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Flashgodspeed 01-13-2014 01:10 AM

Not so slow
 
Probobly because my past cars were a 96 Audi a4 , 97 a4 and a 2001 maxima.. But this car isn't as slow off the line as everyone has been saying lol. At least not to me. Maybe it because my expectations where so low. Wheels screech when I shift hard so I'm happy lol

boxer 2.5 01-13-2014 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashgodspeed (Post 1449080)
Probobly because my past cars were a 96 Audi a4 , 97 a4 and a 2001 maxima.. But this car isn't as slow off the line as everyone has been saying lol. At least not to me. Maybe it because my expectations where so low. Wheels screech when I shift hard so I'm happy lol

No, this car is slow. IN A STRAIGHT LINE. And above 2500ft elevation? The power is just anemic. This car is meant for curves, and pushing to the limit doing so. But a V6 minivan will destroy it in a straight line.:party0030:

Flashgodspeed 01-13-2014 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1449089)
No, this car is slow. IN A STRAIGHT LINE. And above 2500ft elevation? The power is just anemic. This car is meant for curves, and pushing to the limit doing so. But a V6 minivan will destroy it in a straight line.:party0030:

Yea my dad owns a v6 minivan. Not happening.

humfrz 01-13-2014 01:30 AM

Well, @Flashgodspeed, I agree with you. I haven't noticed too many cars making it up to 35 mph (or to the next light) before my FR-S.

@boxer 2.5, my experience around our local 14,000 ft high mountain has been different from yours. Driving at maybe 7/10ths, I haven't held too many vehicles back .... cept sport bikes ..... ;)

humfrz

Whitigir 01-13-2014 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashgodspeed (Post 1449106)
Yea my dad owns a v6 minivan. Not happening.

It will happen, get 4 people in your FRS, and that van, unless your dad van is 1900 model year

ET86 01-13-2014 01:49 AM

I know what you mean. The car isn't fast but it isn't ass slow either. I drive an automatic FRS with fat sticky tires so I can't get the tires to spin if my life depended on it. However, she's peppy and that makes up for the lack of power; that being said I plan on supercharging her in the future.

N1rve 01-13-2014 01:53 AM

Yeah, I have the same impression. I came with a car with 180 ft/lbs of torque and 175 hp.... 180 is a lot more than 151... but the FRS feels a lot faster.

racecat 01-13-2014 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1449089)
No, this car is slow. IN A STRAIGHT LINE.

Yeah, and all my friends want to drag race. :rolleyes:

Oh well, I enjoy the hell out of the pep.

dave77 01-13-2014 02:04 AM

off top of my head guess, was that a sentra spec v? Don't really remember if they had that much torque though. My friend had one. It was awesome back in the day. Front brembos.

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 1449165)
Yeah, I have the same impression. I came with a car with 180 ft/lbs of torque and 175 hp.... 180 is a lot more than 151... but the FRS feels a lot faster.


dave77 01-13-2014 02:04 AM

FRS is pretty sweet at sea level and then esp at cold temps. Get a k&n for a few extra hp too. It's a nice engine. That's what she said.

dave77 01-13-2014 02:05 AM

But 14,000 feet? Holy crap, lol, sounds fun though.

horrorbiz 01-13-2014 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1449089)
No, this car is slow. IN A STRAIGHT LINE. And above 2500ft elevation? The power is just anemic. This car is meant for curves, and pushing to the limit doing so. But a V6 minivan will destroy it in a straight line.:party0030:


People love to say this. Find a minivan that does 0-60 in under 6 seconds. If we're talking destroying the 86, find one that does it under 5.

Flashgodspeed 01-13-2014 02:20 AM

Lol yea. Cars slow... For a sports car. But compared to most cars in it's price range... I'm quite pleased. But I will say.. Most of my fun is had on the off ramp I take when coming home from work :burnrubber:

N1rve 01-13-2014 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dave77 (Post 1449186)
off top of my head guess, was that a sentra spec v? Don't really remember if they had that much torque though. My friend had one. It was awesome back in the day. Front brembos.

Nope nope. Nissan Altima lol.

Flashgodspeed 01-13-2014 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1449144)
It will happen, get 4 people in your FRS, and that van, unless your dad van is 1900 model year

Lol I don't see 4 people fitting . One guy. Or 2 pretty females. 3 if they're all gorgeous.

