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FR-S Matt 01-14-2014 10:33 PM

Sound Clip Request: Catless UEL + Catted Front Pipe + Invidia N1
 
Anyone running this setup? Recently added a JDL Overpipe + Invidia catted front pipe + Q300 catback to my car along with a JDL UEL. I'm trying to determine if this setup is just "too quiet". Can't hear too much inside the car. Hard to tell if there's even much noise out the back with windows down.

I've already looked on youtube, seen a couple videos sort of close to what I'm looking for but not quite.

Few things I'm wondering about the N1 setup:

A) Is anyone running a catless UEL with a catted Invidia front pipe and the N1? I know there's tons of resonated or catless ones. Specifically looking for the catted since that's what I've got.
B) I've heard drone is reduced by having a catless UEL vs the stock header. True or not?
C) Does it become raspy with this setup?

I like the deepness of the dual canister setup, but the main thing I can't stand is rasp. If it drones a little, I can stand that, but nothing too crazy. Just trying to find that perfect balance of loudness without being too quiet or too raspy. I may stick with the Q300, but the N1 isn't very expensive and the pipe size should keep the sound reasonable.

Yes, I've searched the forums. There's also a million vendor threads with "Invidia N1" in them.

IAmNotTheDriftKing 01-14-2014 10:42 PM

I ran an N1 for a little, just the catback and the drone was just terrible. Would not recommend, plus it is probably going to be raspy with a catless header and even worse on the drone.

FrsDuke 01-14-2014 10:43 PM

Lol crackhead

Edit: I mean Matt.

FR-S Matt 01-14-2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrsDuke (Post 1453916)
Lol crackhead

Edit: I mean Matt.

lol, I can't make up my damn mind. Exhaust makes me crazy. If I had the money, I'd buy them all and just swap them forever.

Captain Insano 01-14-2014 10:49 PM

I think your combo with the N1 would pretty loud inside the car having run that exhaust with no other exhaust mods. I am surprised u think the Q300 is too quiet with the rest of your exhaust mods ..... with the Q300 you could consider non resonated midpipe and/or frontpipe or no cats if you have those. I have the Q300 + resonated catless front pipe + overpipe and think it sounds pretty good and will be great once I get a header.

FR-S Matt 01-14-2014 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmNotTheDriftKing (Post 1453914)
I ran an N1 for a little, just the catback and the drone was just terrible. Would not recommend, plus it is probably going to be raspy with a catless header and even worse on the drone.

Unless it can top the drone of the 3" Nameless system with a catless header.... Did all your mirrors shake and windows vibrate around 3k rpm?

SmsAlSuwaidi 01-14-2014 10:50 PM

Keep your setup ! enough with the changing haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1453938)
Unless it can top the drone of the 3" Nameless system with a catless header.... Did all your mirrors shake and windows vibrate around 3k rpm?

Oh that reminds me of my borla uel and straight header back setup :lol:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9_ZHWgLBVc"]Frs with Borla uel j2 test pipe and Buddy Club Spec II ( Silencer on) - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biGJ3pWSDTI"]Frs Exhaust - straight pipe with a borla UEL - YouTube[/ame]

FrsDuke 01-14-2014 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1453925)
lol, I can't make up my damn mind. Exhaust makes me crazy. If I had the money, I'd buy them all and just swap them forever.

I bet your car sounds perfect now that you found the leak and the buzz. The real problem is the hearing loss from the 3" setup

FR-S Matt 01-14-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1453939)
Keep your setup ! enough with the changing haha



Oh that reminds me of my borla uel and straight header back setup :lol:

Holy crap

FR-S Matt 01-14-2014 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrsDuke (Post 1453960)
I bet your car sounds perfect now that you found the leak and the buzz. The real problem is the hearing loss from the 3" setup

Yeah, that buzz is gone. The overpipe needed to be shifted over more on the header as it was sitting more to the left causing a good leak on the right side you could feel.

andrew5826 01-14-2014 11:25 PM

your setup is pretty close to what mine will be.
JDL UEL+Perrin over pipe+Invidia resonated frontpipe+Q300.

right now i have stock headers as im waiting for them to be built but yeah I agree it sounds too quiet. I'm waiting until my headers come to make a final decision to keep the q300 or not. I also considered installing an electric cutout somewhere between the front pipe and muffler so I can have the best of both worlds but there isnt too much info on electric cutouts on our cars so i dont know how it would work out

jflogerzi 01-14-2014 11:32 PM

I am running Borla UEL, motiv OP, stock FP, 2.5inch Perrin resonated. If you want a video of that, let me know.

