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twag4 02-17-2014 04:37 PM

Magnaflow catted/resonated front pipe
 
Magnaflow lists a replacement, direct fit cat for our cars. Thing is, it bolts in front to the overpipe, and in the rear to the midpipe. This makes it a front pipe i guess. Anyway, it has a high flow cat, and a resonator according to my email response from magnaflow. Cool, who knew? I know the nameless front/over is a great product, but this gives another option for somebody that may have already spent money on a different aftermarket overpipe. Part number is 51933 for 49 state version. It looks to be around $435 at some online retailers. I don"t know what msrp is, but it is reasonably priced for now. I've not seen a catted and resonated front pipe available outside of nameless, now that Perrin went green.

ATL BRZ 04-14-2014 10:39 PM

Bump. Does anyone have this front pipe? I'm searching for more pics besides this render...

http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/products/...flow_51933.jpg

I want a 2.5" catted AND resonated front pipe.

gramicci101 04-14-2014 10:51 PM

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/MagnaFlow-51933-Stainless-Catalytic-Converter/dp/B00AOKZB14/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397526407&sr=8-1&keywords=Magnaflow+51933"]Amazon[/ame] sells it for $435, prime eligible. They use the same rendered pic though. GIS doesn't turn up anything real either, it's all CGI.

I feel like any decent muffler shop that sells Magnaflow could whip one up for you. Probably for about the same or less money.

ATL BRZ 04-15-2014 09:44 AM

Hmm Amazon does have a pretty good return policy I'm just really suspicious since this has been available for a few months now and apparently nobody has bought it and no real pictures have surfaced.

akyp 04-15-2014 10:16 AM

I would like to know more about this as well, since the Nameless OP/DP combo won't fit RHD cars.

BCooke 04-15-2014 10:35 AM

I'm interested as well. I also just got a coupon for 25% off Magnaflow parts on amazon.

ATL BRZ 04-15-2014 10:46 AM

Found some more info on Autoplicity of all places.

http://i.imgur.com/1Kd8wIg.png

FR-S Matt 04-15-2014 10:55 AM

This doesn't look like one of their high flow cats? Then again like said above, I would need to see an actual picture and not a rendering.

gramicci101 04-15-2014 03:50 PM

Why would the cat go from a 2.25" pipe to a 2.5" pipe? Especially as a lot of aftermarket overpipes are 2.5", that seems like an unnecessary restriction to go back down to 2.25".

ATL BRZ 04-15-2014 05:24 PM

So I just decided to call Magnaflow and see what was up with their front pipe and the Tech Line Specialist was happy to send me some pics of the real thing installed.

http://i.imgur.com/66YDXUl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aljanA7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Pk0DOHK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ruECJB5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mXHtmpH.jpg


I also asked via email after receiving the pics if the cat was a high flow, and he said they do not advertise their cats as High Flow because they are made for emission purposes, but they will increase flow between 20-40% over an OEM.

What do you guys think?

gramicci101 04-15-2014 05:57 PM

Does Amazon's return policy cover used exhaust pipes in case you don't like it?

I'd be tempted. It's reasonably priced compared to other catted front pipes.

ATL BRZ 04-15-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1674608)
Does Amazon's return policy cover used exhaust pipes in case you don't like it?

I'd be tempted. It's reasonably priced compared to other catted front pipes.

I'm tempted as well. Amazon's customer service and returns have been great for me as a Prime member for a couple years, never had a complaint, and I do a lot of returns through them. I'm not sure what the specifics on a part like this would be, though. Usually they will take it back within 30 days no questions asked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCooke (Post 1673517)
I'm interested as well. I also just got a coupon for 25% off Magnaflow parts on amazon.

Could you share how you got that coupon?

BCooke 04-15-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1674618)
Could you share how you got that coupon?

I think I might've just gotten lucky. I got it via email from amazon this morning for "being someone who has shown an interest in exhaust parts and accessories".

twag4 04-15-2014 08:45 PM

You guys do know that nameless makes a standard front pipe only too. You can get it from them catted and resonated with a helmholz. It bolts to a standard overpipe. They call it their factory fit downpipe. With a helmholz resonator and 200 cell high flow cat it is $484.

