Different accelerator pedals: production vs pre-production?
 

I've seen two different types of accelerator pedals used on the 86/BRZ twins. My guess is that the type shown in the first picture is the type found on pre-production cars, and the latter is the production spec.

This is the accelerator found on the UK-spec Toyota GT-86, at least according to Toyota.co.uk:

http://www.toyota.co.uk/bv/CC2/GT86/...86-5-exlrg.jpg

However, if you look at the accelerator pedal on Pekingduck's production FR-S, he has a different, less-sporty kind:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1335915218

The same is true for the BRZ. If you look at this picture from what I assume is a preproduction BRZ, you can see the same accelerator pedal as the one in the GT-86 above:

http://image.motortrend.com/f/358645...Z-interior.jpg

But this image shows the newer type:

http://monkeymagic86.files.wordpress...7757-kopie.jpg

Does anyone know what's going on here?

two words: unintended acceleration... :lol:

We got hosed, Tommy! We got hosed!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../c/c4/Blah.jpg

That was my guess as well, but looking at how the carpet mats are cut there is no way for it to interfere with the pedals. The car also features brake override, so if the brake is pressed after the accelerator pedal has been pressed the throttle will be cut, so that doesn't make sense, either. I still think it does have something to do with unintended acceleration though; perhaps Toyota feared that the brake and gas weren't spaced far enough apart with the pre-production pedal since it has that little extension on the bottom left.

I pointed this out earlier, and if you Look on the Subaru and Scion Websites, you will find that they indeed have different pedals. The BRZs have the diagonal Heel-Toeing Pedal and the FRS' have a different pedal that is slightly curved to the left...

Have you seen the heel-toe pedal in the US? I haven't seen it on any US BRZs yet.

Edit. Just checked the photos on Subaru.com and it is there... interesting. Maybe it's limited only? It does say pre-production model shown though.

I believe most of the stock photos online are pre-production models though.

The "newer" type pedals (2nd set of pics) look identical to the ones in the current WRX/STI. I'm guessing they'll be using those since they already have them in the parts bin.

As far as I can tell, Japan / possibly overseas is getting the larger pedal and North America isn't, but it was shown in pre-production photos before the final North American-spec was finalized and/or they were European photos that were "modified" to North American-spec and the pedal wasn't changed.

Jeff

I was able to HT easily with the reps car I sat in. I didn't check which pedals they were but whatever they were felt great.

But on the website (Scion's at least) has a section dedicated to 'Sport Pedals' and shows a picture of the pedals. I doubt they would show Pre Production stuff in that...

Good catch. Those pedals match up to Pekingduck's production model.

Scion's website has the bigger gas pedal shown in the floor mate picture, but not in the sport pedals picture.

The link of the floor mate picutre is in my old post:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...041#post173041


I think the floor mate picture is from a pre-production model though.

I think we already have our answer... pre-production spec pedals did not make it. The existing ones look the same as what has been in the WRX since 2002, which isn't a bad thing. At least they didn't cheap out and not include the aluminum dead pedal, which was the case with the 2002-? WRX.

Ugh, something else to buy... lol

But unless you have a size 5 shoe, I don't think that you'd need to buy a bigger pedal.

I want my frameless rear view mirror!!!!!

I want my Toyota 86!!! lol

If my BRZ comes with the regular STI pedal, I'll be disappointed. Unfortunately, I can certainly see Subaru doing that to save money on the US models. :(

Here's a picture of the preprod pedals I saw on WRB Limited that visited my local dealer:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6...9f8d00d7_b.jpg

My BRZ has the smaller pedal. I find it very hard to heal and toe, I wish it came with this pedal

It's not just USDM models. They stopped it for Japan too, because of concerns over unintended acceleration.

need to get some company to make these. i would be down for one

Is it possible to get this pedal? Or are we stuck with Cusco or SRP?

:popcorn:

I would like that preproduction acceleration pedal too.

I would too. Of all of the cars I've owned this is the only one I can't use the side of my foot to heel/toe. That boggles my mind. Guess I need to do some shopping.

I bought the Cusco pedal, and it's a huge improvement.

The pedal in that pick would look better, though.

I'm not above changing ALL of the pedals if necessary. I'll check out the Cuscos. :cheers:

Neoplot makes one that's pretty close, but the price is a bit crazy...

I love this quote:

Neoplot is a company that based its concept on “car experience”, “pleasant” & “beautiful”. Products are very basic and developed with feelings toward beauty. Product material, precision, design, durability and feeling are top priorities.

I'd love to stomp the shit out of that pedal while considering the pleasant and beautiful car experience I was getting.