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wtf.bbq 05-05-2012 07:36 AM

Wheel Directory: Advan RG-D 18x8.0 +45
 
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Ran into this beautiful GT86 at Fuji Speedway yesterday.

One thing I found interesting was that both the front and rear fenders were rolled. Considering the specifications of the wheels and tires were not that aggressive I was rather surprised.

Anyways, I hope everyone enjoys the pictures. ;)

ZDan 05-05-2012 08:06 AM

Brakes are *lost* in there! Aside from that, looks sweet...

I'd sooner go with 225/50-16s on smaller, lighter wheels, though.

70NYD 05-05-2012 08:18 AM

Nice :)
Don't know if this still holds, but last time I checked the fenders were being rolled from factory ;)

STJ 05-05-2012 09:04 AM

Needs more offset you can still see the inside's of the fender!

wtf.bbq 05-05-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 201337)
Brakes are *lost* in there! Aside from that, looks sweet...

I'd sooner go with 225/50-16s on smaller, lighter wheels, though.

Agreed, I am personally looking at 16" and 17" wheels for my future FRS.

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Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 201342)
Nice :)
Don't know if this still holds, but last time I checked the fenders were being rolled from factory ;)

Thats really interesting and I hope its still true.

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Originally Posted by STJ (Post 201369)
Needs more offset you can still see the inside's of the fender!

Yea, its not flush but it still looks good. :)

Rampage 05-05-2012 09:52 AM

Normally not a fan of putting 18s on a car this small and light but that does look good. Of course the extra weight is going to hurt performance but if "looKs" is your thing then that is a good look.

Draco-REX 05-05-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 201387)
Normally not a fan of putting 18s on a car this small and light but that does look good. Of course the extra weight is going to hurt performance but if "looKs" is your thing then that is a good look.

There are plenty of 18" rims that are lighter than the stock 17".

fatoni 05-05-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 201430)
There are plenty of 18" rims that are lighter than the stock 17".

there are also plenty of 17" rims lighter than those 18" rims

Draco-REX 05-05-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 201457)
there are also plenty of 17" rims lighter than those 18" rims

Very true, but if someone wants 18s for the look, I wanted it to be clear that they didn't have to increase wheel weight.

Fussy08X 05-05-2012 01:44 PM

that looks amazing. those wheels are pretty sweet.

RearDrive 05-05-2012 02:10 PM

Yea they are defiently rolled from the factory. Looks awesome!

blu_ 05-05-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 201466)
Very true, but if someone wants 18s for the look, I wanted it to be clear that they didn't have to increase wheel weight.

Maybe, but until I see the tire weights Im not going to put a bet on it.

Draco-REX 05-05-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blu_ (Post 201541)
Maybe, but until I see the tire weights Im not going to put a bet on it.

Hankook R-S3
225/45-17 25"OD = 25lbs
225/40-18 25.1"OD= 23lbs
2lbs saved by going to a 18" rim

Dunlop Z1*
225/45-17 = 26lbs
225/40-18 = 25lbs
1lb saved

Hoosier A6:
225/45-17 = 21lbs
225/40-18 = 20lbs
1lbs saved

You're going to gain weight when you upgrade from the stock tires to better, grippier tires regardless. But it's possible to keep the overall weight close to stock.

ichitaka05 05-05-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 201555)
Hankook R-S3
225/45-17 25"OD = 25lbs
225/40-18 25.1"OD= 23lbs
2lbs saved by going to a 18" rim

Dunlop Z1*
225/45-17 = 26lbs
225/40-18 = 25lbs
1lb saved

Hoosier A6:
225/45-17 = 21lbs
225/40-18 = 20lbs
1lbs saved

You're going to gain weight when you upgrade from the stock tires to better, grippier tires regardless. But it's possible to keep the overall weight close to stock.

What's the weight of 215/45-17 for those tires? instead of 225/45-17?

2fast4you 05-05-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 201617)
What's the weight of 215/45-17 for those tires? instead of 225/45-17?

Hankook R-S3 = 22 lbs.

Dunlop Z1 = 23 lbs.

Hoosier A6 = N/A

civicdrivr 05-05-2012 04:40 PM

Stock tires = 20lbs according to Tire Rack
Stock wheels = 20.1lbs IIRC

Most tires Ive been looking at are ~23lbs per corner new, and the wheels I want are 15lbs (17x8). It may only be 2-3lbs per corner, but its rotating mass.

Draco-REX 05-05-2012 04:52 PM

The stock tires are 21lbs, stock rims are 20.1lbs.

So the stock wheel/tire combo is 41lbs. Going to a lighter rim will help with the increase in tire weight you'll get by going to a stickier tire with stiffer sidewalls.

That said, when it comes to performance the application will often have more impact on your wheel/tire choice than weight. But for a daily driver and weekend warrior, looking at weight will help maintain the acceleration and braking performance the car had from the factory.

