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Neekowahhhh 01-28-2014 06:28 PM

Clutch pedal loud squeak
 
Hey guys,

I'm sure this issue has probably been had by another person or two on here, so I wanted to ask around and see if anyone else can confirm.

I live in So-Cal, so the weather here is fairly warm. Most mornings lately its been about 70-75 degrees. The noise isn't present at start-up but is present after the car has been running for some time. It happens on occasion, as far as I can remember, and is heard from inside the cabin, as well as outside.

At first I thought it was the peddle spring, but when I examined the issue further, the sound could be heard outside the car as well.. as if it's coming from the engine bay. When I apply pressure to the peddle, it squeaks quite heavily, not like a fully blown out throttle bearing, but it does sound like some sort of spring or spring like motion coming from the transmission itself. I'm hoping to take it in this week, so we will see what happens, but I just wanted to get some feedback from you guys.


Update: Youtube link added of the sound coming from my car
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUTZj7VJB0I"]2013 Subaru BRZ Clutch squeak - YouTube[/ame]

Here is another video from a different person taken at a different angle. This person seems to be having the same issue.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW94DINwTGU"]Clutch pedal noise from my BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

Mongo 01-28-2014 08:39 PM

I have noticed this as well. I cant say Ive heard it this winter though. possibly something to do with ambient temperature?

Turbo95eg6 01-28-2014 08:45 PM

Sometimes pushing in my clutch feels "crunchy", not as fluid during warmup. I'm sure its with the motor shaking a bit more until the RPM's settle, and due cold temperatures. However I do notice a click when I push in the clutch.

Mustang88_357mag 01-28-2014 08:53 PM

Mine also has a squeak but it's only 1st 2nd and sometimes 3rd gear

tbertran 01-29-2014 12:12 AM

Same issue here.
Adjusting the clutch pedal height reduced the noise a little but now I have a "sticky" pedal issue so I'm picking my poison...

Sigh-on-Rice 01-29-2014 08:31 PM

I have this noise also. It started about a month ago. I have 17k miles and I picked the car up in June 2012.

Like you mentioned, it doesn't make the noise at first. So, I was hesitating to bring the car in because I thought they would check on it only for a few minutes and say they don't hear any noise.

DesertFrs 01-29-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neekowahhhh (Post 1487097)
Hey guys,

I'm sure this issue has probably been had by another person or two on here, so I wanted to ask around and see if anyone else can confirm.

I live in So-Cal, so the weather here is fairly warm. Most mornings lately its been about 70-75 degrees. The noise isn't present at start-up but is present after the car has been running for some time. It happens on occasion, as far as I can remember, and is heard from inside the cabin, as well as outside.

At first I thought it was the peddle spring, but when I examined the issue further, the sound could be heard outside the car as well.. as if it's coming from the engine bay. When I apply pressure to the peddle, it squeaks quite heavily, not like a fully blown out throttle bearing, but it does sound like some sort of spring or spring like motion coming from the transmission itself. I'm hoping to take it in this week, so we will see what happens, but I just wanted to get some feedback from you guys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongo (Post 1487403)
I have noticed this as well. I cant say Ive heard it this winter though. possibly something to do with ambient temperature?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 1487415)
Sometimes pushing in my clutch feels "crunchy", not as fluid during warmup. I'm sure its with the motor shaking a bit more until the RPM's settle, and due cold temperatures. However I do notice a click when I push in the clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang88_357mag (Post 1487435)
Mine also has a squeak but it's only 1st 2nd and sometimes 3rd gear

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbertran (Post 1487895)
Same issue here.
Adjusting the clutch pedal height reduced the noise a little but now I have a "sticky" pedal issue so I'm picking my poison...


From reading everyone's issue and it appearing to be similar. Their is a possibility that you Throwout Bearing is going out. Their was a thread started a few months back where someone melted their throwout bearing. (Old Thread Attached) http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52176

I've been having similar issues maybe a little bit worse but, was reduced after I adjusted the pedal (maybe to late). I will be taking the car over to @DAMotorsports within the next few weeks to have the transmission removed and inspected. While the Transmission is removed, @DAMotorsports will be installing a lightweight flywheel and Organic Clutch from @AVOturboworld. As I imagine I will be replacing the Throwout Bearing as I suspect the bearing being the issue. I will keep everyone posted and I will let you know!

