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Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 02:00 PM

OpenFlash Tablet: OFT 3-Touch Programming with Preloaded Tune File Database
 
Hi guys,
We have been working long hours these past few weeks to have this feature ready to launch by Jan 1st :) This update is primarily intended for the vast majority of users who want a more streamlined experience with using the OFT. Not everyone likes to fiddle with COM ports, cables or installers.

In fact, the purpose of this feature is to COMPLETELY eliminate the use of the laptop computer when using the OFT to write our free OTS files to the ECU. Currently, the OFT installation process consists of:

1) Download and install the OpenFlash Manager and OTS Map file from our website
2) Plug OFT into vehicle and read factory ECU
3) Uplug OFT from vehicle and plug into laptop via USB cable
4) Determine CAL ID from OpenFlash Manager software
5) Download maps from website and locate the map folder with your CAL ID
6) Manually upload the desired maps from you laptop to the OFT through the OpenFlash Manager software.
7) Go back out to vehicle, plug in the OFT, select Write menu and pick which one of the maps that you loaded (in step 5) you want to be written to the ECU

Total Requirements: OFT, A stable windows laptop, wifi connection, and 10-20 minutes with basic computer knowledge

Nothing terrible by any means. But there is always a question of operating system compliances, USB cable functionality, USB port compatibility, and those pesky computer gnomes that make life difficult from time to time. But we are always looking for ways to make the customer experience easier, SAFER, and more streamlined.

With the new OFT 3 Touch Programming feature, he's the whole process:
1) Plug OFT into vehicle and read factory ECU
2) After the 2 minute read is complete, the OFT will automatically generate and save up to discrete 5 tunes based upon your CAL ID (Stage 1, Stage 2 UEL, Stage 2 EL, Stage 2 UEL E85 and Stage 2 EL 85)
3) Go to tuning screen, pick which map you want and press "Write".

Total Requirements: 6 minutes and a functional finger

No laptop required. No need to even get out of your vehicle. And of course, your original ROM (that was saved in Step 1) is still stored safely in the OFT in case you ever need to revert back to 100% stock for any reason.

A couple things to know about pre-loaded/automatically generated maps.
-While you will see them in your list of 5 available tunes, hey cannot be downloaded from the OFT. They are read-protected. This is to provide dealers with the ability to lock their maps as to make CARB happy when it comes to approving turbo/sc kits.
-However, one or all of the preloaded maps can be over-written through the OpenFlash Manager software. Once overwritten with another files, those new files can be downloaded, viewed, edited, etc,. as usual.
-OTS will be shipping with this Preloaded Map File Database (over 50 different maps for different mods and different ROM types, both US and nonUS). The OFT will only display the ones that are compatible with your ROM type.
-Existing customers can upload this Map File Database themselves. The Database will be available on the website in the form of a database file (.dev). They can be loaded in your OFT using the new "ModFile Database" feature that you probably saw (and ignored) in the latest OF Manager software release :)

You'll be happy to know that loading 5 maps to the OFT through this feature only takes a few seconds, vs nearly 1 minute for loading maps the old way through the Uploads section.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...506/3touch.jpg

bakerr6 12-20-2013 02:07 PM

-While you will see them in your list of 5 available tunes, hey cannot be downloaded from the OFT. They are read-protected. This is to provide dealers with the ability to lock their maps as to make CARB happy when it comes to approving turbo/sc kits.


Hmm I see what you did there. I'm patiently waiting :)

Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakerr6 (Post 1402806)
-While you will see them in your list of 5 available tunes, hey cannot be downloaded from the OFT. They are read-protected. This is to provide dealers with the ability to lock their maps as to make CARB happy when it comes to approving turbo/sc kits.


Hmm I see what you did there. I'm patiently waiting :)

:bellyroll: I am too :)

But the main purpose of this update is to make the user experience much simpler. Not that it was terribly complicated to begin with. For those who are uncomfortable with programming their car (yes, they are the usually silent majority), this new system makes it incredibility easy and risk-free.