Draco-REX 05-05-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 201652)
Stock tires = 20lbs according to Tire Rack
Stock wheels = 20.1lbs IIRC

Most tires Ive been looking at are ~23lbs per corner new, and the wheels I want are 15lbs (17x8). It may only be 2-3lbs per corner, but its rotating mass.

Ack! Get out of my head! ;)

ESBjiujitsu 05-05-2012 04:59 PM

love it but certainly think ill stick with 17s ...thanks for the post she is beautiful!

ichitaka05 05-05-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fast4you (Post 201635)
Hankook R-S3 = 22 lbs.

Dunlop Z1 = 23 lbs.

Hoosier A6 = N/A

Thanks for the info!

mines13 05-05-2012 06:13 PM

It is quite attractive.

tinnyms3 05-05-2012 07:23 PM

Wasn't considering 18s but this might change that... nice setup.

Staticfrost 05-05-2012 08:18 PM

WOULD 18 X 8 40+ look better? as in have a slightly less of the wheel well showing? Cause I am looking at enkei and they have 18x8 with 40+ instead of 45+.

Fortunate Few 05-05-2012 08:44 PM

needs to be a little more aggressive. Looks decent though.

Nardi330 05-05-2012 09:04 PM

The front seems ok, the rear definitely needs more offset.

I'd go 9+45 like most of the Rays size for 86/BRZ.

track_warrior 05-05-2012 09:47 PM

Looks Great but those brakes look tiny in there.

civicdrivr 05-05-2012 09:51 PM

It really sucks how most new cars suffer from "sunken rear wheel syndrome". If you run the same fitment all around, the rear always looks too small while the front is flush. I really dont want to run a staggered setup, but I do want to fill out the wheel wells nicely* :(




*Not hella-flush or hella-poke or any of that nonsense, just simply flush.

Cheddar 05-06-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 201842)
It really sucks how most new cars suffer from "sunken rear wheel syndrome". If you run the same fitment all around, the rear always looks too small while the front is flush. I really dont want to run a staggered setup, but I do want to fill out the wheel wells nicely* :(




*Not hella-flush or hella-poke or any of that nonsense, just simply flush.

Id run a 5mm spacer in the rear and call it a day.

Fortunate Few 05-06-2012 02:27 PM

10-15 mm and all it a year. :)

TuxedoCartman 05-06-2012 05:55 PM

To everyone who keeps saying it needs more offset: you do realize that that will tuck the wheel further up into the wheel well, right? Decreasing the offset will bring the wheels further out of the wheel well.

The guy who owns this car was a fool to go for that high of an offset on an 8 inch wide wheel. Stock wheels are 7 inches wide with an offset of +48. Widening the wheels by a whole inch, and only going down 3mm? I'd be really surprised if his tires aren't rubbing somewhere.

NESW20 05-06-2012 07:17 PM

probably the worst color combination ever... :D the 18s really look good on there. i'd like to see that wheel in a 17x8" size, just to compare. i don't mind a little sidewall.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25...3-120405-L.jpg

jkonquer 05-07-2012 10:11 PM

18x8.5 should be perfect on this car.
and yes RG series never look good with small brake. even sti's brembo didn't look right with RG's. wheel space looks so empty

just86 05-07-2012 10:28 PM

sick headlights, thats it! im not byying the scion until i get those headlights with it

chulooz 05-07-2012 10:53 PM

I agree with everyone about how small the brakes look at an initial glance; I dig those rims but the overall setup isnt doing it for me.

NESW20 05-07-2012 11:45 PM

maybe i'm the only one who doesn't *really* care what the brakes look like, as long as they stop the car well, lap after lap...

2fast4you 05-08-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 203794)
maybe i'm the only one who doesn't *really* care what the brakes look like, as long as they stop the car well, lap after lap...

You are not. However, better tires and lighter wheels will make more of an improvement over larger brakes... and the stock brakes are probably more than a car that size needs.

NESW20 05-08-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fast4you (Post 203840)
You are not. However, better tires and lighter wheels will make more of an improvement over larger brakes... and the stock brakes are probably more than a car that size needs.

haha, i know, was just like ":iono:" about how the brakes look in those wheels. they look like brakes. the brakes on my MR2 are smaller and still stop the car juuuuust fine, hehe.

86'd 05-08-2012 05:14 PM

Thanks to these pics the FRS might be the first red car I've ever owned.

jkonquer 05-08-2012 07:25 PM

Here is my old rgII setup on my sti. You get the idea of the wheel with brembo brakes. And its 17x8.5
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...r/100_3685.jpg

ZDan 05-08-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 203794)
maybe i'm the only one who doesn't *really* care what the brakes look like, as long as they stop the car well, lap after lap...

I'm fine with small brakes on a lowish-powered car. I'm sure these are appropriately sized. But bigger-diameter wheels with stock dinky brakes => form over function.

If you have enough power that you need big brakes, then you need bigger-diameter wheels to house them. Otherwise, bigger-diameter wheels are just for show. And if it's for show, small brakes inside big wheels don't look so hot...

So kind of a fail on both form-follows-function and on looks.


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