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littletear 01-07-2014 03:11 AM

RocketBunnys for sale
 
For some reason I see that a lot (or some) of the rocketbunnys that people worked on are going for sale...? How come?

636 01-07-2014 03:12 AM

Probably just got bored of the car. It's what some people do with new cars, they buy them, and make them amazing. Get the recognition, and decide to move on to their next project car. Where as I will be keeping this car for years to come, some people just like that thrill of building a car to what they feel is it's peak, selling it, and doing it all over again on a new platform!

moomoopanda 01-07-2014 04:11 AM

Build things too fast, get bored.

dnieves 01-07-2014 06:58 AM

Why is it some people have a natural dislike for OEM and feel compelled to change everything? If they were given a $200k+ supercar would they do the same thing?

Wolfking 01-07-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dnieves (Post 1435223)
Why is it some people have a natural dislike for OEM and feel compelled to change everything? If they were given a $200k+ supercar would they do the same thing?

I believe it's about adding your own personal touch to your machine. I even if I were fortunate enough to have a $$$ vehicle, I'd still like it to reflect "me!"

dnieves 01-07-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfking (Post 1435225)
I believe it's about adding your own personal touch to your machine. I even if I were fortunate enough to have a $$$ vehicle, I'd still like it to reflect "me!"

I can see that -it's a shame when individuality goes overboard then all of a sudden it becomes rice and the car is ruined. Unfortunately this will happen once the car becomes cheap and plentiful in the secondary market.

:thumbdown:

Dreading the day you see beat up twins with whale tails, chrome door/hood/trunk edge protectors and stainless steel fender trim molding.

chriscross_tnt 01-07-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by moomoopanda (Post 1435142)
Build things too fast, get bored.

Agreed. 100% . That's why I take my time. Whenever I start getting bored do another mod. Makes you fall inlove again .

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Wise 01-07-2014 09:02 AM

I want to have my twin be like the Miata from Looper. Showroom quality in 20 years time.

No rice, just flawless paint and a nice set of shoes.

Like a Sir

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/LooperImage1.jpg

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Ryuu0u 01-07-2014 10:31 AM

Well once you go rocket bunny your car is pretty much stuck that way with all the fender cutting. My guess is that they got bored of it and since they can't return it to stock it's just easier to sell it and move on to another car all together. And like most show cars they were just built for advertisement so once they have lived out their purpose there isn't much use for them when the next best thing comes along.

Rampage 01-07-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 636 (Post 1435090)
Probably just got bored of the car. It's what some people do with new cars, they buy them, and make them amazing. Get the recognition, and decide to move on to their next project car. Where as I will be keeping this car for years to come, some people just like that thrill of building a car to what they feel is it's peak, selling it, and doing it all over again on a new platform!

Every mod brings compromises. Some people compromise the hell out of their vehicle and then find out they do not like it so much anymore so they pass it on to someone else and buy something new with the hopes of recouping some of the money they have dumped into it.

There is nothing that compromises the FT86 as much as the RB kit. If a widebodied car is used as a daily driver it will show its age quickly no matter how well it was done. they are pretty much suitable only as a show car or as a drift car where constant maintenance is a given.

Obviously, I am one of those that do mot find the RB kitted cars "amazing" but then that is just my opinion.

userjack6880 01-07-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dnieves (Post 1435250)
I can see that -it's a shame when individuality goes overboard then all of a sudden it becomes rice and the car is ruined. Unfortunately this will happen once the car becomes cheap and plentiful in the secondary market.

:thumbdown:

Dreading the day you see beat up twins with whale tails, chrome door/hood/trunk edge protectors and stainless steel fender trim molding.

When that happens, my not riced-out twin will be all that much more special. Just like any old clean Japanese funcar.

calmtigers 01-07-2014 01:43 PM

They realize that a 2 liter boxer doesnt lug around 10 wide rims very well..

strat61caster 01-07-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dnieves (Post 1435223)
Why is it some people have a natural dislike for OEM and feel compelled to change everything? If they were given a $200k+ supercar would they do the same thing?

Yes.

http://www.complex.com/rides/2013/04...stom-ferraris/

Dr Evil 01-07-2014 01:51 PM

I believe some are some were in the process of switching to the rocket bunny V2

gily25 01-07-2014 01:56 PM

Some people make reckless decisions when purchasing cars (spent too much, wrong choice for family, etc.) and others are on the 18 month new car cycle, some screw up a mod and sell the car before their friends see or rust starts, others just plain don't like the BRZ/FR-S once they own it.

