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Performance Parts Canada. Where and Who?
I just can't seem to find any performance parts that are decently priced in Canada. Everything for the most part is price gouged (like with nearly everything in Canada).
So, where can I order some performance brake pads, lines, and rotors in Canada without being ripped off? I don't mind paying a few bucks extra compared to our American friends but I absolutely will not give into the price gouging just because it's Canadian. Anybody know of any good vendors? Online Canadian vendors? ...or is it best to just shop south of the border? |
Unfortunately it isn't price gouging, it's costs. As I write this, the Canadian dollar is worth 90.7 cents USD. There's also the cost of shipping it in from the states to the distributor/retailer here, as well as duties and possibly brokerage.
It's unfortunate but it isn't a thought-out plan to screw the Canadian consumer. That being said, I've been ordering from Exoparts. They're a distributor rather than a shop, located in Mississauga. You can't go check out a show room or get work done on your car, but you can call to get a price. They carry just about everything made by a major company. |
You could try Northern Performance in Burlington, ON. I bought my Weathertechs from them. As far as I know, they don't really have an online catalogue, so you have to do everything over the phone.
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It is even gouging? Yes the initial prices seem high but once you pay for shipping and duty are you really saving any money getting something from the states?
My buddy just bought an intake for his focus ST from the states because it was $75 cheaper than he could get it in Canada. Then UPS decided to charge him $138 in duty/brokerage. Granted that's not how it works out every time, but by the time it got into his hands he ended up paying more and waiting longer than if he had just bought it local. When you factor in the weak Canadian dollar and the much smaller markets the local dealers are working with, it's not surprising that their prices don't seem competitive to the states. |
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Just a REALLY quick look without shopping around at all. Springs: US -> $375 http://ft86speedfactory.com/swift-sp...s-frs-785.html Canadian -> $374.58 http://www.tougetuning.com/store/swi...1179_1203_1209 Lines: US -> $119.98 http://ft86speedfactory.com/stoptech...lines-531.html Canadian -> $121.05 http://www.tougetuning.com/store/sto...1179_1185_1187 and http://www.tougetuning.com/store/sto...1179_1185_1187 Front Pads: US -> $149.02 http://ft86speedfactory.com/ferodo-d...front-767.html Canadian -> $149.60 http://www.tougetuning.com/store/fer...1179_1185_1188 Rear Pads: US -> $150.10 http://ft86speedfactory.com/ferodo-d...-rear-768.html Canadian -> $149.60 http://www.tougetuning.com/store/fer...1179_1185_1188 Total: US -> $794.10 USD = $874.70 CDN + shipping, duty, brokerage. Canadian -> $794.83 CDN with taxes = $898.16 total. The exact same parts are only $23.46 more before you pay for shipping and duty/brokerage. I guarantee you're not getting that order shipped for less than $25, nevermind the duty/brokerage. Chris at TougeTuning has consistently good prices, as do other vendors (JRP, Teknotik, NextMod, etc, etc, etc), I chose to single out FT86SpeedFactory and TougeTuning simply because both have easy to use websites with clear pricing online. If anything, ordering from the US is going to result in you getting gouged way worse than buying locally. |
He shipped with UPS... Pretty much says it all. Whenever I buy items from the States, I only request for USPS or FedEx if the item is large. I've been hit with the all too familiar $100+ "brokerage... *cough* scamming" fee before so no more UPS for me.
More times than not, you usually end up saving a few bucks from south of the border even after all taxes, duties, and shipping is concerned. But I like convienence and will surely pay a bit extra. Just not ridiculously more as it always seems the case. |
Add BRZ world clubstore too
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Mainly looking for a set of track pads, rotors, and lines to do some hpde this summer. Was looking at the StopTech stage 1 kit for like $550usd. 4 rotors, all pads, and lines. |
Here's a prime example of what I'm talking about...
