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gdrider77 01-23-2014 09:03 PM

Best/Preferred gauges for monitoring.
 
So just wondering, what are others using for gauges, and what are they monitoring. Currently using AEM failsafe for AFR and boost. Looking to add oil and cooling.

Brands, and what are you monitoring? Also, what are you all using to get the feeds to the gauges?

DJCarbine 01-23-2014 09:07 PM

p3cars vent gauge

Adding in an aftermarket wideband to the gauge aux input

mrk1 01-23-2014 09:22 PM

Innovate dual oil pressure/temp, TurboSmart eboost2, probably will get Innovate AFR

protpibe 01-23-2014 10:21 PM

Aem fail safe and innovate mtx oil temp and pressure ... 2 gauges, 4 important readings

gdrider77 01-23-2014 10:37 PM

Where and how are you guys getting the oil temp and pressure.

midnight23 01-23-2014 11:38 PM

Just Greddy Multi D/A boost gauge at the moment, I will add a few more sensors later on to the gauge (Oil temp)

xwd 01-24-2014 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gdrider77 (Post 1475533)
Where and how are you guys getting the oil temp and pressure.



I put the pressure sensor in place of the stock oil pressure switch, and the temp probe in another spot on top of the block. You need a fitting from Subaru they call an oil gallery plug which has a 1/8 PT thread. Or you could use a sandwich plate with fittings. I am using the Greedy Multi D/A as well with four sensors hooked up. It will monitor/alarm on three at one time.

Pitman 01-24-2014 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by protpibe (Post 1475493)
Aem fail safe and innovate mtx oil temp and pressure ... 2 gauges, 4 important readings

As he said, I have the same, still need to fit the Innovate gauge, though.

ecko04 01-24-2014 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 1475338)
p3cars vent gauge



Adding in an aftermarket wideband to the gauge aux input


This!

P3Cars vent gauge for oil temp, coolant temp, boost & vacuum. Innovate LC-2 wideband wired to aux 1 of the P3Cars gauge for AFR. AEM oil pressure sensor wired to aux 2 for oil pressure. Over boost protection programmed into the tune.

ecko04 01-24-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gdrider77 (Post 1475533)
Where and how are you guys getting the oil temp and pressure.


https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=961

Right beside the throttle body there is a hex plug. Unscrew it, screw in the galley, screw in your sensor and wire it.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...95&postcount=8

mike the snake 01-24-2014 07:16 AM

The PLX gauge can be anything you want. You just buy whatever module you need for any particular function. The gauge itself can scroll through a bunch of different functions.

http://www.plxdevices.com/

Sportsguy83 01-24-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protpibe (Post 1475493)
Aem fail safe and innovate mtx oil temp and pressure ... 2 gauges, 4 important readings

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdrider77 (Post 1475533)
Where and how are you guys getting the oil temp and pressure.

I have this same combo. Two gauges giving 4 outputs

I have Robispec sandwich plate and it has two ports for each pressure and temp. Like dwx said, you can tee into the stock oil pressure sensor (use aluminum fitting brass can break too easily) and the port on top of the block for oil temp

http://www.fastwrx.com/oilgalleryplug.html

Pitman 01-24-2014 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 1475955)
I put the pressure sensor in place of the stock oil pressure switch, and the temp probe in another spot on top of the block. You need a fitting from Subaru they call an oil gallery plug which has a 1/8 PT thread. Or you could use a sandwich plate with fittings. I am using the Greedy Multi D/A as well with four sensors hooked up. It will monitor/alarm on three at one time.

Any chance of you posting up some pictures of your connections?

Thanks,
Dave

Sportsguy83 01-24-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1476071)
I have this same combo. Two gauges giving 4 outputs

I have Robispec sandwich plate and it has two ports for each pressure and temp. Like dwx said, you can tee into the stock oil pressure sensor (use aluminum fitting brass can break too easily) and the port on top of the block for oil temp

http://www.fastwrx.com/oilgalleryplug.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitman (Post 1476074)
Any chance of you posting up some pictures of your connections?

Thanks,
Dave

The block port that me and @dwx speak of for the Oil Temp is right on the side of the AC compressor.

http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1779.jpg

xxscaxx 01-24-2014 08:57 AM

Those running a wideband, where are you putting the o2 sensor?