Mikeez 01-15-2014 01:03 AM

UEL IS LOUD, wow........... how much is it. What's the difference of catback, header, cat front and all that

FR-S Matt 01-15-2014 10:33 PM

I may try the N1 and keep the Q300 if I get tired of it being loud, which normally I don't have a problem with. I even rolled the windows down and stepped on it and it still seems a bit tame with the UEL rumble. Absolutely no drone and real quiet in the cab. I do like how deep toned the N1 is. Losing the aero of the Q300 kind of sucks, but I don't think it affects things too much.

HatchetBurial 01-15-2014 11:20 PM

I'd be willing to bet that your set up would sound great with an Ft86speedfactory V1 resonated catback.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og7l6ueciuI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Borla UEL Header with Invidia Catted Front Pipe & FT-86 V1 Exhaust - Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

I realize that one is the non resonated version but imagine that^ with a resonator to take care of the slight rasp. Seems like it would get you the extra ruckus that you're looking for, while still sounding great.

Touge_ninja 01-15-2014 11:44 PM

Here is mine.

Setup:
Revworks UEL
AVO Overpipe
J2 Catted Front pipe
Invidia N1

[ame]http://youtu.be/kZy0KKAkBZs[/ame]

IAmNotTheDriftKing 01-16-2014 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1453938)
Unless it can top the drone of the 3" Nameless system with a catless header.... Did all your mirrors shake and windows vibrate around 3k rpm?

It wasn't shaking anything, but it was still pretty droney. I will admit though, with just UEL headers and an N1, the car does sound pretty badass. I daily drive my car, so the noise was way to much. You may like it though.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LCnWU13Ubc&feature=player_detailpage#t=92 "]borla headers invidia N1 exterior video - YouTube[/ame]

JimmyMac 01-16-2014 01:23 AM

I'm not UEL, I'm running P&L EL catted (for the winter/catless for warm weather) with P&L over pipe and catted front pipe with the N1 catback. Drone sucks major on the highway when you get near 3000rpms. So bad for me that I wear head phones on road trips and listen to my music on my phone instead of the stereo. Catless header was slightly worse. I'm currently looking for a catback with less drone. Perrin?

Victor Draken 01-16-2014 04:12 AM

Matt just get a damn Perrin Catback 3" resonated and you will have the perfect combination of deep quite sound.

FR-S Matt 01-16-2014 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmNotTheDriftKing (Post 1454656)
It wasn't shaking anything, but it was still pretty droney. I will admit though, with just UEL headers and an N1, the car does sound pretty badass. I daily drive my car, so the noise was way to much. You may like it though.

borla headers invidia N1 exterior video - YouTube

Yeah, that one is a catless front pipe too, right? Mine is at least catted so I'm hoping the rasp doesn't show up. Even that one didn't sound bad in the video.

FR-S Matt 01-16-2014 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_ninja (Post 1454507)
Here is mine.

Setup:
Revworks UEL
AVO Overpipe
J2 Catted Front pipe
Invidia N1

http://youtu.be/kZy0KKAkBZs

That's about the closest to the setup I was looking for. Hmmmm.

mad_sb 01-16-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1453896)
Anyone running this setup? Recently added a JDL Overpipe + Invidia catted front pipe + Q300 catback to my car along with a JDL UEL. I'm trying to determine if this setup is just "too quiet". Can't hear too much inside the car. Hard to tell if there's even much noise out the back with windows down.

I've already looked on youtube, seen a couple videos sort of close to what I'm looking for but not quite.

Few things I'm wondering about the N1 setup:

A) Is anyone running a catless UEL with a catted Invidia front pipe and the N1? I know there's tons of resonated or catless ones. Specifically looking for the catted since that's what I've got.
B) I've heard drone is reduced by having a catless UEL vs the stock header. True or not?
C) Does it become raspy with this setup?

I like the deepness of the dual canister setup, but the main thing I can't stand is rasp. If it drones a little, I can stand that, but nothing too crazy. Just trying to find that perfect balance of loudness without being too quiet or too raspy. I may stick with the Q300, but the N1 isn't very expensive and the pipe size should keep the sound reasonable.