Osiris 01-13-2014 02:25 AM

Honestly I've raced from digs and from rolls and the only cars that I've lost to were 1. 350Z with full bolt ons. 2. 3.5 Altima Coupe with bolt ons. and 3. fully built srt4.
I've raced newer SI coupes and won. Old civics. Miatas. Integras. You'd be surprised. In the world of NA 4 cylinders it's pretty quick.

humfrz 01-13-2014 02:30 AM

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But 14,000 feet? Holy crap, lol, sounds fun though.

Yepper, and this one is even more fun, at 14,100 ft, with gravel sections (not any more ... :() in a roadster. You see the guard rails .... no? .... because there weren't many of them....:happyanim:

humfrz

Wise 01-13-2014 02:33 AM

I'm happy with this car when I cycle it through the gears. Launching and shifting at 7,000 the car feels fast.

Downshifting to second from 60kph feels fast.

Putting your foot down in the current gear and feeling the torque dip is the main issue.

Can't wait to put headers on and get rid of that.

Flashgodspeed 01-13-2014 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wise (Post 1449229)
I'm happy with this car when I cycle it through the gears. Launching and shifting at 7,000 the car feels fast.

Downshifting to second from 60kph feels fast.

Putting your foot down in the current gear and feeling the torque dip is the main issue.

Can't wait to put headers on and get rid of that.

Have ur eyes on a specific header? And if so do you know if it's street legal? That torque dip is my only issue with the car lol

dave77 01-13-2014 03:10 AM

Street legal? I don't know what that means, but there are several brands of headers out there. IMO best bet is if there is a good local shop that has a header and you could talk to 'em about it etc etc.

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Originally Posted by Flashgodspeed (Post 1449244)
Have ur eyes on a specific header? And if so do you know if it's street legal? That torque dip is my only issue with the car lol


Hagfish 01-13-2014 03:27 AM

Totally agree with OP. I've had mine for 2 wks and I came from an 02 Xterra with 150k miles so this thing feels smokin, and I haven't even really let it loose yet (trying to break in til 1000m).. Many years ago I had a '84 300zx turbo but I've almost forgotten what that was like to drive. I'm sure if I was coming straight from another sports car, things might be different but as Cypher said in The Matrix "Ignorance is bliss".

Bonburner 01-13-2014 04:46 AM

i wouldnt call this car slow ... but i wouldnt call it fast either ..
its a simple balance that Would be nice for a tiny bit more power .. specifically torque imo :X

Carlitoz3 01-13-2014 06:07 AM

Maybe cause I came from an RSX, but stock speed is decent. That being said, cant wait for my nameless parts to arrive in February!

dvdmzjr 01-13-2014 06:43 AM

I've never said an unkind word about my car, but it is all perspective and the roads you drive it on.

My commute to work is essentially two bends and 25 miles of straight. It feels slow, even when I'm doing 75mph. But I took it out for five miles of country road driving the other day, and it felt like a rocket.

21_nola_05 01-13-2014 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 1449165)
Yeah, I have the same impression. I came with a car with 180 ft/lbs of torque and 175 hp.... 180 is a lot more than 151... but the FRS feels a lot faster.


Its funny im coming from a 2013 2.5 camry se
and the frs feels more responsive better throttle response but not by much .

21_nola_05 01-13-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonburner (Post 1449350)
i wouldnt call this car slow ... but i wouldnt call it fast either ..
its a simple balance that Would be nice for a tiny bit more power .. specifically torque imo :X



AGREED !!!!!!!:thumbsup:

thill 01-13-2014 09:54 AM

This has been debated so many times.. It is all relative to what you are used to. For a sports car the FT86 is slow. But this car was not designed for straightline speed. If you want a fast car, you should have bought one. In terms of the majority of cars on the street, it is plenty quick enough but you do have to keep the RPM's high to really get the most out of the car.

-Ozzy- 01-13-2014 02:42 PM

Speed on the current model is the elephant in the room.

But the elephant is sideways (and smiling) :burnrubber:

boxer 2.5 01-13-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by horrorbiz (Post 1449204)
People love to say this. Find a minivan that does 0-60 in under 6 seconds. If we're talking destroying the 86, find one that does it under 5.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/honda/2...-ar157699.html

does it in 7.5... In an auto.
What does the auto frs/brz do? Official 0-60 is 6.3 for 6MT and 8.0 for 6AT.

