect the FR-S to be more reliable (but if you're like some whiny nit pickers here the occasional squeaks and crickets will torment you). With a Camaro you'll earn the love and respect of American muscle car fans but just be the flavor of the month amongst the import tuner crowd with the FR-S (comes with the territory, people get tired of them and sell them off in a couple of years then once poor rice boys can afford them in the secondary market they "mod" them into hideous monstrosities).

The FRS is a scalpel, the v8 camaro's a butcher's knife.

Honestly, if he asks for an opinion go ahead and give him it. He didn't want a bunch of wise @$$'s saying that they can't tell him what his favorite ice cream is, or telling him the thread is stupid. The man asked a question and if you guys don't know then don't tell.


I have never driven a Camaro, the reviews I have seen told me that the visibility is that of a tank and that the manual shifter is pretty crude so I didn't bother. But it seems that the Camaro is a Muscle car and the FR-S is a sports car.


The difference is quite plain, the Camaro will be better for highway cruising and is faster. If your drives include corners that you would enjoy carving out then the FR-S has superior suspension, steering feel, shifter ect. But if you drive it like a normal car then Camaro would be my recommendation, if your a hooligan FR-S.

If you like fat chicks, get the Camaro. It's that simple.

In any situation where a person would consider between these two cars, the Camaro would have to be the choice.

honestly, Camaro. you americans love your V8's.

I'm sorry @Pegasus ...... I'm in ornery mode (jest ah messen wich ya ...:D)


humfrz

If you like going fast, don't drive 100 miles plus daily like me, and don't hit up twisty roads at every opportunity, then I would go for the camaro. V8 power with stupid easy power to get out of the motor. I love my frs, but if it wasn't for my needs in a daily driver, I wold have picked another mustang or possibly the camaro...

As a person who almost bought a Camaro after renting one on vaca, I strongly suggest you take a very long test drive and see if its what you want.
I picked the FRS because I did not want the gas mileage of a V8 or the 22" tire cost. The alternative was a V6, which you have. Its faster and handles as well according to most tests I've read. On the one hand, the FRS is super fun. On the other hand V8s are super fun.
Frankly if a V8 is in your price range, whats stopping you. You'll get brembo brakes.


Keep the V6 and buy a used FRS.


People have said these cars are so different. I don't see them as so different. I was shopping between these two myself.

the camaro is a brick that has to be overpowered to get it to move. your tires will spin and boys will be impressed.
the FRS is a basic lightweight sports car with handling as a priority.
Its low power, low grip sharp nimble handling make for uber fun at
real world speeds.
i cant even say camaro and frs in the same sentence.. just so different..

The FRS is a scalpel, the v8 camaro's a butcher's knife.

nice +1

And...wrong.

Honestly, I can't be sure. I did not consider a Camaro. I just thought if someone did, that's what they really want, and they would be happy with their choice.

I was trying to decide between a new FRS or a used Camaro SS. At the time I could get a new FRS for less than a 2yr old Camaro. Plus I could not find a dealer-certified 6mt Camaro anywhere remotely close to me. I studied both extensively for about a month and made a decision. ..and I made a great one at that.

just from reading the first post, i think OP would be much happier with a v8 camaro
its his first choice and he obviously want more straight line power

These cars just don't compare. Everyone above has given solid advice. You have to test drive each one and feel them out. Take your time and make an informed decision. We can't make that for you. I have driven a V8 Mustang, ridden in a V8 camaro, and a ZO6. The all were all torque monsters. I loved the 02 Z28 and the 02 ZO6. I am a sucker for 4 cylinder motors. Especially this platform with RWD. The 6 speed is what sold me on this car with other obvious reasons along side of that. Let us know what you decide.

Don't you?

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/

About the OP, until s/he drives both, there's little to say. It's one of those self-evident truths obvious to most who drive the FR-S and understand the concept. There's a reason the car has received more awards from the international automotive press than any other car in history.

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This is a strange thread to make on an FRS enthusiast website.

I chose to ignore the Camaro at first and I begun to regret it. 3 months later, I took the opportunity to test drive the RS and SS models only to find out I had made the right choice purchasing an FR-S in the first place.

The best way I can describe those two vehicles, is to compare them to a set of floating bricks. One slightly faster than the other.