ATL BRZ 04-15-2014 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twag4 (Post 1675084)
You guys do know that nameless makes a standard front pipe only too. You can get it from them catted and resonated with a helmholz. It bolts to a standard overpipe. They call it their factory fit downpipe. With a helmholz resonator and 200 cell high flow cat it is $484.

Yep, I'm well aware. I'm undecided between the two. The Magnaflow is ~$50 cheaper and sold through a wide variety of retailers (many of which offer discount coupons/sales) but there are no third party reviews, where the Nameless is more expensive and exclusively sold through Nameless but highly regarded. Both are stainless steel and offer factory fitment.

OICU812 04-15-2014 08:56 PM

My Lachute exhaust resonator on mid pipe and the actual canisters are Magnaflow and zero drone. So I can see this discussed piece being a good solution to taming down volume levels and likely for header folks eliminating rasp which for those that care is a win win. I'll be interested to hear results from folks as Headers is my next step while not wanting to increase annoying sounds and levels too much.

smbstyle 04-22-2014 02:03 PM

Looks like a pretty nice option; surprised there aren't more HFC front pipes with a resonator.

ramiram1984 04-22-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1674489)
So I just decided to call Magnaflow and see what was up with their front pipe and the Tech Line Specialist was happy to send me some pics of the real thing installed.

http://i.imgur.com/66YDXUl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aljanA7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Pk0DOHK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ruECJB5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mXHtmpH.jpg


I also asked via email after receiving the pics if the cat was a high flow, and he said they do not advertise their cats as High Flow because they are made for emission purposes, but they will increase flow between 20-40% over an OEM.

What do you guys think?

damn that's ugly.

smbstyle 04-22-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramiram1984 (Post 1689829)
damn that's ugly.

it looks like that was just spot/tack welds for the mock-up; not the finished product.

SirBrass 04-22-2014 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1675106)
Yep, I'm well aware. I'm undecided between the two. The Magnaflow is ~$50 cheaper and sold through a wide variety of retailers (many of which offer discount coupons/sales) but there are no third party reviews, where the Nameless is more expensive and exclusively sold through Nameless but highly regarded. Both are stainless steel and offer factory fitment.

I have the nameless op/fp combo (the 'replaces factory overpipe' downpipe) pipe and it's great. The hemholz does it's job well, and the cat is there for having a cat but not getting in the way of flow. It was a bit of a pain to install, b/c it's a single piece, so you HAVE to lift the engine to get it in (not a problem. Just unbolt the subframe-to-motor mount bolts, and jack up the engine. once the pipe is in position and on the hanger, lower the engine and screw the bolts back on.... easy. getting the op mated properly to the header is a bigger pain in the ass), but other than that it's a great piece. Doesn't have all the jagged sharp edges like the OEM stuff does, either.

Oh, and the single piece has one less area to develop an exhaust leak at!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramiram1984 (Post 1689829)
damn that's ugly.

Who cares? It's a non-visible component as far as aethetics go. As long as its properly welded and flows well, looks matter jack squat.

ATL BRZ 04-27-2014 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramiram1984 (Post 1689829)
damn that's ugly.


See below; strangely enough, no real pics of the production piece have surfaced yet.


Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle (Post 1689839)
it looks like that was just spot/tack welds for the mock-up; not the finished product.

Thanks for clarifying.

gramicci101 04-27-2014 11:33 PM

Drat. I was hoping this thread bump would be your review of it.

ATL BRZ 05-02-2014 03:38 PM

I just ordered it from Stillen for $380 shipped with promo code MAGEXH13. The $90 in savings over Amazon convinced me to pull the trigger on it.
I'll post some pics and if everything looks good I'll install and review it on the car. Stay tuned.