Of course, it also provides for a mean to those developers who want to protect their work yet still make it accessible (but not readable) to those who want to enjoy it.

Victor Draken 12-20-2013 02:26 PM

What about the map available Now on the website are you gonna keep them updated or not? I mean some ppl would like to modify the stage 2 uel for example but i dont see how can you do it if they are not readable and already installed in the OFT

Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor Draken (Post 1402873)
What about the map available Now on the website are you gonna keep them updated or not? I mean some ppl would like to modify the stage 2 uel for example but i dont see how can you do it if they are not readable and already installed in the OFT

The OTS maps that are downloadable off the website are going to remain as they are (unlocked and editable). No change there. The only difference is that new customers will either have to run the preloaded Map database tunes as-is. Or simply upload the same OTS maps from the website and get busy with them. The needs of both the basic users and more expert self-tuners are accounted for.

Locking preloaded maps was simply a concession made for the needs of certain tuners and turbo/sc kit manufacturers. As well as CARB compliance.

SkullWorks 12-20-2013 03:03 PM

Smart approach, Everything is still as open as it ever was, but now tuners and CARB compliance seekers, have a tool that fulfills some niche needs.

Fallen43 12-20-2013 03:13 PM

Question once the modfiles have been updated on the OFT i assume I will no longer need my laptop either at that point. ?

garfull 12-20-2013 03:56 PM

What about newly released updated maps? The OFT will still need to be connected to a laptop to get those updates or the OFT wont have the latest and greatest?

I might be in the minority, but I personally don't have any issue with connecting to the laptop. I like being able to view the maps and see what changes have been made from one revision to the next.

Keep up the great work and awesome updates!

Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen43 (Post 1402987)
Question once the modfiles have been updated on the OFT i assume I will no longer need my laptop either at that point. ?

Correct you would not need your laptop once maps are preloaded into the OFT. The only time you would want to use it is to connecting your OFT to it for updates/improvements or to download/view datalogs. But still, much data viewing can be done natively on the OFT screen.

Shiv

Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garfull (Post 1403072)
What about newly released updated maps? The OFT will still need to be connected to a laptop to get those updates or the OFT wont have the latest and greatest?

I might be in the minority, but I personally don't have any issue with connecting to the laptop. I like being able to view the maps and see what changes have been made from one revision to the next.

Keep up the great work and awesome updates!

Yes, newest released maps will be released in both formats (preloaded database) and in on-site download. If that is what you prefer, nothing is changing. All we are doing is offering an option for those who don't want to muck with computers.

jeebus 12-20-2013 05:30 PM

Congratulations on all of this, though admittedly these are not features I have any desire for. I'd like to ask one small favor though...when deploying this major feature update, please test the hell out of it before all of our OFTs auto-update to it. This seems like the sort of update that could really bork the devices if not tested fully.

Superhatch 12-20-2013 05:42 PM

After reading your 'no need for flex-fuel kit' post I was wondering about something like this. In essence this should allow me to fill up a tank of E85 (or close to it), switch to my E85 map and run that map until I decide to move back to a 93RON tune. Once I'm full of 93 I can very easily switch back to my 93 tune w/o needing to pull out a laptop, do a bunch of wire swapping and spend 20m sitting at the pump before starting up.

If this is the case, it reminds me a lot of the Accessport which some of my STI/WRX friends use, but cheaper, and with open source tunes. Win/win in my book!

1086 12-20-2013 05:53 PM

Where is the ANY key??

jeebus 12-20-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superhatch (Post 1403323)
After reading your 'no need for flex-fuel kit' post I was wondering about something like this. In essence this should allow me to fill up a tank of E85 (or close to it), switch to my E85 map and run that map until I decide to move back to a 93RON tune. Once I'm full of 93 I can very easily switch back to my 93 tune w/o needing to pull out a laptop, do a bunch of wire swapping and spend 20m sitting at the pump before starting up.