Adding to that, the salesmen at the Chevy dealership were at awe seeing my car pull into the lot. I spent more time talking to them about my car than they did about the cars they were trying to sell me. Several of them even suggested why I'd consider trading my car for a Camaro in the first place. Half didn't know what a boxer engine was.

To say the least, I drove back home in my FR-S with a smile on my face.

Ive built a few chevy cars in my day and was in a similar situation when looking for a new car. It was either a v8 camero with an exhaust and a cam or my frs with wheels, tires, fullblown motorsports gtx turbo and full exhaust. Both would be the same price at the end of the day after parts. My frs will be more fun and have more hp to weight. Corners, drifts and puts a smile on my face. LS motors are great but I'm starting to realize there's a lot more to a car that excites me. Like light weight and responsiveness.
But stock against stock the frs is nimble and fun to ravage with its low stock hp where as the camero is more fun in a straight line with its superior hp. Hope that helps.

I have no camaro experience in the last 20 years (other than I kinda like the current green color). Didn't want a car that heavy, although I'm sure I would enjoy it if I had one.

Aside from that, I tend towards Japanese cars because:

1: They seem to make a lot of cars I like (light and high revving);

2: I've owned a lot of Japanese cars and MX bikes and generally had good experiences across the board; and

3: My father in law has been the best transmission mechanic in our area for 25+ years (I say that because the local dealers send him the issues their mechanics can't solve). He's a huge NASCAR fan, used to build his own dirt track modifieds to race - a 460 motor in the last one... both of which would make you think he's a Ford or Chevy or Dodge guy. Not.

A typical conversation in his shop is about how American car companies often design their cars to fail (although he is coming around on Ford's stuff in recent couple years). He typically speaks highly of Toyota, Honda, Subaru and even Nissan and Mazda designs. He's inside the trannys (and motors on occasion) of all brands on a regular basis and has shown me the internals and how/why they break on numerous occasions.

Frankly, a lot of the American designs he has shown me do appear to be designed to break (he describes them as designed to break at 100k... unless they're some of the Dodge/Chrysler products... in which case he sees them as early as 40k on multiple occasions). A particular, common GM transmission (I can't recall the model) has the same exact part break every time... and they keep making it the same year after year after year... and he keeps fixing it year after year after year... and thanking GM for keeping him in business. LOL.

Another thing he points out is how a company like Honda/Toyota will use 3 bolts to hold a panel on where GM might use 1 or 2...

It is what it is - one man's opinion. But having been around his shop a lot over the years, what I've seen is that the difference in quality and design between the American stuff and the Japanese stuff is obvious.

At any rate, he now races the east coast shifter kart series (which he won a couple years back). What engine does he run when he's going 125 mph 3 inches off the ground? Honda CR125 (although I'd note that he uses a Rotax 250 twin if he wants to run 150-160 mph).

What did you call me, you insolent brat?

You know, kid, when you pair poor critical thinking and reasoning skills with bad manners ... this is what we get.

I framed the OP's question EXACTLY as he asked it. This is about PERSONAL PREFERENCES, not absolutes. I couched it in terms that might help him recognize WHY we might be unable to tell him what HE might PREFER.

We can only hope he is a wee bit smarter and better educated than you, hmmm?

Will you listen to this towering intellect.


No. It is not.

There are more different viewpoints in this world than you might imagine, sonny.

Lacking any insight into HIS personal PREFERENCES, we are unable to tell him which of the two perfectly good choices would better suit HIM.

No. It will not.

Not for me it won't, nor for many others, but AGAIN you draw the not-so-bright conclusion that YOUR PREFERENCES are to be made general and applicable to everyone, and become universal truths.

No. The Camaro is NOT faster.

Try chasing me down a winding road with the Camaro. Your crash may make the evening news.

To YOU, maybe.

You STILL don't understand, do you?

Because YOU say so?

Are you going to spend the rest of your life confusing your personal preferences with universal truths?

Intellectual intolerance is a sign of a poor intellect and a poor education.

Have you understood a word that I've written?

Never, mind. Don't answer that.

That will be all.

DANG!, @Porsche ..... you can put the belt down and let him out of the woodshed now ...... :popcorn:


humfrz

My vote is give him a good beating :paddle::paddle:

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humfrz

HAHAHAHA!!!