Needing coilover opinions
 

If you could buy fortune 500 coilovers for just a little more than BC coilovers, which would you buy? I'm faced with this dilemma at the moment. I can get fortunes for not even $200 more than the bcs. I'vE also heard that I need to set back around $150 for a part on the fortunes that doesn't just come with them like they do bcs so I may be paying too much more that way. My needs are to be lowered around 3". It's my daily driver so I want a really smooth ride. There's a slight possibility that I may pick up a cheap daily driver then track the frs so I am just trying to make the smartest decision here. Trying not to go over $1400 for coilovers and control arms. Any advice?

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And I am aware of dampening, spring rates, and all that stuff. I'm just needing a general opinion of which you find superior

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If you are daily driving your car, why not put some Tein coilovers on it?

I have Teins on my S14 and Tein's on our FR-S, and the ride / stance etc. is perfect for a daily driven car. I suggest PM'ing @CSGMike or one of the other helpful vendors on this forum for more information about which coilovers fit your needs

Nick C.

How low is your frs? I'm trying to be around 3". I know that bcs ride good for lowered/ stanced so I'm unsure about the tein. I have tein springs right now that it's lowered on. I live in Alabama and the roads are TERRIBLE so the ride is very important. And also back to the fact that I may change dailys and Track the frs so I would like to have good coilovers and not have to keep changing

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I don't think street basics have camber plates either. I need at least 2 degrees of camber front and back so I have to have camber plates

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One of my co-workers is lowered on BC coils and the ride is pretty harsh compared to our FR-S. You can always buy different mounts for the camber adjustment IIRC.

I'm not sure how low we have ours set, but I always recommend Tein's for daily driven cars

Nick C.

I doubt you're going to get a "really smooth ride" with a 3" drop on coilovers under $1400 minus whatever you spend on LCA's.

That being said, I've heard good things about RSR Black-i coils for extreme lowering + street comfort. Above your price point, but not by much.

From what I'm seeing on their website those don't even lower two inches

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Not sure where you're reading but they're designed for 55 mm drops and can go up to 80mm (with supporting mods), as discussed here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49980

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This is on their website for these coil overs for frs. Maybe I'm looking at this wrong I have no idea to be honest

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Those are for the sports-i, not the black-i.

Black-i is:

• Monotube & Hand Assembled
• Made & Designed in Japan
• Spring Rate (Front) : 7k
• Spring Rate (Rear) : 7k
• Height Drop Max (Front) : -80mm (-3")
• Height Drop Max (Rear) : -105mm (-4")

Oh cool well thank u

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I'm getting ST's. I was gonna cant Fortune but I just daily drive my car so I don't need it to be real stiff.

id go with the fortune autos. they were my first choice but want to see how the sbd coilovers are. set up right they rode damn well on my last car.

Slightly off the main topic, but if you're going to slam it 3" it's going to handle like garbage unless you add a bunch more parts to correct the geometry.

You're going to need to fix the roll centers, bump steer and camber all around (plus toe links out back if you get LCA's to fix the camber).

Have a look at what Robispec did to his to get it that low without ruining the geometry.

Yeahhhhhhh lowering 3" and handling well + track should not be in the same sentence. You will need to fix A LOT to even be anywhere near that...

From what you listed, I would say FA, but since you're slamming..... I would choose BC, specifically the BC extreme low. It's going to ride rough that low, especially in that budget. Just being honest.

And in regards to the FAs, what is $150 that it doesn't just come with? They come with camber plates for the front and the thrust bearings are only $80 max.

Radial Bearing mounts is what they dont come with. I will be doing other things to correct the geometry. I think there is a mild misunderstanding in this thread about my expectations. I am not expecting the ride of a cadillac on a slammed FRS. I simply wanted to know the preferrence between bcs or fortunes, or if there is something in that general price range that is better.

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if you were aware of these things, you wouldn't be asking your initial question.

you want the cake, you want to eat it, and you want it for cheap as well.

your goals of a good handling (grip wise), you want comfort (terrible roads), you want the car lowered by 3 (three!!) inches.... and all this for minimal investment

just ain't gonna happen.

My initial question was fortunes or bcs. Didnt think that was too difficult to answer. I specified what I intend on doing to my car to skip all the interrogating questions I knew I would eventually receive. But as stated, preferences of bc or fortunes was clearly my question.

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in your case it really doesn't matter, if you're set on getting either coilover thinking they'll match your goals then just get whichever is cheaper.


neither will actually satisfy all your requirements.