If this is the case, it reminds me a lot of the Accessport which some of my STI/WRX friends use, but cheaper, and with open source tunes. Win/win in my book!

you could do this before this update. The OFT holds 5 maps in it right now.

Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1086 (Post 1403343)
Where is the ANY key??

What's that?

1086 12-20-2013 06:48 PM

Sorry I was just attempting to be comical.
In your post, Total Requirements: basic computer knowledge

Great update though! Can't wait to take advantage of it during my break.

zex 12-20-2013 07:29 PM

So we will have a choice between the current system and the new 3 button process?
I kind of like the current process better

steve99 12-20-2013 08:15 PM

With this updare can you still copy your original ROM from the OFT to the laptop to store a backup copy in case the OFT craps itself or needs a full reset. I would hate to loose my stock ROM

Shiv@Openflash 12-20-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 1403570)
With this updare can you still copy your original ROM from the OFT to the laptop to store a backup copy in case the OFT craps itself or needs a full reset. I would hate to loose my stock ROM

Current users need not take advantage of this update. It's mainly an alternative for new users who want a simple tuning solution. Those who are happy doing what they are currently doing via laptop and OpenFlash manager, can continue to do the same.

And of course, regardless of what choice you make (preloaded map database vs loading your own maps) your stock file is always saved and available to download and back-up.

Superhatch 12-20-2013 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 1403434)
you could do this before this update. The OFT holds 5 maps in it right now.

Ah...after re-reading for the third time I think I have it now...this was just for the initial setup?

jamesm 12-21-2013 12:47 AM

that'll definitely make for a lot friendlier process for people who aren't into messing with such things. hooking a computer up to your car scares a lot of people away.

Shiv@Openflash 12-23-2013 02:45 PM

Hi guys,
Quick update:

Finally got this working last night :) And we also have brand new v1.50 OTS maps ready to launch as well. Perhaps a good trial run for those willing to give this a go would be launch the new maps in Tune File Database (.dev) format. One very nice thing about this new format is that each tune files is no longer a 1.3mb ROM file. Instead, the .dev file a set of instructions given to the OFT processor on how to modify the original/stock ROM. This saves a lot of space and uploading-to-OFT time. For instead, our first database file will contain nearly 50 maps (all C, D, G, I, J, N and O ROMs supported) and will be less than 500k in size. As opposed to 65mb! (50x1.3mb) in standard ROM (.bin) format. In database format, these tune files will not be downloadable (from the OFT) but they will eventually be posted in standard .bin format on the website. That will allow you to view and edit as normal.

Later this week, I'll let you guys know when this is ready for ya :)

Cheers
shiv

Grip Ronin 12-23-2013 02:54 PM

any plan to add features that control tcs? like removing that 8 second delay for cutting it off... also to adjust hard and soft redlines

Shiv@Openflash 12-23-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grip Ronin (Post 1407925)
any plan to add features that control tcs? like removing that 8 second delay for cutting it off... also to adjust hard and soft redlines

No plans to do any changes to how TCS is enabled/disabled due to liability concerns. You can already adjust the hardness/softness by either changing the hysteresis value (RPM delta between the on/off rev limits values) and/or by adjusting the ignition advance values in the last RPM breakpoint which provides torque reduction just before fuel cut.

jeebus 12-23-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1407902)
Hi guys,
Quick update:

Finally got this working last night :) And we also have brand new v1.50 OTS maps ready to launch as well. Perhaps a good trial run for those willing to give this a go would be launch the new maps in Tune File Database (.dev) format. One very nice thing about this new format is that each tune files is no longer a 1.3mb ROM file. Instead, the .dev file a set of instructions given to the OFT processor on how to modify the original/stock ROM. This saves a lot of space and uploading-to-OFT time. For instead, our first database file will contain nearly 50 maps (all C, D, G, I, J, N and O ROMs supported) and will be less than 500k in size. As opposed to 65mb! (50x1.3mb) in standard ROM (.bin) format. In database format, these tune files will not be downloadable (from the OFT) but they will eventually be posted in standard .bin format on the website. That will allow you to view and edit as normal.