DesertFRS

Hawaiian 01-29-2014 09:31 PM

Rather than my bearing going out, it was a dry shift fork. I took mine in for warranty and had it lubricated. It took about 30m and the sound went away.

brianhj 01-29-2014 10:10 PM

Does it almost sound like someone barely tapping their horn? This might have happened to me a few times today. I thought someone was honking at me. Not a full honk but like barely tapping. And then I started thinking maybe my clutch pedal made that sound. It was a really weird loud squeak sound. Not squeak like a mouse but deeper like a rusty gate opening or something. And it was very brief like a fraction of a second.

Hawaiian 01-29-2014 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianhj (Post 1490318)
Does it almost sound like someone barely tapping their horn? This might have happened to me a few times today. I thought someone was honking at me. Not a full honk but like barely tapping. And then I started thinking maybe my clutch pedal made that sound. It was a really weird loud squeak sound. Not squeak like a mouse but deeper like a rusty gate opening or something. And it was very brief like a fraction of a second.

The sound as best i could describe it is similar to those squeaky childrens sandals.

Dezoris 01-30-2014 01:05 AM

The throw out bearing in every car I have owned has made noise and depended highly on humidity and temperatures. My Civic almost always did it unless it was cold. Press and release. S2000 same but mostly release. Exige always did it when humid when releasing pedal. FRS does it usually only when hot for me, very pronounced in garage etc etc.

Bottom line unless it is causing an issue with clutch engagement or is getting very bad its one of those live with it items.

Neekowahhhh 01-30-2014 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianhj (Post 1490318)
Does it almost sound like someone barely tapping their horn? This might have happened to me a few times today. I thought someone was honking at me. Not a full honk but like barely tapping. And then I started thinking maybe my clutch pedal made that sound. It was a really weird loud squeak sound. Not squeak like a mouse but deeper like a rusty gate opening or something. And it was very brief like a fraction of a second.


This could be the start of it, although, mine does it every single time I use my clutch after its warmed up(could notice it 25 min into my 45 min drive to work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 1490438)
The sound as best i could describe it is similar to those squeaky childrens sandals.


To add to this, mine sounds like an unlubricated chain link fence gate being opened slowly or moved back and forth. I have a video of it, ill post the link once I upload it to my youtube account.

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1490672)
The throw out bearing in every car I have owned has made noise and depended highly on humidity and temperatures. My Civic almost always did it unless it was cold. Press and release. S2000 same but mostly release. Exige always did it when humid when releasing pedal. FRS does it usually only when hot for me, very pronounced in garage etc etc.

Bottom line unless it is causing an issue with clutch engagement or is getting very bad its one of those live with it items.

The reason I brought it to the attention was because if these clutches are faulty or deemed unsafe and subaru/toyota-scion doesn't cover them because they are clutches or clutch parts, but enough people have the issue, I only see it fit to have a class action lawsuit to cover anyone that had to pay anything out of pocket. My friend(who is on here) had his clutch completely disintegrate with the car being under 5k miles.

Sure, they could argue that he raced it etc.. but the clutch pad itself looked to be completely fresh, like you would expect from a car with less than 5k miles on it.

Neekowahhhh 01-31-2014 12:46 PM

Alright, so I brought my car in and I am currently at Irvine Subaru. The sound has been located by the techs, and I was told by the service advisor that they will have to order parts and that it will be covered under warranty at no cost to me(as expected.)

I'm really happy with the advisor(Sebastian) who was really helpful. He said they'll have to keep my car for a few days, which is cool with me. I don't mind, since my car will getting fixed.

I'll keep you guys updated.

BRZNutt 02-05-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neekowahhhh (Post 1494404)
Alright, so I brought my car in and I am currently at Irvine Subaru. The sound has been located by the techs, and I was told by the service advisor that they will have to order parts and that it will be covered under warranty at no cost to me(as expected.)

I'm really happy with the advisor(Sebastian) who was really helpful. He said they'll have to keep my car for a few days, which is cool with me. I don't mind, since my car will getting fixed.

I'll keep you guys updated.

Did you get your car back yet?

Neekowahhhh 02-05-2014 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZNutt (Post 1505752)
Did you get your car back yet?


Still have it, waiting for parts to come in before I leave it with them.

BRZNutt 02-05-2014 11:04 AM

Good move. Curious to see how this plays out for you. I have the honking sound but I dread letting my dealer touch my car.

dkstylezz 02-11-2014 01:53 PM

Clutch squeak
 
when pressed down the clutch pedal makes exactly the same sound on the op video. called Subaru sherman oaks today and will get the car checked out tomorrow morning.. will keep posting updates.. hope its nothing serious..

also i have noticed a metalic winding sound from either the transmission or the brakes.. its hard to audit with the car being loud as it is stock. will be checking the noise too.