Unless the person tells you the real reason, honestly you're never going to know why they sold their car, but don't let it discourage you from a Rocket Bunny kit if that's what you want.

636 01-07-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 1435435)
Every mod brings compromises. Some people compromise the hell out of their vehicle and then find out they do not like it so much anymore so they pass it on to someone else and buy something new with the hopes of recouping some of the money they have dumped into it.

There is nothing that compromises the FT86 as much as the RB kit. If a widebodied car is used as a daily driver it will show its age quickly no matter how well it was done. they are pretty much suitable only as a show car or as a drift car where constant maintenance is a given.

Obviously, I am one of those that do mot find the RB kitted cars "amazing" but then that is just my opinion.

Curious as to what you meant by "it will show it's age."

Turbo95eg6 01-07-2014 02:23 PM

To pay off the credit cards they built the car with, as always.

Diode Dynamics 01-07-2014 02:31 PM

I do subtle mods here and there. If something goes wrong with the car, I replace it with a better aftermarket component. I'm not one to buy every single part from day 1 and get sick of it.

Adding something new to your car keeps it exciting for a little longer IMO.

Nick C.

Rampage 01-07-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 636 (Post 1435831)
Curious as to what you meant by "it will show it's age."

Normal driving on city and rural streets causes vibrations that make the fiberglass crack over time. The fiberglass will form spyder cracks that show through the paint. Molded in flares show cracks along the molded lines. Riveted flares weaken at the rivets, show cracks and get loose. Cut fenders rust under the flares even if done right if driven in snow or wet climates.
The list goes on. I have seen many beautifully done widebodys over the years that look great when done but within 2 to 3 years they looked like crap. These are cars where either the original owner or the 2nd owner were under the delusion that they could drive the car as a daily.

Widebody kits are best left to the show car circuit.

boxer 2.5 01-07-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dnieves (Post 1435250)
I can see that -it's a shame when individuality goes overboard then all of a sudden it becomes rice and the car is ruined. Unfortunately this will happen once the car becomes cheap and plentiful in the secondary market.

:thumbdown:

Dreading the day you see beat up twins with whale tails, chrome door/hood/trunk edge protectors and stainless steel fender trim molding.

Frs' going for 14-16k in my area now. Most definitely cheap and plentiful.
BRZ's are holding their value a little better.:thumbsup:

chrisl 01-07-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 1435972)
Normal driving on city and rural streets causes vibrations that make the fiberglass crack over time. The fiberglass will form spyder cracks that show through the paint. Molded in flares show cracks along the molded lines. Riveted flares weaken at the rivets, show cracks and get loose. Cut fenders rust under the flares even if done right if driven in snow or wet climates.
The list goes on. I have seen many beautifully done widebodys over the years that look great when done but within 2 to 3 years they looked like crap. These are cars where either the original owner or the 2nd owner were under the delusion that they could drive the car as a daily.

Widebody kits are best left to the show car circuit.

That isn't true of all fiberglass, just poorly done fiberglass. Corvettes have fiberglass bodies, and they look fine after many years if treated right.

636 01-07-2014 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 1435972)
Normal driving on city and rural streets causes vibrations that make the fiberglass crack over time. The fiberglass will form spyder cracks that show through the paint. Molded in flares show cracks along the molded lines. Riveted flares weaken at the rivets, show cracks and get loose. Cut fenders rust under the flares even if done right if driven in snow or wet climates.
The list goes on. I have seen many beautifully done widebodys over the years that look great when done but within 2 to 3 years they looked like crap. These are cars where either the original owner or the 2nd owner were under the delusion that they could drive the car as a daily.

Widebody kits are best left to the show car circuit.

The rocket bunny fender flares are made out of FRP, so there won't be any cracking over time. Good paint/cover up on the cut panels can remove any chance of rust.

If the flares are weakening at the rivets, I'm sure by that time you'll have enough money to buy new flares, or even upgrade to a better kit.

Excluding the hole to the door you make when cutting, which can easily be filled. I'm still not seeing a problem with making a Rocket Bunny a daily.

Rampage 01-07-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 636 (Post 1436233)
The rocket bunny fender flares are made out of FRP, so there won't be any cracking over time. Good paint/cover up on the cut panels can remove any chance of rust.

