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Whitigir 01-26-2014 10:55 AM

Would you rather have More powerful or convertible 86 ?
 
Toyota, and it sub division scion are saying that the new sport car is going through the 3rd year of production, and approaching the 4th. They want to keep the momentum going.

Obviously, they had been releasing limited versions, but that is not enough. They teased us the convertible 86. But got kicked in the butts by Subaru.

They really want to keep up the momentums, so they study it internally as where, how, to produce the 86 convertible without Subaru helps.

Therefore, I have you all an Ultimate question.

If Toyota was to sell more of the 86. Would you buy.

1/ More Powerful 86.
2/ Convertible.

cobrabyte 01-26-2014 10:58 AM

Targa top would be nice but... car needs more power.

B-R-Z 01-26-2014 10:59 AM

More power. At least 240-250hp. Preferably turbo, but even NA would be fine.

Pickleahoy 01-26-2014 11:00 AM

If you wanted a convertible get a miata. All the 86 could possibly need is more power

Jegan_V 01-26-2014 11:07 AM

I've driven a few convertibles and they're nice on certain days...but to me that's only great for a rental. The loss of trunk space, the required maintenance on canvas roofs, the weight gain and increased price for me aren't worth it.

I'm one of the few who is satisfied with the power output of this car, but for sure I wouldn't say no if I were given more.

Mandy 01-26-2014 11:10 AM

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kmbkk 01-26-2014 11:30 AM

Here's my thought, and I'll preface it with I've never owned a convertible myself but have driven them a lot. I'd personally like both options. I can add more power to a car much easier, and cheaper, than making it a convertible, not to mention more reliable. So, since I can only vote for one, I vote for convertible.

Carlitoz3 01-26-2014 11:31 AM

Powow

FReSh 01-26-2014 11:34 AM

Definitely power. Another 50-75 hp would be perfect.

twag4 01-26-2014 11:36 AM

Power.

ericmpena 01-26-2014 11:38 AM

Power definitely.

R.S-HawK 01-26-2014 11:50 AM

Last time I drove a convertible, some fat redneck woman threw a half-filled, large coke from McDonalds out the passenger's side window, hitting the top of my windshield and leaving me and my friend completely drenched.

So yeah, I'll take more power.

NWFRS 01-26-2014 02:14 PM

Convertibles are fun if they make mechanical noises from the 1960's and '70's and are only driven when it's not raining. If a car is driven daily I'll have fuel injection and a hard top. :-)

charged86 01-26-2014 02:29 PM

na 250 hp at 10:5:1 covertibles are for girls

humfrz 01-26-2014 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1480577)
...........

If Toyota was to sell more of the 86. Would you buy.

1/ More Powerful 86.
2/ Convertible.

Neither one.

If I wanted a convertible, I would have kept my Miata.

If I would have wanted a more power, I would have bought a different car.

:thanks:

dnieves 01-26-2014 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrabyte (Post 1480579)
Targa top would be nice but... car needs more power.



OMG!! 50 HP extra and a targa top would be GREAT!!!!!! The icing on the cake would be all the features of the 86 and no crickets! That would make me trade in my 10 Series or buy it to keep as a second twin in the family.


I think a convertible looks good but I like the pagoda style metal roof over my head that doesn't leak, squeak/whistle/howl, or is prime target for vandals -more power wins.

dem00n 01-26-2014 03:36 PM

Wagon.

carbonBLUE 01-26-2014 03:41 PM

HI TOYOTA I WANT MORE POWER TY K!

BlueDubbinTDI 01-26-2014 04:01 PM

Power. Easy choice for me. I'm actually glad I didn't even get a sunroof let alone a drop top.

swilliams 01-26-2014 04:13 PM

Heavier convertible with stock power? Is this real life?

What has the entire community been begging for since the car's release? Oh yes, a convertible. Silly me. :mad0260:

Toyota can build their convertible and then Subaru needs to slap them over the head with an engine upgrade. :slap:

I'm content with the car, but would whole-heartedly welcome the same car with a 2.5L or turbo engine. No convertibles. Ever.

993Fan 01-26-2014 04:28 PM

It has enough power...

Demanding more power is a slippery slope which typically ends up with a larger, heavier, more technology-intensive, more expensive car with better performance which is somehow less fun to drive.

RFB 01-26-2014 04:34 PM

It should be a 4X4 - WITH CATERPILLAR TRACKS !

