Las Vegas Media Long Lead Event, 4/20/2012 Scion FRS
 

http://www.club4ag.com/Events_Pages/FRS_Experience.htm

Does this FRS deserve the Hachiroku name? I think it does, because I can refer either the AE86 or the FT86 in the old phrase, You don't know how to drive, till you master the Hachiroku ---Moto Miwa

Wow. Thanks for sharing!

Moto-P! Good to see you here (I've been a long time member of Club4ag).

Awesome, thanks!

Well damn, you beat me to post your review. LOL

It was an awesome review!

Sweet more reviews from community members. This car must feel like a dream come true Moto. I know everyone on club4ag has been speculating about a "new" AE86 for many years.

It really is. Well it wasn't a dream as much as something like a baby with a 6 year pregnancy, LOL!

"Then I thought about the time I tried in a NSX… Can this car be THAT balanced where it just can’t push enough weight around and over to hold a steady state at 10mph due to sheer lack of traction on deep water? Is the car that good? Is the threshold of balance so thin in this particular case where simple depth of water and surface change can upset the balance?
Then I set out again, not minding the AE86-ness much, and being as delicate and fine toed with my shoes as the old NSX mode. Success! The answers to the previous questions were, YES, YES, and YES. The FRS is so well balanced on the four tires, and making the low-grip Eco tires do so much work, that upsetting the car at only 10mph, and with hydro-planing depth affected the contact patch a LOT more than the usual car we are accustomed to do it with. Front and rear just has to be very evenly poised to hold a drift in this car at this trick.
But you know what? This is a sign… It is a sign that I should be REALLY happy, as this car just totally required 100% of my concentration already. And to be totally proficient at this trick, I would need another 10 years of fun-filled practice with a teacher like FRS! 25 points!! On the skidpad, this is a same caliber car as a Lotus Elise S2! At 1/3 the price tag!"

Nice!

Hahahaha. I know what you mean. I miss my AE86 more than I thought I'd miss a car. This feels like that all over again. Your review really solidifies this for me. I can't wait to finally sit behind the wheel of this car, and start the adventure of learning, tuning, and loving it.

Thanks for sharing Moto-san! It looks like you and Ichi had fun @ Spring Mountain. Seeing Ichi's video of Spring Mountain looks completely different than the last time I was there. It looks like a whole new track with a lot of new amenities!

Well written and very thorough. Nice job!

Go SCION to host such Event !!!!!

What an Experience !!!

This is the best review so far, hands down. Thanks for sharing

That was a long review, but soooo freaking awesome!!!!

I loved it! And I want Scion to have a drive event in Dallas NOW!!!

thanks for the great review Moto-san, Im glad we had a chance to grab breakfast in Long Beach ;)

good choice on the color, cheer :happy0180:

Does this FRS deserve the Hachiroku name?

I think it does, because I can refer either the AE86 or the FT86 in the old phrase,

You don't know how to drive, till you master the Hachiroku...

---Moto Miwa

Thanks, and this is a teaser to what will come when I get my own!

& I'll be visiting you & Yuichi in CA (when I can)

Thanks Moto, what a great article. This is what these cars are all about. Long-term ownership, ongoing development, growing familiar with every element of it's character.

It's OUR TURN!
 

Yes, and all of us in the web community must lose the politics, become buddies and share knowlege, no one is above the movement and no one will call this a fad. It's up to all of us, where ever, whatever, to be sharing and having fun. So that a car like this can sustain a great future.

You guys, it is ALL on you now. Toyota and Subaru has done their parts, and its up to us to call it the new HACHIROKU or whatever you want to call it. That was my aim from the start and that is what I promised to Mr.Tada , when I was asked for my role. His job was for the 6 years of development, now it is us to take it the next 25 years, just as the last one.

I'm thinking to gather some AE86's and other classics to do a meet with some of the early FRS owners... :) Trying to find when Mr.Tada can attend. Perhaps in the summer? ANyone interested?

Moto-san, I am! I am! I don't think, I'll have my FRS/BRZ... but I'll be attending to take some photos & see all the fans!

I'll keep working on that plan. We will ALL have this car for a long, long time, and there is no rush, as we want to do it right! :)

Definitely will consider it depending on location. With enough notice I might come cross country for that! Time for a convoy!

I'd be down to get something going. Just one more month and a couple days to get my whiteout FRS. We should have a countdown lol.

I'm thinking in the fall sometime, so there is enough time for many more owners to join?

This would be lovely. Near some scenic driving roads. Imagine looking back 20 years from now on that first autumn gathering. New cars and new friends. :thumbup:

I'm interested!!

Better if there are 2 events. One in the West coast and one in the East.

I am a previous AE86 owner and soon to be FR-S owner. I would love to attend.

Thanks Moto for the excellent write-up!! This is some of the best and most insightful info I've read about this car.

I've also spent some time on club4ag in think it's great that Toyota involved the enthusiast community in the design of this car. I loved reading your comments from that perspective.

I'll try to make the trip down to socal for this event if you put it together!

Anywhere in AZ/NV/CA I would be there. IN FACT, I already plan to drive my FRS to Formula Drift : Vegas in August. We've got a few first86ers pre-committed to an FT86 Meet for FC:Vegas, soooooo~

I was thinking east and west, and meet in Houston or New Orleans?
And why not include the heritage cars as well, AE86, Sports 800, and even have 2000GT... I'm sure it will be just fine, I know just the right folks for those too!

And thinking do this epic journey every two years...
Tada San will join in on the last leg, he says. :).
Perhaps other key folks as well.

We'd come from Nashville for this gathering. And perhaps bring special shirts to mark the occasion. Only available to participants. Just an idea.

Very cool! I'm working on this from time to time... I hope to make it happen!