:word:

kh060 01-13-2014 04:52 PM

My brother still drives my old 1993 Camry LE, 4 cylinder. I thought it was Fast! One time in college, I had 4 of my buddies and me in my Camry and I almost beat the "Laid Law" yellow bus at the stop light. They all laughed at me but hey I thought my Camry was hella fast! Then I moved up to a 2000 Accord, 4 cylinder. Now from that to my FR-S I'm not complaining about the FR-S either, LOL.

horrorbiz 01-13-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1450185)
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/honda/2...-ar157699.html

does it in 7.5... In an auto.
What does the auto frs/brz do? Official 0-60 is 6.3 for 6MT and 8.0 for 6AT.

:word:

So if you use an automatic BRZ it would go about as fast as the Odyssey in a straight line. Quite different than destroying. Most enthusiasts who drive a BRZ would get the manual... and the manual would reach 60mph, 1.5 seconds before the Odyssey. That sounds a bit like "destroying."

djmm 01-13-2014 05:08 PM

Hang on is this car faster than normal Honda civic/accord or Camry?

horrorbiz 01-13-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1450463)
Hang on is this car faster than normal Honda civic/accord or Camry?

It's 3 seconds faster to 60 than a 2013 Civic.
It's 1.5 seconds faster to 60 than a 2013 Accord.
It's .3 seconds slower to 60 than the 2013 V6 Accord (278hp).
It's 2 seconds faster to 60 than a 2013 Camry.
It's .3 seconds slower to 60 than the 2012 Camry V6 (268hp)

Jaywest717 01-13-2014 05:24 PM

My previous car was an automatic 2005 Ford Focus Hatchback with 115 HP. So....this car was QUITE a step up for me. lol I have no complaints.

djmm 01-13-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by horrorbiz (Post 1450480)
It's 3 seconds faster to 60 than a 2013 Civic.
It's 1.5 seconds faster to 60 than a 2013 Accord.
It's .3 seconds slower to 60 than the 2013 V6 Accord (278hp).
It's 2 seconds faster to 60 than a 2013 Camry.
It's .3 seconds slower to 60 than the 2012 Camry V6 (268hp)

That's alright I guess. At least I won't get obliterated by a granny in Camry

SCharged 01-13-2014 05:30 PM

When I was making the decision to buy one, I had a friend who already had one so I was able to test drive extensively. And as much as I was trying to convince myself that it was underpowered, I didn't and I ended up buying one - it just felt well balanced, which is something I had never seen before to this extent. It's been said before, this cars feels like you're wearing it, not driving it...

Of course, I am modding it a bit just for a bit more ''pep''. :)

And no, the car has not been designed for straight line speed (or acceleration really) but it carries so much speed through the bends, even on stock tires, that limited power ends up not mattering much.

252actual 01-13-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1449225)
Yepper, and this one is even more fun, at 14,100 ft, with gravel sections (not any more ... :() in a roadster. You see the guard rails .... no? .... because there weren't many of them....:happyanim:

humfrz



hey humfrz where was this taken at? is it up on Rainier?

Jond63 01-13-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1449225)
Yepper, and this one is even more fun, at 14,100 ft, with gravel sections (not any more ... :() in a roadster. You see the guard rails .... no? .... because there weren't many of them....:happyanim:

humfrz


Where is this?

humfrz 01-13-2014 09:04 PM

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Where is this?

Here ya go ...... ;)

That is one fun run in a sports car ..... :happyanim:

humfrz

Especially if you're playing tag ..... no, I didn't win ..... the fellow from Canada won. Why? Because HIS co-pilot was ..... fearless .....:party0030:

Whitigir 01-13-2014 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1450185)
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/honda/2...-ar157699.html

does it in 7.5... In an auto.
What does the auto frs/brz do? Official 0-60 is 6.3 for 6MT and 8.0 for 6AT.

:word:

Yepe...many people think the 86 will do sub 6 seconds 0-60. It does not, you have 1-2 passengers and it feel horrid.

In fact i agreed with some one said it is relatively comparable to Camry I4.

Camry V6 will smoke 86.

My Rx will also kick it ass with passengers in both.


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