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CSG Mike 01-21-2014 04:15 PM

jackson Racing engine oil cooler - modular to fit the Jackson Racing Supercharger!
 
Jackson Racing has been testing this setup on their cars for months now. Since we desperately needed an engine oil cooler and didn't know where to put it... we decided to go with their setup.

http://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/h...92294338_n.jpg

The Supercharger's oil cooler gets relocated further right (looking from the front) toward the driver's side, while the Engine oil cooler is located directly next to it on the passenger side. The engine oil cooler has been specifically sized to maximize airflow through the front bumper opening, and through the intercooler for supercharged applications.

The bracket itself is NOT mounted to the plastic floor pans of the car, but rather onto the car itself, using extension arms that are supplied with the supercharger kit. You won't rip out your oil cooler (and FMIC) if you damage your undertray with this setup!

For those that want this oil cooler on a NA application, a separate bracket will be available, locating the oil cooler in the center.

We tested this past weekend at the first 2014 86CUP event, and took First place with the fastest time of the day! Engine oil temps were rock solid stable, and never got over 240F, even when we were drafting other cars for several laps at a time on purpose [sorry @ImperiousRex @mav1178] (drafting results in less airflow through the front bumper opening, because the air is extremely turbulant behind another car).

Compared to most air-oil coolers on this market, this setup utilizes a slightly shorter, but wider oil cooler to maximize the airflow coming in through the front bumper. This is particularly important for those with a forced induction setup with an intercooler; the intercooler prevents the air from flowing "up" as much, since the air can only flow through the intercooler. In the case of the Jackson Racing Supercharger, the engine oil cooler sits directly behind the FMIC for maximum flow.


*edit*

Another picture to show the full size of the oil cooler. The kit includes a thermostat, so you can't *overcool* your oil, but it'll certainly prevent it from cooking.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75...psb23251fa.jpg

*LongFella 01-21-2014 04:23 PM

jackson Racing engine oil cooler - modular to fit the Jackson Racing Supercha...
 
Nice!

OICU812 01-21-2014 04:46 PM

Great! Any eta to public Mike?

ATL BRZ 01-21-2014 04:57 PM

Looks very similar to the Perrin (Mocal) core and fittings. Is the bracket for side-by-side mounting a separate purchase or is that included with the JRSC kit? I'm still convinced that the Perrin OC kit can be adapted to this bracket with no modification. Might have to get different length lines but I'm sure you can route them just fine back there.

CSG Mike 01-21-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1468675)
Looks very similar to the Perrin (Mocal) core and fittings. Is the bracket for side-by-side mounting a separate purchase or is that included with the JRSC kit? I'm still convinced that the Perrin OC kit can be adapted to this bracket with no modification. Might have to get different length lines but I'm sure you can route them just fine back there.

The bracket is supplied with the oil cooler; everything is modular and existing supercharger kits already have the necessary holes to mount the engine oil cooler bracket.

This is a Setraub core that is a little shorter, but substantially wider. Overall surface area is comparable.

If you're willing to re-drill and re-weld this bracket, you could, theoretically, use the Perrin OC core.

CSG Mike 01-21-2014 06:03 PM

Another picture to show the full size of the oil cooler. The kit includes a thermostat, so you can't *overcool* your oil, but it'll certainly prevent it from cooking.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75...psb23251fa.jpg

tendogy 01-22-2014 10:47 PM

Price? Release date?

juliog 10-07-2014 12:22 AM

Data logged two weeks apart (Sept 27, Oct 05) with AIM SOLO DL:

BRP 13CW / No Oil Cooler / Ambient: 76F Hi / FTD 2.08 / => Oil Temp 270F Hi
BRP 13CW / JR Oil Cooler / Ambient 97F Hi / FTD 2.07 / => Oil Temp 228F Hi

Get an oil cooler guys :)

Avo1789 10-20-2014 10:55 PM

I'm looking into getting the JR oil cooler right now, but plan on supercharging in the future. Can I install the SC version of the oil cooler on my NA set up? I just don't want to order the NA setup now, and then order the SC brackets/ various other components when I pull the trigger on the SC.

CSG Mike 10-20-2014 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avo1789 (Post 1991784)
I'm looking into getting the JR oil cooler right now, but plan on supercharging in the future. Can I install the SC version of the oil cooler on my NA set up? I just don't want to order the NA setup now, and then order the SC brackets/ various other components when I pull the trigger on the SC.

Nope, the SC version require SC components to bolt up. When you convert from NA to SC, all you need is a different bracket and lines, which are readily available.