PITTFRS 05-04-2014 07:29 PM

watching

BRZ21 05-04-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PITTFRS (Post 1715394)
watching

Samsies

zoth 05-04-2014 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1711828)
I just ordered it from Stillen for $380 shipped with promo code MAGEXH13. The $90 in savings over Amazon convinced me to pull the trigger on it.
I'll post some pics and if everything looks good I'll install and review it on the car. Stay tuned.

Keep us updated :happyanim:

ATL BRZ 05-09-2014 11:39 PM

My front pipe arrived earlier today!

http://i.imgur.com/8qYFxNI.jpg

I posted several more detailed pics and gave my initial thoughts in my build thread.

Vmax911 05-10-2014 03:11 AM

Interested in your findings once the installation is done. I'm running the stock front pipe, and don't want it any louder. Please let us know any differences in sound.

ATL BRZ 05-10-2014 10:45 PM

Installed today!

http://i.imgur.com/nGoF5yY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gKVjf7L.jpg

Review and sound clips here

w0wbagger 11-05-2014 12:46 AM

Sadly your videos on youtube dont work anymore.
Would reupload them? I am quite interested in this frontpipe and would greatly appreciate a soundclip of it!

JohnJuan 11-05-2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1728795)

Wanted to make sure that you get a notification. Your YouTube links are broken.

ATL BRZ 11-05-2014 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnJuan (Post 2010982)
Wanted to make sure that you get a notification. Your YouTube links are broken.

I deleted the videos since I sold my MF front pipe and installed a different one. The MF is not a big difference in sound vs stock. Same tone, just barely louder.

DarkSunrise 11-05-2014 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0wbagger (Post 2010973)
Sadly your videos on youtube dont work anymore.
Would reupload them? I am quite interested in this frontpipe and would greatly appreciate a soundclip of it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnJuan (Post 2010982)
Wanted to make sure that you get a notification. Your YouTube links are broken.

As another data point, I recently put on this FP and am happy with it. Fitment was spot on. Sound is barely louder than stock. I'd guess it's probably the quietest aftermarket FP due to the large resonator and 400 cell cat.

Piping diameter was a bit smaller than expected, but not a big deal for me.

FirestormFRS 04-26-2015 10:31 PM

I can report that this does not fit with AT cars. The pipe hits the atf pan.

Thedishdoc 08-23-2017 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirestormFRS (Post 2227788)
I can report that this does not fit with AT cars. The pipe hits the atf pan.

Very good information to know. I have an AT.

Whoodoo 04-26-2018 07:43 PM

New member here. I just ordered one of these to hopefully quiet down the exhaust that came with the car when I bought it. I'll post again after install with an update.

I got this piece for a good deal if anyone was looking - hottexhaust.com is running a 25% off sale right now.

SuperTom 04-26-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whoodoo (Post 3078215)
New member here. I just ordered one of these to hopefully quiet down the exhaust that came with the car when I bought it. I'll post again after install with an update.

I got this piece for a good deal if anyone was looking - hottexhaust.com is running a 25% off sale right now.



If you could do me a huge favor and measure the inside diameter of both ends of the pipe before installing?? They says its 2.25" on the cat side and 2.5" on the back end. If that's true it would be a deal breaker for me. Ive been looking for catted/resonated options for a while the only other one is the JDL UQFP. Thanks in advance if you are able to do that.

Whoodoo 05-02-2018 10:48 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Sorry I didn't check back before installing it just a couple hours ago. I'll jack up the car tomorrow night and get an OD measurement at each end.

I took some sound measurements with my phone before and after (with the back seat down) and there was a 4 or 5 peak dB decrease in normal driving. I still got almost the same dB level at WOT, especially towards the top of the rev range, but that may be more due to the supercharger than the exhaust. I may still want to quiet the car down some more, but boy was this a huge improvement! Now there is no risk of getting 'blatty' even at larger throttle inputs. It used to be almost impossible to not let the car sound too loud in my neighborhood, but now I can just drive normally and things don't get out of hand.

Below are a couple before/after in-car videos.
https://youtu.be/ARwVSuIp7WQ
https://youtu.be/HmRpUmAGZYw


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