DJCarbine 01-24-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1476158)
Those running a wideband, where are you putting the o2 sensor?

Just to expand on this, anyone using the secondary o2 sensor bung already in the header?

xxscaxx 01-24-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 1476228)
Just to expand on this, anyone using the secondary o2 sensor bung already in the header?

Thats the direction I was kind of heading to, lol. I want to add the Innovate wideband to my setup on my p3cars gauge, just wondering where people are actually putting the o2 sensor.

lexusb3 01-24-2014 09:49 AM

P3 vent gauge

M1K3 01-24-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1476232)
Thats the direction I was kind of heading to, lol. I want to add the Innovate wideband to my setup on my p3cars gauge, just wondering where people are actually putting the o2 sensor.

Front pipe is a good location:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5518/1...a98954b0_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1008242...n/photostream/

Sportsguy83 01-24-2014 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1476158)
Those running a wideband, where are you putting the o2 sensor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 1476228)
Just to expand on this, anyone using the secondary o2 sensor bung already in the header?

I am running it on the overpipe. Ran the cable through the firewall on the passenger side and it comes right out on top of the OP.

I believe it can be run on the secondary O2 in the header. After all, the tune removes the CEL and (I UNDERSTAND) its only purpose is monitoring Cat efficiency.

protpibe 01-24-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1476158)
Those running a wideband, where are you putting the o2 sensor?

I had a bung welded by the front flange on my front pipe. If you get it welded at around 10 o'clock pointed away from the transmission, there is plenty of room

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King Tut 01-24-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1476158)
Those running a wideband, where are you putting the o2 sensor?

My Full Blown downpipe came with three bungs, and I put it in the furthest bung away from the turbo after the OEM primary and secondary O2 sensors. The best place for it is prior to any cats and at least 18" away from the outlet of your turbo or exhaust ports (for superchargers).

As for gauges I used the AEM Failsafe. I like being able to see both AFR and Boost at the same time at a glance. I really like having the AFR on the outside with simple colored LEDs to tell me what is going on. If my AFR is not in the green then I let off. You can easily see that in your vision and you don't need to worry about processing quickly moving numbers on a gauge.

protpibe 01-24-2014 10:12 AM

Here's mine

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...57792091_n.jpg

I was originally going to mount my wideband in the secondary o2 sensor port but decided against it. Like King Tut said, you'll want it a little bit more down stream, but before the secondary cat.

xxscaxx 01-24-2014 10:23 AM

Thanks guys. Rather stick it in the secondary o2 spot, but I could always have a bung welded on the front pipe, seeing as I have to take it off anyway because the damn hanger broke lol

Nomed Alucard 02-25-2014 12:43 AM

I have the MTX-L wideband, MTX-D oil temp and pressure and not but not last the Defi Boost gauge. I guess if I need anymore gauges I'll but the P3. As soon as I finish getting the rest of parts I'll take as many pics as possible.

w3bhead 05-14-2014 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1476083)
The block port that me and @dwx speak of for the Oil Temp is right on the side of the AC compressor.

http://www.itrexpo.com/users/dave/brz/IMG_1779.jpg

Do you think it's okay to use a 1/8 NPT elbow like this, so the sensor would clear the wires? Or would this affect the reading somehow?

http://www.jerzeecustoms.com/images/...ting%20002.jpg

Sportsguy83 05-14-2014 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by w3bhead (Post 1735714)
Do you think it's okay to use a 1/8 NPT elbow like this, so the sensor would clear the wires? Or would this affect the reading somehow?

It would be fine, no issues.

mike the snake 05-14-2014 10:00 AM

Where can I get one of these adaptors? It goes from metric to 1/8 npt correct?

I wanted to use the PLX gauge, but it's sensors were all not compatible with the holes in my engine.



Quote:

Originally Posted by w3bhead (Post 1735714)
Do you think it's okay to use a 1/8 NPT elbow like this, so the sensor would clear the wires? Or would this affect the reading somehow?

http://www.jerzeecustoms.com/images/...ting%20002.jpg


OrbitalEllipses 05-14-2014 10:01 AM

I only buy gold-plated, diamond-encrusted gauges made in the mountains of Japan by samurai artisans.

protpibe 05-14-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1736002)
Where can I get one of these adaptors? It goes from metric to 1/8 npt correct?