*LongFella 10-21-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliog (Post 1974627)
Data logged two weeks apart (Sept 27, Oct 05) with AIM SOLO DL:

BRP 13CW / No Oil Cooler / Ambient: 76F Hi / FTD 2.08 / => Oil Temp 270F Hi
BRP 13CW / JR Oil Cooler / Ambient 97F Hi / FTD 2.07 / => Oil Temp 228F Hi

Get an oil cooler guys :)


Nice!

Xero-Limit 10-22-2014 09:02 PM

The latest version of this cooler that we put on had the clamps on the push lock lines, just an FYI for folks who are worried about leaks etc...shouldn't have any issues there.

*LongFella 10-22-2014 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto-mike (Post 1994656)
The latest version of this cooler that we put on had the clamps on the push lock lines, just an FYI for folks who are worried about leaks etc...shouldn't have any issues there.


Interesting. Maybe the earlier versions some of us had need to get some clamps. I haven't had any issues, but it might be a good safety precaution...

dj2020 11-29-2014 11:30 PM

General oil cooler question here: how do you drain the oil that is in the core and oil lines when you drain the oil pan during an oil change? Or is the amount negligible and simply just drain what's in the pan and then fill her up with new oil?

*LongFella 11-30-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj2020 (Post 2038960)
General oil cooler question here: how do you drain the oil that is in the core and oil lines when you drain the oil pan during an oil change? Or is the amount negligible and simply just drain what's in the pan and then fill her up with new oil?


You could pump air in the line and try draining it, but typically you just do a regular oil change draining it from the oil pan. I could be wrong...

CSG Mike 12-01-2014 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj2020 (Post 2038960)
General oil cooler question here: how do you drain the oil that is in the core and oil lines when you drain the oil pan during an oil change? Or is the amount negligible and simply just drain what's in the pan and then fill her up with new oil?

Just drain what's in the pan, and fill her up.

You'll be draining and filling the same amount in stock, a small amount remains in the oil cooler core that doesn't get drained, so you don't need to fill any extra.

fasteddy 03-11-2015 10:24 AM

How much extra oil capacity does this add? I am going to be installing this shortly and just need to know if I need more than 6 quarts.

Thanks.

Pat

CSG Mike 03-11-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fasteddy (Post 2164464)
How much extra oil capacity does this add? I am going to be installing this shortly and just need to know if I need more than 6 quarts.

Thanks.

Pat

You'll need to top off about 1qt.

themajesticone 01-04-2016 01:51 AM

So along with the s/c kit itself, which includes an intercooler and a single oil cooler, you also need to get second oil cooler? So you're running two total?

CSG Mike 01-04-2016 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themajesticone (Post 2497562)
So along with the s/c kit itself, which includes an intercooler and a single oil cooler, you also need to get second oil cooler? So you're running two total?

The included cooler cools the Rotrex (supercharger) fluid. This thread is for the engine oil cooler, which is independent of the supercharger system.

Not everyone who supercharges their car needs/wants an oil cooler.

phanguy 01-04-2016 02:32 PM

With the oil cooler I understand I need an additional 1qt, but what about when I change my oil? How do I get it out of the oil cooler? Use a pump or something? Or do I just let it drain what it can then fill up with 6 instead of 7qts?

ATL BRZ 01-04-2016 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 2497917)
With the oil cooler I understand I need an additional 1qt, but what about when I change my oil? How do I get it out of the oil cooler? Use a pump or something? Or do I just let it drain what it can then fill up with 6 instead of 7qts?

Don't worry about it and just add ~5.5 liters of fresh oil. It's okay if you don't drain the cooler assuming you're changing the oil and filter every 3-5k miles.

1Cor10:23 04-27-2016 10:49 AM

@CSG Mike @Jackson Racing one thing about the NA JR cooler that's been bothering me a bit is that my oil lines rest slightly on top of the front bumper beam in the recommended routing (and in fact, the only routing possible given length). Has anyone run into issues with this? I decided to give my hoses an inspection last week and noticed it had already started to strip the paint away from the bumper beam surface through abrasion.

CSG Mike 04-27-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Cor10:23 (Post 2635119)
@CSG Mike @Jackson Racing one thing about the NA JR cooler that's been bothering me a bit is that my oil lines rest slightly on top of the front bumper beam in the recommended routing (and in fact, the only routing possible given length). Has anyone run into issues with this? I decided to give my hoses an inspection last week and noticed it had already started to strip the paint away from the bumper beam surface through abrasion.

That's intentional. Your impact beam protects the oil line from being exposed to worse things.

1Cor10:23 04-27-2016 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2635293)
That's intentional. Your impact beam protects the oil line from being exposed to worse things.

Agreed that it does help against other, sharp edges but curious what the lasting impact of the rubbing will be.


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