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Noob coming through...

New question:
Megan racing street coilovers or isis coilovers


Old question:
Sorry but i am new to autox. Im located in Wisconsin. I was wondering if anyone from around the area could help me. I was wondering what the modification restrictions were? I dont plan to do a full build. I guess ii just want to have fun without killing the bank. As of right now here is a list of my mods...

J2 front pipe and catback
Unichip
Drop in filter "zeta"
18in rims but from what ive been reading i need to be 17s
Sportline springs
Shiftech shortshifter
Subframe bushings
The usual tranny mount and rear shifter bushing
Megan front strut bar
Perrin brake brace
Megan diff support

Plz let me know what else i need to get started or what i have to take off.

here is a link to a web site that will help you figure out what class you car belongs in
with your modifications: DIY Classing

The site is a little out of date but it will give you a good start.
good luck and welcome to the insanity! :)

Welcome to the fun. If you are competitive and want to play to win you can start building the car to the STX ruleset. If you want to just run it as is and decide that is fine too, there is always a class to start in until you decide if you like it or not.

What club in Wisconsin do you plan on racing with?

Not sure yet. My buddy runs with wag. But I didn't see autox in their schedule. Still looking for a club. Help me out? Btw with the mods that I have I'm guessing I fall into stx?

I was thinking of stf stc or sts I don't know the difference. Lol sry. Can u explain? I wanna run but I'm not looking for trophies or anything

You are currently in Street Modified (SM). Street Modified is a class where Forced Induction can be added to cars that don't have it from the factory and allow boost pressures to be changed from factory settings in cars that do have it from the factory.

The Megan Diff support puts you in Street Modified (SM).

If you remove the Megan Diff support, you'll be in C Street Prepared (CSP) as a result of the Perrin Master Cylinder Brace.

If you remove the Megan Diff support and the Perrin Master Cylinder brace, provided your wheels are <= 9 in wide, you'll be in Street Touring eXtreme (STX).

well your car doesn't qualify for any of the 3 listed above.

STF is for for front wheel drive and STC is primarily for EF civics and couple other odd balls.

STS does not allow for any form of LSD so that rules you out of there since we all have the torsen.

17's would be more ideal due to the weight of the wheel and the gearing.

Thats for the clarification see i didnt know that any of those meant i have a list of mods allowed and i fell in that class but i had know idea what they meant lol. So what is stx str and stu then?

Did a lil research i would fall into stx or stu?

Our cars are most competitive in STX. Is your trans mount metal or poly?

STX is where the FRS is best classed in. I mean if you want to play with the "big boys" in STU and beat them with our restrictions then :respekt: to you.

there was this site that had a good breakdown of all the classes, but having a bit a trouble finding it

Perrin

I found the scca milwaukee site thats what im going off of

The FR-S is in STX, it isn't legal for STU as it isn't listed in STU. If a car isn't specifically listed in a Street, Street Touring, or Street Prepared classes, it isn't legal for that class.

Thanks for the clear up

No Problem, Did you notice my previous post where I indicated the two Items you have installed that bump you out of STX? By the way, this was from reading the rule book which isn't an easy read and can be confusing if you are not used to looking in it to determine the class of a vehicle.

No. I will look for it tho. Ive been up and down this autox forum looking for info on my Frs. which parts btw?

Not sure which two but im able to remove any of the parts

Perrin Master Cylinder Brace (CSP)
Megan Differential Support Bar (SM)

BTW, How wide are your wheels?

Lol found it so remove the diff brace and brake brace. Would i be able to put inserts in the diff or no?

18x8 f 18x9 rear. I think 17x8 f 17x9 rear might be a better setup right? Is there any restrictions on on offset?

What do you mean by inserts?

Do you have a picture of the Megan Racing Differential Support you have installed? The picture I found of it showed as a support bar. If they are just the bushings, they are legal for STX. How wide are your wheels?

Those are legal for STX.

I should have mentioned this earlier, but as a novice, don't worry so much about class. Also, don't worry about how other drivers are doing. Concentrate more on having fun and improving times. When you have some seat time, and a better clue as to where you want to be with your car, then worry about the class you are in.

That'll kick you out of the STX class and into Street Prepared (where we aren't competitive at all). I have the same one and will have to remove it if I do STX. I think the master cylinder brace is also illegal in STX - someone correct me if I'm wrong!

I agree with @knipple. In your novice season, you can run, depending on your region, as a Novice. Sometimes they'll class it (e.g. N-STX), but not always. Local clubs won't care about your mods as much. You can always run as non-compete and have a blast. If autox is for you, then start planning for a class later.

You're correct, it is illegal for STX.

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18x8 f. 18x9r

Thats kinda what im aiming for i just a good time. At the same time id like to build accordingly that way im not wasting time on mods i cant use if i ever want to get serious. Lots of good info on here i really appreciate it!

How do u guys feel about rpf1 17x8? Are there any restrictions on offset wheels?

If you build to STX, you can go to 9" wide wheels and 265mm wide tires. No restriction to offset. I currently run RPF-1 17 x 9 et +35 wheels with 255/40/17 Rivals.

Again, I wouldn't worry about trying to make the car faster as the car will not be the limiting factor initially. It will be the driver that is the limiting factor. So concentrate on becoming a faster driver prior to changing anything else on the car. I have seen on multiple occasions an experienced driver in a Prius on stock Prius tires beat a novice in a Corvette.

Thank you. That bar isn't legal in STX. The wheels are legal as they meet the wheel width requirements for the class. There are no limits to diameter for STX.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...%20reduced.pdf

14.4 WHEELS
Any wheels are allowed with widths up to the following
(OE wheels ex-
ceeding these maximums are not permitted)
:
STF, STC, STS, STR (AWD) – 7.5”
STX (AWD) – 8.0”
STX (2WD), STR (2WD) – 9.0”
STU – unlimited

So what do u recommend i focus on? Struts, coilovers or rims and tires? And i was thinking of running my stocks in front

I am sorry if I am confusing you with my answers.

As for what you should focus on, I would recommend you focus on improving as a driver and not modify your car anymore until you have gotten some experience behind the wheel.

Generally speaking, I have found that the other competitors are helpful, so don't hesitate to ask questions, and for rides with them.

So i should leave my car how it is and run it? Of course take off what is illegal

That's what I would recommend.

I'm from WI too. Here are some clubs in WI that you can run with.

Fun laid back group to run with. I've personally have gone to these events. Two of the guys that help run one of these clubs have gone to nationals. One took first and the other took 3rd. I believe in AWD street tire class?
http://www.cwscc.com/vb_forum/
http://www.fvscc.com/forum/index.php

Never ran with them, but heard there is some pretty good competition.
http://www.waiautox.org/
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/

http://www.madisonsportscarclub.com/

A facebook link to midwest events if you have Face Book. https://www.facebook.com/midwestautoevents?ref=hl