I wanted to use the PLX gauge, but it's sensors were all not compatible with the holes in my engine.

Npt to bspt adapter ?

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Sportsguy83 05-14-2014 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1736002)
Where can I get one of these adaptors? It goes from metric to 1/8 npt correct?

I wanted to use the PLX gauge, but it's sensors were all not compatible with the holes in my engine.

This b*tch is selective like that, does not want anyone and everyone plugging its holes just because...

SirBrass 05-14-2014 12:43 PM

A P3 gauge is a good buy, then.

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King Tut 05-14-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1736005)
I only buy gold-plated, diamond-encrusted gauges made in the mountains of Japan by samurai artisans.

You mean fittings, and they come from McMaster-Carr.

w3bhead 05-15-2014 07:45 AM

My apologies, I meant to write 1/8 PT. I found a 1/8 PT x 1/8 PT elbow at trico-oilers.com Haven't searched though their whole inventory for a PT to NPT adapter though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1736002)
Where can I get one of these adaptors? It goes from metric to 1/8 npt correct?

I wanted to use the PLX gauge, but it's sensors were all not compatible with the holes in my engine.


Sportsguy83 05-15-2014 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1736002)
Where can I get one of these adaptors? It goes from metric to 1/8 npt correct?

I wanted to use the PLX gauge, but it's sensors were all not compatible with the holes in my engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by w3bhead (Post 1738564)
My apologies, I meant to write 1/8 PT. I found a 1/8 PT x 1/8 PT elbow at trico-oilers.com Haven't searched though their whole inventory for a PT to NPT adapter though.

You can always get Mach V oil galley plug adapter and use the 1/8 NPT angled adapter on that..

http://www.fastwrx.com/oilgalleryplug.html

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/fastwrx_2270_73364417

protpibe 05-15-2014 08:24 AM

Although some might disagree with this, bspt and nt threads are nearly identical. If you use Teflon tape and tighten it down really hard, it won't leak. I think the difference between the two is like a couple of threads tighter out of 30 or so

Obviously an adapter is the better bet, but this will work in a pinch

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woode 05-15-2014 08:38 AM

I run the P3Cars Vent Gage. I really like it, however I find myself wanting to monitor AFR and Boost at the same time sometimes so I might be switching soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by protpibe (Post 1738616)
Although some might disagree with this, bspt and nt threads are nearly identical. If you use Teflon tape and tighten it down really hard, it won't leak. I think the difference between the two is like a couple of threads tighter out of 30 or so

Obviously an adapter is the better bet, but this will work in a pinch

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Maybe it's the aircraft mechanic in me, or the fact that I hate leaks from my engine.. but this is a terrible idea when the right part costs a few bucks.

protpibe 05-15-2014 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woode (Post 1738624)
I run the P3Cars Vent Gage. I really like it, however I find myself wanting to monitor AFR and Boost at the same time sometimes so I might be switching soon.



Maybe it's the aircraft mechanic in me, or the fact that I hate leaks from my engine.. but this is a terrible idea when the right part costs a few bucks.

Yeah I'm not condoning it or saying everyone should do it, but it does work and it will seal. IIRC, the PT Male/NT Female adapter is easy to find, but the NT Male/PT Female is not.

Another option is to tap the gallery plug fitting as needed

w3bhead 05-15-2014 08:51 AM

Didn't think about that. Haha. Thanks for pointing that out. :thanks:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1738601)
You can always get Mach V oil galley plug adapter and use the 1/8 NPT angled adapter on that..

http://www.fastwrx.com/oilgalleryplug.html

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/fastwrx_2270_73364417


Boss Paco 05-15-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woode (Post 1738624)
I run the P3Cars Vent Gage. I really like it, however I find myself wanting to monitor AFR and Boost at the same time sometimes so I might be switching soon.

Funny you state my thoughts. I have a gauge for the wideband that I might install as soon as I find a pod that isn't intrusive. I love the P3 for that. Greddy has a multi gauge that reads boost full time and I think two others. I wonder if it can do AFR as well.


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