DBA t3 4000 rotors $244.30 usd http://ft86speedfactory.com/dba-fron...rotor-170.html $374.21 cad. http://www.tougetuning.com/store/dba...1179_1185_1189 |
Almost $1000 for a pair of front dba 5000 rotors... Lol.
http://www.tougetuning.com/store/dba...1179_1185_1189 For less than the price of those two rotors, I could already get a bbk kit from one of the US vendors on this forum. I'm still calling price gouging here... As stated earlier, our Canadian market is 1/10 the size of the US so we just don't have the outlets to shop at. I'm hoping to find Canadian retailer that is somewhat more fair on pricing. Like I said, I don't mind paying a bit extra but I also ain't gonna get took... |
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http://trueler.com/2010/11/24/self-c...brokerage-fee/ |
I don't know where you are in Canada, but I know a lot of the Montreal guys have been shipping their USA-bought parts to Freeport, just South of the border.
It's cheaper on shipping, and you just have to go get it. That being said, difference in pricing is largely due to the fact that we're (I think) 30-odd million, VS USA's 300 million people |
Don't waste your money on the DBA rotors. Just get betters pads and fluid and be done with it. More expensive rotors won't make you stop any faster or resist fade any more. Yes they're better if you're REALLY heating them up, but I bet that for most HDPE stuff you'll never come close to overheating good pads and fluid.
You can get a MC brace and braided lines if you want to improve pedal feel, but neither will help with fade or stopping distances either. IMO, I wouldn't get the StopTech pads either. They're quite mild in the big picture and might not be a ton better than stock on a track. |
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Yea, the StopTech pads are really mild from what I've been searching- but their rotors and lines are fine. I think I'm going to settle for some nice quality blank rotors, Ferodo ds2500 front pads, and lines all around. The DBA T3 4000 rotors look bad ass but might be overkill. The rear stuff should be fine leaving them OE for what I'm going to be doing. Thanks for posting up tougetuning. I can't find any other performance part retailers for the life of me! |
Don't mix pad compounds front/rear unless you REALLY know what you're doing. If you're going to get different front pads, get matching rear pads. Messing up the balance can cause the EBFD to do funky things at bad times.
For HDPE use there's simply no need to be swapping pads/rotors between street and track. You won't need pads that are so crazy you can't drive them on the street as well. I daily drive my Ferodo DS2500's and they're perfectly fine street and track. They're off the car for the winter, but that's simply because I don't need higher heat capacity in the winter. IMO, get a good dual purpose pad and don't mess around with swapping pads and rotors. If you really want to swap pads, get some Carbotech pads. The XP10's or XP8's are as aggressive as you'll need on the track, and the 1521's will be a good daily pad. Keeping both pads Carbotech's you won't need to swap rotors or re-bed the pads every time you swap them. IMO, all you need for what you're looking at doing is some better pads and fluid. Do the lines if you want to, but remember that they're less durable than OEM lines and need more frequent checking and replacement (every year or two). Until you're driving at a level where you need a really aggressive race pad there's no point in having two sets of pads/rotors. Something like the DS2500's or Project Mu HC+800's will be great for everything you need. |
Did you find a local vendor for those stoptech pads for a decent price?
I keep forgetting that I need to buy a set before this season starts, especially since I'm angling to get into some Time Attack events. EDIT: just noticed the link to the touge tuning site |
IMO, stay away from the stoptech pads unless you just want a better street pad. If you want something that'll handle Time Attack you need a more aggressive pad (and don't forget upgraded fluid!!).
If you do want the stoptech pads, JRP has them for a really good price. |
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You can try touge.ca. They can get you parts too. But I think I may just stick with tougetuning.ca. Anybody know of more outlets? |
JRP has been great to me, but their website sucks so you're stuck asking for prices on individual components.
I also like uniq performance, he has great price as well as a pretty good selection of parts. |
Any shops carry Eneos Sustina motor oil in the GTA?
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Do you have a better suggestion that'll still work on the street? I put Hawk HP+ pads on my old car once and it sounded more like I was trying to stop a train than a car. I had to swap them out after like 2 weeks. I'll probably do 6-10 auto-x and 1-3 time attacks and maybe 1 track day in a season. Not really looking for the ultimate track setup, the rest of my mods are definitely street oriented. |
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I spent a weekend at Mosport last summer and my brakes were fading. It would require quite a bit more pedal pressure to get them to slow the car and it wasn't confidence-inspiring. I went back a couple months later having changed to Stoptech pads and better fluid. I found the fading I experienced was gone.