:confused0068:

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CERBERUS

soundman98 01-26-2014 04:39 PM

my last 2 cars were convertibles. i'm tired of the maintenance.. i'd much rather have a sun roof and more power..

Tromatic 01-26-2014 06:50 PM

Convertable. I don't have a horsepower fetish.

SirBrass 01-26-2014 06:51 PM

Power. I don't care for convertibles much.

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swilliams 01-26-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 993Fan (Post 1481099)
It has enough power...

Demanding more power is a slippery slope which typically ends up with a larger, heavier, more technology-intensive, more expensive car with better performance which is somehow less fun to drive.

Does it have enough torque? A 2.5L NA would not be any more outrageous than the current 2L. A turbo or supercharger will add weight but the aftermarket has already shown it doesn't alter the driving experience.

It's a slippery slope when you're a luxury sports car manufacturer and people demand every amenity under the sun AND lofty performance numbers (see BMW). Toyota & Subaru have already demonstrated they don't care if people want powered seats & steering wheel controls. I agree with you, though. I already own the original so if the new one sucks it only makes mine more desirable.

RedLeader 01-26-2014 07:19 PM

Please stop making a convertible out of every good sports car! All it does is add more weight, more flex and more moving/breakable parts.

strat61caster 01-26-2014 07:31 PM

Neither.

Convertible = more weight and/or less structural rigidity
Mo Powah = not convinced this is easy, there will be sacrifices ($$$, weight, c.g., character)

Very glad I got a '13, especially with idle talk of an I4 or oem turbo.

Rio 01-26-2014 07:40 PM

Neither! Just more aftermarket parts and options please!

TRD_86 01-26-2014 07:43 PM

subaru can work on the car and revise to put in another turbo version like wrx engine without any problem. It sure going to happen at mid cycle 2015 :)

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86-tundra 01-26-2014 08:15 PM

OP I suggest adding a poll...

86-tundra 01-26-2014 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD_86 (Post 1481445)
subaru can work on the car and revise to put in another turbo version like wrx engine without any problem. It sure going to happen at mid cycle 2015 :)

I will bet you, right now, $20 that there is no 2015 power refresh

fradet 01-26-2014 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevorovert (Post 1481511)
I will bet you, right now, $20 that there is no 2015 power refresh

I wouldnt be surprise if there is one in 2015, to fight this : http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/w...e-concept1.jpg

I vote for more power !

sprintertrueno86 01-26-2014 08:49 PM

Less power and lighter version just to piss everyone off.

993Fan 01-26-2014 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swilliams (Post 1481374)
Does it have enough torque? A 2.5L NA would not be any more outrageous than the current 2L. A turbo or supercharger will add weight but the aftermarket has already shown it doesn't alter the driving experience.

It's hard to beat the response of an NA engine.

However, if I had to choose, I'd prefer a supercharger over a turbo unless I could get a variable-vane turbo a la Porsche (which ain't happenin at this price point...).

I fully intended to replace my 05 MCS with a new one in 07 but the new model had a turbo instead of a supercharger which ruined the feel of the car (imo, obviously). In comparison, the 05/06 models were sublime. I kept mine and still enjoy it.

In the end, it's a question of balance and more torque or HP is not always better if the rest of the car isn't prepared for it. Thus begins the slippery slope.

Vincenttam 01-26-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1480577)
Toyota, and it sub division scion are saying that the new sport car is going through the 3rd year of production, and approaching the 4th. They want to keep the momentum going.

Obviously, they had been releasing limited versions, but that is not enough. They teased us the convertible 86. But got kicked in the butts by Subaru.

They really want to keep up the momentums, so they study it internally as where, how, to produce the 86 convertible without Subaru helps.

Therefore, I have you all an Ultimate question.

If Toyota was to sell more of the 86. Would you buy.

1/ More Powerful 86.
2/ Convertible.

Power, convertible are for people going through mid life crisis.

jeffchap 01-26-2014 11:17 PM

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Need...more...POWER!

Tromatic 01-27-2014 01:24 AM

All they have to do is bring in the Toyota 86 and half the people here would trade for it instantly. Sell that for two years until that new shiny thing market is saturated and then sell the gen 2. The engineering department is patting themselves on the back for getting the thing built, and the marketers are thinking "suckers".

Trmx2 01-27-2014 01:28 AM

Power, hands down. I could care less about a convertible.


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