Just when i thought i couldt start ignoring the damn crickets..

ericmpena 02-14-2014 12:32 PM

Mine just started doing this yesterday. :(
I can actually feel the clutch feel a little "crunchy" when it's almost fully pressed down. I can get the squeaky noise pretty much on demand. Guess I'll take it in and see what they say. It's definitely loud enough for it to bother me. Sucks.

Sigh-on-Rice 02-14-2014 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1529063)
I can actually feel the clutch feel a little "crunchy" when it's almost fully pressed down.

I can feel that on mine too.
Just curious. Does yours always make that noise? Mine makes the noise only after I drive for about 45 minutes. Just like the video on this thread says.

Neekowahhhh 02-14-2014 05:26 PM

Hey guys, So I picked up my car today. I dropped it off on Monday at Irvine Subaru and was told that it would be a day or two before it would be ready. After not receiving a call by wednesday, I called Thursday morning to see the progress on the repairs(entire clutch assembly/water pump/left tail light) and was told that it should be finished by today.

Went in just before noon and scooped her up. When I had originally taken the car in to diagnose the issue, the techs never took the clutch/trans down. They assumed that it was the entire assembly and ordered in the parts. When I asked what the issue was, they said that the throttle bearing was seizing and causing the rest of the assembly to do so as well. They replaced everything in the clutch assembly, including my flywheel. Overall, I had a great experience with Irvine Subaru.

A lot of Dealers can and will be sticklers about things like this for whatever reason. The service guy I dealt with was Sebastian, and he took good care of me. I was thoroughly expecting to have to fight with Subaru to explain that it was due to fault on the parts but they owned up, and repaired at no cost to me. I know some of you guys don't live in or around the OC area, but if you want you're stuff taken care of, call and ask for Sebastian.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZNutt (Post 1505779)
Good move. Curious to see how this plays out for you. I have the honking sound but I dread letting my dealer touch my car.

Well, I hope for your sake, you let them repair it on their dime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkstylezz (Post 1521138)
when pressed down the clutch pedal makes exactly the same sound on the op video. called Subaru sherman oaks today and will get the car checked out tomorrow morning.. will keep posting updates.. hope its nothing serious..

also i have noticed a metalic winding sound from either the transmission or the brakes.. its hard to audit with the car being loud as it is stock. will be checking the noise too.

Just when i thought i couldt start ignoring the damn crickets..

Good luck man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 1529476)
I can feel that on mine too.
Just curious. Does yours always make that noise? Mine makes the noise only after I drive for about 45 minutes. Just like the video on this thread says.


I'd take it in and see if it was the same issue that I was having

ericmpena 02-14-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 1529476)
I can feel that on mine too.
Just curious. Does yours always make that noise? Mine makes the noise only after I drive for about 45 minutes. Just like the video on this thread says.

I'll have to check it out today. I'll keep track on how long I'm driving for before I notice it.

ericmpena 02-15-2014 01:07 AM

So...my clutch squeaks all the time, not only after 45 min. At least I won't have to worry about not being able to demonstrate the issue to the dealership.
What I DO have to worry about though is them giving me some BS about it not being covered because I have LED interior bulbs or something stupid like that.
They've been a pain to deal with about the crickets...so I wouldn't be surprised if they try to avoid addressing my issue.
Definitely seems like they're trained to deflect warranty claims by giving bullshit excuses rather than actually fixing things.

radroach 02-17-2014 01:51 AM

see also http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49020

radroach 02-17-2014 01:52 AM

mine doesn't have the squeaky shoes problem, but it did feel a little rough afterwards, and then worked itself out. One thing it does is honk every so often if I'm not double clutch rev matching on a downshift.

aagun 02-18-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 1490214)
Rather than my bearing going out, it was a dry shift fork. I took mine in for warranty and had it lubricated. It took about 30m and the sound went away.

+100

i had same issues and i grease it , it is gone

Raven604 02-25-2014 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianhj (Post 1490318)
Does it almost sound like someone barely tapping their horn? This might have happened to me a few times today. I thought someone was honking at me. Not a full honk but like barely tapping. And then I started thinking maybe my clutch pedal made that sound. It was a really weird loud squeak sound. Not squeak like a mouse but deeper like a rusty gate opening or something. And it was very brief like a fraction of a second.

