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Shiv@Openflash 12-19-2013 03:23 PM
OpenFlash Tablet: RomRaider parameters for Launch Control and Flat-foot Shift
 
Now Available :)

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...omraiderlc.jpg

Much thanks for @vgi and @Td-d for updating the XML file. All 700c, 900c, a00c and a01c XMLs have been updated and are downloadable from the OpenFlash Tablet website.

I'll be working on porting FFS and LC to non-USDM 6MT ROMs over the holidays.

Cheers,
shiv

vynervt 12-19-2013 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1400591)
Now Available :)

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...omraiderlc.jpg

Much thanks for @vgi and @Td-d for updating the XML file. All 700c, 900c, a00c and a01c XMLs have been updated and are downloadable from the OpenFlash Tablet website.

I'll be working on porting FFS and LC to non-USDM 6MT ROMs over the holidays.

Cheers,
shiv
:w00t:

brn12345 12-20-2013 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1400591)
Now Available :)



I'll be working on porting FFS and LC to non-USDM 6MT ROMs over the holidays.

Cheers,
shiv
Looking forward!!!!!

BobbyBlue86 01-25-2014 02:13 PM
You should post up a quick little tutorial to show how to work this stuff. Us new guys want to learn, but this stuff is a language we don't speak. :P

Travisty75 01-28-2014 07:22 AM
What is this type of launch control? Is it a true 2-step? I had the Carberry ROM on my last WRX, and I'm looking to eventually have those features again with this car (rotational idle, 2-step, FFS, Anti-lag, etc), and for the time being ECUtek looks like the only viable option for those features: are any of those features planned for the OFT?

FrsDuke 01-28-2014 11:23 AM
sets a stationary rev limiter so while sitting still it will only rev to that RPM. Once moving you can rev to the buttery smooth rev limiter at 7500ish or whatever it is exactly.

bakerr6 01-28-2014 04:32 PM
I've been waiting on this. I'll give it a try after tax season.

Any updated on tuning any other FI platforms besides the ESC?

Luckrider 01-28-2014 04:42 PM
Supposedly next month or in March we should be expecting tunes for one or two supercharges, and possibly a CARB legal tune too (although that doesn't matter to you I guess).

CaptainSlow 01-28-2014 06:19 PM
SO, if I have an OFT...how do I go about getting this feature to work on my car? Is it in one of the released maps, or is it in the beta maps only? Do you have to modify anything? How do you set the RPM using the OFT, or is that something you have to dig into the file to do? As mentioned above, it'd be great to explain in layman's terms because some of us (ie, me) are pretty noobish when it comes to this kind of thing, but would still really like to enjoy the feature.

Luckrider 01-28-2014 11:04 PM
By default, launch control is on. Just hold in the clutch and it will rev to (I think) 5600 RPM and hold it there. You can adjust this speed by installing RomRaider and the XML definitions for our cars and modifying the one table. That table is the LC delta which is a value subtracted from redline that will yield your LC speed. FFS is different and must be turned on in RomRaider. To be perfectly honest, skip it.

PMok 01-29-2014 02:44 AM
any thoughts on what RPM is recommended for LC? 5600 seems a bit high. I know it will vary depending on conditions, tires used, power mods etc... maybe people can suggest a baseline setting for a totally stock car, and another for a mildly modded stage 1, and another for a stage 2 car.

steve99 01-29-2014 05:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMok (Post 1488097)
any thoughts on what RPM is recommended for LC? 5600 seems a bit high. I know it will vary depending on conditions, tires used, power mods etc... maybe people can suggest a baseline setting for a totally stock car, and another for a mildly modded stage 1, and another for a stage 2 car.
So many variables, think your just going to ha e to try it out , maybe start at 4000 so insert 3600 in table 7600 -3600=4000 and then adjust from there, its never going to suit all conditions and road surfaces.

CaptainSlow 01-29-2014 08:12 AM
These are built in the current released 1.4x maps or are they in the beta 1.5x maps only?

steve99 01-29-2014 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 1488264)
These are built in the current released 1.4x maps or are they in the beta 1.5x maps only?

From memory it was supported in US ROM's from 1.4 and others in 1.5 (cannot adjust in 1.5 as its dev format.

CaptainSlow 01-29-2014 09:50 AM
OK thanks!

CaptainSlow 01-30-2014 09:57 AM
Tested it last night (I have a beta 1.4X tune on the car at the moment...need to update I guess)...can confirm launch control is active on those maps, and is set around the 5500 rpm range.

2point0 01-30-2014 03:37 PM
Does this go for TunerPro as well? I recall seeing the fields, but wasn't sure what to do with them.

steve99 01-30-2014 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 1492055)
Does this go for TunerPro as well? I recall seeing the fields, but wasn't sure what to do with them.