If the flares are weakening at the rivets, I'm sure by that time you'll have enough money to buy new flares, or even upgrade to a better kit.

Excluding the hole to the door you make when cutting, which can easily be filled. I'm still not seeing a problem with making a Rocket Bunny a daily.

I can only speak from my experience with having seen kitted cars (including FRP) that have a couple years on them. I would not do it as I feel it is hugely detrimental to the value of the car and its durability. YMMV

Tromatic 01-07-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Evil (Post 1435770)
I believe some are some were in the process of switching to the rocket bunny V2

Twice the fugly, twice the price?

Ponwh 01-07-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1436432)
Twice the fugly, twice the price?

Looks pretty sexy to me. Worth the price.

kodyo 01-07-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1436020)
Frs' going for 14-16k in my area now. Most definitely cheap and plentiful.
BRZ's are holding their value a little better.:thumbsup:

Salvage title? The only ones I've ever seen even close to that are salvage title.

boxer 2.5 01-08-2014 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kodyo (Post 1436762)
Salvage title? The only ones I've ever seen even close to that are salvage title.

Nope. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4184080770.html
Emailed him, offered 17,500, he came back with 18,500.

They're cheap.:eyebulge:

BMHumanic 01-08-2014 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dnieves (Post 1435223)
Why is it some people have a natural dislike for OEM and feel compelled to change everything? If they were given a $200k+ supercar would they do the same thing?

Yes, and its arguably the most beautiful car in existence

gily25 01-08-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1437421)
Nope. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4184080770.html
Emailed him, offered 17,500, he came back with 18,500.

They're cheap.:eyebulge:

Most likely, tying to back out of the loan rather than get private party value. Willing to take a hit because the owner can no longer make the payments.

Diode Dynamics 01-08-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BMHumanic (Post 1437534)
Yes, and its arguably the most beautiful car in existence

I saw it at the 2013 SEMA show. If you think it looks good in pictures, wait until you see it in person :bow:

Nick C.

Hawaiian 01-08-2014 01:02 PM

Hate the rivet look.

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Originally Posted by BMHumanic (Post 1437534)
Yes, and its arguably the most beautiful car in existence


tmcmullins 01-08-2014 01:41 PM

I previously owned an integra that I modified. I didn't know if I wanted to go down that route again with my FR-S. After a lot of research and weighing out the pros and cons, I decided to just keep it stock. I didn't go to school to be a mechanic or anything related to building cars, so how could I possibly make the car better than what the professionals already delivered?

Here's a good article from Richard Hammond that swayed my decisions.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/richard-ha...uly-2011-07-26

SergeLo01 01-08-2014 02:18 PM

Stock is underrated
 
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Originally Posted by tmcmullins (Post 1438071)
After a lot of research and weighing out the pros and cons, I decided to just keep it stock.

I will be going the same route. All I will do is paint the wheels black with plasti dip and enjoy that for as long as I like it. Peel it off in a couple years when I want to go 100% stock again.
A car like this will be more rare stock... IMO.

Tromatic 01-08-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BMHumanic (Post 1437534)
Yes, and its arguably the most beautiful car in existence

Please post your argument in favor of that thing.

Turbo95eg6 01-08-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boxer 2.5 (Post 1437421)
Nope. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4184080770.html
Emailed him, offered 17,500, he came back with 18,500.

They're cheap.:eyebulge:

Waiting for the one listed for $14k

BMHumanic 01-08-2014 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1438403)
Please post your argument in favor of that thing.

Its a beautiful JDM touch to an Italian body. The whole concept behind TRA_Kyoto is making a statement, building cars that shock. You either hate it or you love it and regardless they don't care. That's what I love about it. Its beautiful, its unique, its something no one else has ever done.

BMHumanic 01-08-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 1437955)
Hate the rivet look.

I would agree to an extent. It looks good on certain cars, it adds agression. Personally if I were to get a Rocket Bunny kit (which I would love to if I could afford it) i would mold the fenders to the body.

BMHumanic 01-08-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics (Post 1437941)
I saw it at the 2013 SEMA show. If you think it looks good in pictures, wait until you see it in person :bow:

Nick C.

I saw it at the L.A. Auto Show. Didnt know it was there, was walking around downstairs with my girlfriend and nearly had a heart attack and definitely cried it was so beautiful (even she almost cried at the beauty).


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