I've had this sounds for months. It's the throttle body according to Toyota and completely normal... Yeah right.

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MaXimus 03-04-2014 04:24 PM

I had exactly the same issue. Just been to the dealer and they fixed that....think it was just greased. I'm going back tomorrow for other issue not fixed and will ask what they did.

stratodyne 03-13-2014 12:31 AM

Sounds like it's confirmed that this is, in most cases, the clutch pedal fork needing additional lubrication? My squeak has been livable, but is starting to get worse to the point of it squeaking on clutch actuation while the engine is idling

ericmpena 03-13-2014 05:54 AM

Mine came back after a few days of it being quiet. It's pretty loud and feels crunchy when the clutch is almost to the floor. I keep putting on taking it to the dealership because it's over an hour drive and they want me to leave my car for 2 weeks. If all it needs is lubrication then maybe I can just tell them that and have them do it during a single visit.

ericmpena 03-13-2014 11:42 PM

Just curious, is it bad to be driving the car around with the clutch like this?

bkblitzed 03-13-2014 11:57 PM

ive been driving/clutch kicking with my clutch and it's been making that noise for like the past 300 miles xD. I guess ill take it in next week

ericmpena 03-31-2014 09:24 AM

Took my car to the dealership on March 19th and still haven't heard anything back yet. I'll be calling them after work today. I'm really hoping they're almost done fixing my clutch pedal.

ericmpena 04-01-2014 10:08 AM

Just got the call that my car is ready to be picked up. I've been dying to drive it again! Hope the clutch issue is completely fixed.

Synack 04-01-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aagun (Post 1538438)
+100

i had same issues and i grease it , it is gone

How did you grease it? Mine's doing the same thing.

ericmpena 04-01-2014 06:54 PM

So I got my car back and the creaking noise is gone, but now when I release the clutch pedal I hear a pretty loud "clank" noise..like metal hitting metal. I definitely would've noticed that before...so I'm sure it's not normal. It really sucks since the dealership is an hour away and I just got back home. Looks like I'll need to take it back and have them look at it again. :(

I took a video of the noise. The clanking is much louder in person I feel, but anyways...here it is. This is just me pushing in the clutch and then releasing it.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo_TyeMEYL4"]BRZ Clutch Clanking - YouTube[/ame]

Sigh-on-Rice 04-01-2014 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1642220)
So I got my car back and the creaking noise is gone, but now when I release the clutch pedal I hear a pretty loud "clank" noise..like metal hitting metal. I definitely would've noticed that before...so I'm sure it's not normal. It really sucks since the dealership is an hour away and I just got back home. Looks like I'll need to take it back and have them look at it again. :(

I took a video of the noise. The clanking is much louder in person I feel, but anyways...here it is. This is just me pushing in the clutch and then releasing it.
BRZ Clutch Clanking - YouTube

That sounds very much like http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=13.
Mine makes that noise too.

BTW, did they tell you what they did to get rid of the noise?

ericmpena 04-01-2014 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 1642263)
That sounds very much like http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=13.
Mine makes that noise too.

BTW, did they tell you what they did to get rid of the noise?

Interesting. It definitely didn't make that noise before I took it in. My friend has an FR-S parked right next to me. I'm gonna see how his sounds compared to mine.

I had the paper from Subaru stating what work they did, but I threw it out. I read through a little bit and it just seemed like they took the transmission out, wiped it down, and put it back in and the sound was gone. lol. I'll call them tomorrow and ask for details about the work done. I might end up taking it back just to have them check the clanking. Maybe it's a quick adjustment that they can make.

marinjim 04-03-2014 07:53 PM

Took my 22 month old FR-S in yesterday for squeak diagnosis and is throw-out bearing that needs replacing. Covered under 5 year 60K mile Powertrain warranty. I always put the car in neutral at lights and don't ride the clutch, in fact, my 93' Lexus SC300 5 speed made it to 110K mile before needing a new clutch. I'll update when work complete, but this isn't good for a car with 24K on it.

aagun 04-09-2014 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1641005)
How did you grease it? Mine's doing the same thing.

i use liquid grease white color in the hole shift of rod clutch

ericmpena 04-11-2014 10:41 AM

Just an update: after receiving my car back from the dealership the clutch feels much smoother than before and very quiet as well. If you have this issue going on then don't hesitate to take it in while under warranty. My only regret was waiting so long before taking my car in.


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