The parameters are defined for tunepro in the XDF files for C series ROM's (see first post be shiv for defined ROM's

If you open the XDF in notepad or similar text editor/viewer and search for them ie FFS or Launch their is some info on setting these parameters.

CaptainSlow 01-30-2014 09:58 PM
Edit...nevermind. I was being an idiot. Original post is quoted below, but I didn't want to leave my OP here because there was actually no issue other than user error.

steve99 01-30-2014 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 1493003)
OK, bit of an issue (or maybe it's not...you be the judge).

I had a beta version of the 93 Octane Stage 1 1.42 map installed on my car. I tested it yesterday and found that it did indeed have launch control...with the clutch in the revs would not pass 5600RPM...here is a capture of the parameters for that tune file:

http://i.imgur.com/q134jRx.jpg

I downloaded the new released 1.42 maps today and modified the 93 Octane Stage 1 and E85 EL Stage 2 maps to have a LC setting of 3600 (would equate to a 4000 RPM limiter) and FFS of 600 (so the RPMs would max at 7000 when using FFS). I saved these new files as "93 Octane v1.42 (FFS+LC).bin" and "E85 v1.42 (FFS+LC).bin" - NOTE - I did actually type ".bin" at the end of the file name when I was naming it - didn't seem to automatically attach that file type when I didn't the first time. Not sure if that matters or not.

Here are the two sets of parameters:

93 Octane v1.42 (unmodified)

http://i.imgur.com/vc5Othb.jpg

93 Octane v1.42 (modified FFS and LC)

http://i.imgur.com/aFudOvQ.jpg

I loaded the modified map onto my car, but the launch control doesn't seem to be working. I pushed the clutch in and tried revving, but it just revved near redline, so I just let up. Tried that a couple of times, but got the same results. The car wasn't fully warmed up...not sure if that matters? Anyway, just wondering what, if anything, might be going on? It's not a huge deal, but I would like to know why it's not working now.

I didn't try the base released v1.42 map as an intermediate, but like I said, it was working with the beta v1.42 map. Anyway, figured I probably did something wrong, so just wondering if anyone sees anything obvious or has an answer for what might be going on.

Thanks!

Did you also point Tunerpro at the "new" XDF file corresponding to the new bin files ??
Bin files and XDF's must match

CaptainSlow 01-30-2014 10:26 PM
Yeah...turns out im a moron. Im an idiot and accidentally flashed the stock file instead of the new tuned file. I thought I had selected it but I was wrong. Loaded it up again and it works like a charm...revs stay right at 4k :)

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Danklvr 02-03-2014 03:34 PM
not supported for B01C roms yet - FYI if you have a B01C rom and are looking for this in RomRaider.

Shiv@Openflash 02-06-2014 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danklvr (Post 1500938)
not supported for B01C roms yet - FYI if you have a B01C rom and are looking for this in RomRaider.
Launch control and FFS does not supported in the new 2014 B series ROMs just yet.

Proof 02-16-2014 08:37 PM
Is there anyone who can walk me though getting Romraider to even friggin work?! I have been screwing around for two hours and cant get it to even open a file. I feel like a moron but cant cant seem to find what I am doing wrong. Are there any walk-thru?

Proof 02-16-2014 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1508564)
Launch control and FFS does not supported in the new 2014 B series ROMs just yet.

I assume this applies to the 800C and timeline on this?

DEK186 02-21-2014 09:36 PM
Will flashing the same rom with different LC & FFS parameters require the ECU to learn trims again and so on?? I am thinking of saving a few roms with different LC & FFS parameters and flashing between them to test them out on the track this afternoon. Would hate to have a shit run down the quarter because my ECU hasn't learnt what it needs to in 400m.

steve99 02-21-2014 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEK186 (Post 1548721)
Will flashing the same rom with different LC & FFS parameters require the ECU to learn trims again and so on?? I am thinking of saving a few roms with different LC & FFS parameters and flashing between them to test them out on the track this afternoon. Would hate to have a shit run down the quarter because my ECU hasn't learnt what it needs to in 400m.

Yes , your erasing then flashing entire ROM, it will need learning time

t1ao 03-28-2014 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1508564)
Launch control and FFS does not supported in the new 2014 B series ROMs just yet.
I currently have B00C, would i be fine using A01C, so i could use launch control?

l0aded 04-01-2014 05:59 PM
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Trying to edit the launch control. Should I be worried?

Loaded the XML file "._RR_ZA1JA00C" into ROMRaider, opened up the bin file "Stg1 A00C" and it showed me this..
My CAL is A00C. It still loads after giving me this message but I'm hesitant to flash it with this message lol.

steve99 04-01-2014 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 1642102)
Trying to edit the launch control. Should I be worried?