I'm an intermediate track driver and wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Stoptechs aren't going enough for a faster pace, but they were certainly an improvement from stock. I'm glad I bought them. |
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Barrington has access to Eneos - It's where I get mine. Tell him SPYDER sent you. http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif CERBERUS |
I don't have FB dang! BTW where's Barrington?
I searched online and contacted a few shops within Scarborough and all they could get is the regular Eneos and not Sustina. |
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As for more places... Machine Motorsports JRP Touge Tuning NextMod Teknotik Uniq Performance In all honesty, just google the part you want with toronto and see what pops up, that's how I've found deals many times. Quote:
You're welcome to come for a drive in mine once the summer pads/wheels are back on anytime. I daily drive with DS2500's without issue. They have a very minor squeal the first couple stops when cold under light braking, but aren't offensive at all (my wife didn't notice the difference after the swap, and she HATES noisy brakes). The only put the stock pads back on because they wear less and are cheaper to replace, so why not run them all winter when I don't need higher heat capacity. Quote:
I'm definitely not a class winning driver, so a better driver running longer sessions might still cook these pads, but for my usage they're about perfect. Disclaimer to all, they dust A LOT. The dust wipes off easily with a wash mitt, sponge, etc, but there is a lot of it! |
With the stock pads I was using stock tires. When I went back with the Stoptechs I had upgraded to 245 Pilot Super Sports.
You're definitely right that the DS2500s are the way to go. I would have bought them but they're a fair bit more expensive. I gambled, hoping the budget Stoptechs would be good enough and so far they are. |
Very fair point too. You can get the StopTech front and rear for about the cost of the Ferodo fronts.
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Buddy you talk as if your the only person with an opinion. Get off the high horse... Smh. |
While you guys are arguing, I just wanted to say thanks guys for the recommandations for places to order parts. I had almost given up on finding parts at a reasonable price in Canada.
If you have more, go ahead! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk |
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There's no way it only takes 40 minutes total to swap out pads/rotors unless you're only counting the time from the car being in the air with the wheels already off. You don't have to go through all that for a pre track inspection, you can do everything with the wheels on easily. Quote:
Go see how many people running time attack or auto x events change out their pads between street and track use, it's a much smaller group than you would imagine. My whole point was that you don't NEED to be wasting time with swapping parts, there are great parts that will fit every need you have from them. If you enjoy swapping brake pads twice a weekend, then more power to you, but I would rather shoot myself than do that all summer. |
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=23680&page=7 I asked for Canadian performance shops to ease our shopping. You contributed. Thanks. Now stfu! |
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You come on asking questions, then get pissed off when people aren't swinging off your nuts. Get a clue. You're the one that thinks you know better, I'm just offering up real world experience which you don't have yet. |
Jesus, guys. Move on lol
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I'm not going to list off all the much higher end cars I've driven (and/or tracked), but this is definitely not the first sports car I've driven hard. That's irrelevant too since you're the one asking for where to buy parts and looking at list of parts that won't fit what you want them to do (front pads only, no mention of fluid, etc). Quote:
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Forgetting your show car background, have you ever tracked your cars? Have you talked to people that actually compete in autox or time attack to see what they do for brakes? All I was trying to do was steer you in the right direction because you were headed off the rails. Quote:
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Both of you guys chill, specially OP. If I get another report about this I'll lock this thread without hesitation.
Wparsons have gave a good info. What he have stated is an one option & a lot of driver who do autox & TA, often do this setup (me included). BUT that doesn't mean OP option isn't wrong. Just take hellova longer time, effort & money. Also when you do this setup, you need re-adjusting braking lvl (due to braking grib lvl changes than your normal braking) often you waste few laps instead of focusing on the course. My recommendation, get Winmax W2. Low dust, no noise & perform better than some of the top class pads. If you're serious about winning the title go with W3. Both can run in the street without any issues. |
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Are the Winmax pads available at a shop in canada or just online?
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