Yes, I've searched the forums. There's also a million vendor threads with "Invidia N1" in them.

PM me if you decide to get rid of the Q300. Wish i could help on the rest, I am still trying to find the right setup myself.

Bonks86 01-16-2014 09:33 AM

I have the JDL UEL/overpipe catless invidia front pipe and N1 catback. It droned a ton at highway speeds when i did NOT have the header/overpipe on. Now with the header/overpipe and a tune it does not drone and there is little to no rasp even without the catted front pipe. It is super loud... louder than any that I have yet to hear. It would probably only be a bit quieter with the catted front pipe

FR-S Matt 01-16-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 1455083)
PM me if you decide to get rid of the Q300. Wish i could help on the rest, I am still trying to find the right setup myself.

For sure. I'm just making sure I don't rush into a decision I will regret, lol. The Q300 is a very nice system though, no doubt. Almost need to do a driveby video of myself or slap on a Go Pro near the rear so I can get a better understanding of how loud it is from the rear.

FR-S Matt 01-16-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonks86 (Post 1455139)
I have the JDL UEL/overpipe catless invidia front pipe and N1 catback. It droned a ton at highway speeds when i did NOT have the header/overpipe on. Now with the header/overpipe and a tune it does not drone and there is little to no rasp even without the catted front pipe. It is super loud... louder than any that I have yet to hear. It would probably only be a bit quieter with the catted front pipe

This is what I like to hear. I may grab the N1 since I have the catted front pipe for a little more muffle. I saw the video on youtube of the idle rev one with the catless front pipe, rev works UEL, and the N1 and the guy said the same thing in the comments. Droned when he had the stock header and overpipe on, and the drone reduced heavily when the UEL and overpipe went on with the catless front pipe.

FR-S Matt 01-16-2014 06:45 PM

N1 ordered. :thumbup:

Outstanding price too.

Bonks86 01-16-2014 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1456649)
N1 ordered. :thumbup:

Outstanding price too.

Good choice, hmmm kinda makes me want to throw on my stock front pipe and see how it sounds....

FR-S Matt 01-16-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonks86 (Post 1456695)
Good choice, hmmm kinda makes me want to throw on my stock front pipe and see how it sounds....

Its a puzzle indeed. Finding that right note.

andrew5826 01-17-2014 05:50 AM

fup


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blugbox 01-18-2014 02:45 PM

I have the N1 catback with stock header and over/front pipe. On my setup, it drones at highway speeds from 3-3.8k pretty heavily sometimes. I am eagerly awaiting some results here, because I'm searching for a very similar setup.

Scionfrs088 03-02-2014 12:03 AM

I have an invidia N1, catless none res front pipe and invidia overpipe. Idk if I should pick up the jdl uel header or ft 86 speed factory catted uel. I'm afraid if I run a catless header and catless front pipe it'll be too loud/raspy. If anyone has a very similar setup, I'd love to hear sound clips and feedback.

Bg8780 03-02-2014 12:13 AM

Matt, you have the exact setup I'm planning except I plan to go with a JDL catted front pipe. Can you post a video of your setup? lol


Saw you ordered the N1. Are you looking to sell the Q300?

Jolaessss 04-14-2015 02:11 AM

@FR-S Matt Did you ever get this issue resolved? If not, I'm currently running the N1 with catless headers and a frontpipe. I make a sound clip if you'd like.

Ayoitszritchie 04-16-2015 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolaessss (Post 2211793)
@FR-S Matt Did you ever get this issue resolved? If not, I'm currently running the N1 with catless headers and a frontpipe. I make a sound clip if you'd like.

make a sound clip and post it. I'd like to hear it.

Jolaessss 04-21-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayoitszritchie (Post 2214699)
make a sound clip and post it. I'd like to hear it.

https://youtu.be/lMhrRinFKJM

Strife26 11-16-2015 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scionfrs088 (Post 1568254)
I have an invidia N1, catless none res front pipe and invidia overpipe. Idk if I should pick up the jdl uel header or ft 86 speed factory catted uel. I'm afraid if I run a catless header and catless front pipe it'll be too loud/raspy. If anyone has a very similar setup, I'd love to hear sound clips and feedback.

Did you ever hear this? I just installed headers. Everything else has been replaced with after market. It's so loud. I'm working on a clip.

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