Loaded the XML file "._RR_ZA1JA00C" into ROMRaider, opened up the bin file "Stg1 A00C" and it showed me this..
My CAL is A00C. It still loads after giving me this message but I'm hesitant to flash it with this message lol.
You need to get the definition files from the openflash site here (bottom of page)
http://openflashtablet.com/products/...ads/index.html

As I think the defs from RR are on a different github branch and don't have LC tables defined.

The checksum message is normal as OFT ROM's are not check sum corrected, when you save rom it will be corrected and the OFT would correct it anyway

l0aded 04-01-2014 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 1642118)
You need to get the definition files from the openflash site here (bottom of page)
http://openflashtablet.com/products/...ads/index.html

As I think the defs from RR are on a different github branch and don't have LC tables defined.

The checksum message is normal as OFT ROM's are not check sum corrected, when you save rom it will be corrected and the OFT would correct it anyway
I downloaded the romraided XML from the OFT website. Just so I understand clearly this is normal or doesn't matter correct? When I save it the checksum would be fixed anyways?

steve99 04-01-2014 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 1642238)
I downloaded the romraided XML from the OFT website. Just so I understand clearly this is normal or doesn't matter correct? When I save it the checksum would be fixed anyways?
Yes. whenever you save a ROM in RR it fixs the checksum1.

you also get an error re checksum2 you can ignore that one.

I think the OFT ROM's are done with tunepro which does not correct the checksum.

Mirko 04-04-2014 03:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1400591)

I'll be working on porting FFS and LC to non-USDM 6MT ROMs over the holidays.
Is this out yet? :drool:

Mirko 04-04-2014 06:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirko (Post 1648290)
Is this out yet? :drool:

Well, if it is, Im having a hard time making it work. :(

(first time using RomRaider, took the occasion since I also had to erase a CEL)

Here is what I did:

1- Downloaded the RR xml definition file, RR_ZA1JA01G in my case

2- Added it in the RR ecu definition manager

3- Then started messing around, opening all sort of files (.bin, my supposed original tune, beta tunes, ....)
Somehow I managed to fix the cel on my current tune and also uploaded it successfully on the oft.

But I did not find a way to have the "Alpha BRZ FFS/LC" thing appear on RR left column. Any suggestions? Sorry to bother you guys today, Im doing my best to learn..

I already watched all of Shiv's tutorials on youtube.

Thank you

steve99 04-04-2014 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirko (Post 1648334)
Well, if it is, Im having a hard time making it work. :(

(first time using RomRaider, took the occasion since I also had to erase a CEL)

Here is what I did:

1- Downloaded the RR xml definition file, RR_ZA1JA01G in my case

2- Added it in the RR ecu definition manager

3- Then started messing around, opening all sort of files (.bin, my supposed original tune, beta tunes, ....)
Somehow I managed to fix the cel on my current tune and also uploaded it successfully on the oft.

But I did not find a way to have the "Alpha BRZ FFS/LC" thing appear on RR left column. Any suggestions? Sorry to bother you guys today, Im doing my best to learn..

I already watched all of Shiv's tutorials on youtube.

Thank you
Make sure you get the romraider def from the openflash downloads the "standard ones on RR don't have lc/ffs tables defined.
http://openflashtablet.com/products/...ads/index.html

Also you cannot enable lc/ffs on a stock rom its needs to be a patched rom ie an openflash tablet vishnu rom as they have been patched with extra code for ffs/lc

DC2R 04-06-2014 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by t1ao (Post 1633481)
I currently have B00C, would i be fine using A01C, so i could use launch control?
I would like to know this too. i spent a lot of time trying to find parameters in my B00C bin like an idiot before i read this. Can we flash another version or should we wait for implementation. Also i see all Vishnu tutorials are in TunerPro. Where can we find XDF files for this?

FrsDuke 04-08-2014 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danklvr (Post 1500938)
not supported for B01C roms yet - FYI if you have a B01C rom and are looking for this in RomRaider.
Finally got off the 1.5x dev and figured I'd set LC on my b01c.
Still not defined in RomRaider?

Not a big deal, just figured I'd play a bit with romraider is all 8)...

Danklvr 04-08-2014 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrsDuke (Post 1658207)
Finally got off the 1.5x dev and figured I'd set LC on my b01c.
Still not defined in RomRaider?

Not a big deal, just figured I'd play a bit with romraider is all 8)...
not yet as far as i know, i am still waiting as well. Probly not a feature i'd actually use, but would be fun to try a couple times on a deserted road.

Most likely will be included in Shiv's next round of OTS map updates.
I heard rumours a while back that 1.6 maps were in testing.

KslayFRZ 04-20-2014 08:25 PM
Still nothing on the bo1c LC?

KslayFRZ 04-20-2014 09:45 PM
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Am i right?


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