Later this week, I'll let you guys know when this is ready for ya :)

Cheers
shiv


How much flash memory is on the OFT?

Shiv@Openflash 12-23-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 1407985)
How much flash memory is on the OFT?

256mb. More than enough to store 200+ complete ROMs but we think there is a more interesting way to make use of that storage. 2014 is going to be an interesting year.

Mike86 12-23-2013 05:11 PM

What will be the differences in the 1.50 ots maps as compared to the 1.34 ?

Shiv@Openflash 12-23-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 1408192)
What will be the differences in the 1.50 ots maps as compared to the 1.34 ?

v1.50 Changes:
-Closed loop mapping changes for all gasoline (non E85) ROMs.
-AVCS mapping changes for all gasoline (non E85) ROMs.
-Added full RomRaider XML support for ZA1JA01O and ZA1JA01I ROMs

CamryDS 12-23-2013 06:22 PM

look forward to flashing this as well =D

8686 12-27-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1408278)
v1.50 Changes:

-Closed loop mapping changes for all gasoline (non E85) ROMs.

-AVCS mapping changes for all gasoline (non E85) ROMs.

-Added full RomRaider XML support for ZA1JA01O and ZA1JA01I ROMs


Can you run this update to K series maps please.


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Shiv@Openflash 12-27-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8686 (Post 1414503)
Can you run this update to K series maps please.


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Yes indeed, K series ROMs will be included in our next OTS map release.

MarcusM117 12-29-2013 01:13 PM

Will it be possible to modify the .dev file?

The only thing I use Tuner Pro for is to change LC down to 4000 RPM. It would be handy to be able to modify the .dev file instead of a 93 octane file and a E85. It would only save 2 minutes but just curious!

FrsDuke 12-29-2013 01:25 PM

Think the .dev files are going to be locked. Seem to recall something about locking them helping with carb and some other stuff. I could also see a slight error in .dev tinkering turning into much larger issues so maybe it's not the safest approach even if it saves a little time.

Shiv@Openflash 12-29-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusM117 (Post 1417748)
Will it be possible to modify the .dev file?

The only thing I use Tuner Pro for is to change LC down to 4000 RPM. It would be handy to be able to modify the .dev file instead of a 93 octane file and a E85. It would only save 2 minutes but just curious!

Maps loaded through a .dev file will not be downloadable from the OFT. Only maps files (.bin) that you upload traditionally will be downloadable. However, we are considering the possibility to have LC and FFS functions be adjustable through the OFT itself (not through laptop) so no downloading to laptop would be necessary.

Shiv

FrsDuke 12-29-2013 03:37 PM

Now that's awesome

Malt 12-30-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1408278)
v1.50 Changes:
-Closed loop mapping changes for all gasoline (non E85) ROMs.
-AVCS mapping changes for all gasoline (non E85) ROMs.
-Added full RomRaider XML support for ZA1JA01O and ZA1JA01I ROMs

So about those new maps ;)

Sojhinn 12-31-2013 05:09 PM

I know I'm a small majority of 1, but any of these updates useful for me shiv?

coastertrav 01-02-2014 10:48 AM

So I should be getting my used Openflash Tablet in the mail in the next hour. How do I make sure its updated and has this feature when I go to flash my car after work?

jamesm 01-02-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coastertrav (Post 1424780)
So I should be getting my used Openflash Tablet in the mail in the next hour. How do I make sure its updated and has this feature when I go to flash my car after work?

i don't know but you should bring it by so i can play with it, you're local :)

CajunFRS 01-02-2014 12:33 PM

^^ LOL


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