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vh_supra26 12-11-2013 02:38 PM

Official: Toyota FT-1 Concept / First New Supra Prototype Spotted!
 
To increase the chance of production for the FT-1 concept, please write, email, and call Toyota and ask them to built this car!!!

http://www.supramkv.com/

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/toyota-ft-1-concept

http://www.toyota.com/support/contact.html

https://www.facebook.com/toyota

http://www.toyota-global.com/

http://www.toyota-europe.com/

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/toyota-ft-1-first-pictures

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNoJWW8jTOs"]Toyota FT-1 Concept Car - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwdHn2kw1hI"]A Glimpse into the Design of the Toyota FT-1 Concept - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj76ebmeklk"]Toyota FT-1 Concept - Detroit 2014 Walkaround - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmWP3tWo-o"]Toyota FT-1 Concept walkaround with CALTY Design @ 2014 Detroit Auto Show - YouTube[/ame]

Quote:

Toyota reveals the silhouette of a virtual concept car for the Gran Turismo 6. The line strongly suggests the Supra, which assumes an imminent return.

Under the draft Vision Gran Turismo , thirty manufacturer bodybuilders, and other designer have created unprecedented virtual concept cars exclusively for the racing video game Gran Turismo 6 , developed by Polyphony Digital and just sold on the PlayStation 3 from Sony. The first to be unveiled is the supercar Mercedes AMG Vision Gran Turismo , which aroused such enthusiasm that American society independent of the firm to the star, going to produce five copies . It is now the turn of Toyota to announce the upcoming presentation of their concept for the game, with a "teaser" picture.

Supra are you there?

The illustration shows the silhouette of a coupe with front engine with a massive rear spoiler, side view. Hard not to think of the famous Toyota Supra 1990 (last generation produced) in view of the line, and even more so that the Japanese automaker is preparing to unveil a prototype foreshadowing over its long-awaited GT at the next show in Detroit in January 2014. players Gran Turismo 6 will they have the scoop of a discovery, as with future BMW M4 Coupe ? The answer can not be long in coming.
http://news.autoplus.fr/news/1478081...o-Toyota-Supra
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gymratter 12-11-2013 02:58 PM

that has to be a preview of the new supra :D

vh_supra26 12-11-2013 04:02 PM

http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uplo...n-Turismo..jpg

Quote:

It's only to be expected that, whenever Toyota talks about a coupe model these days, everyone's mind automatically goes to a replacement for the Supra, the brand's last (true) high performance sports car, regardless if it's true.

The same is taking place with this new teaser sketch showing the silhouette of Toyota's racing concept for the Gran Turismo 6 Vision series, even though we only get this photo and nothing else from the Japanese carmaker and the creators of the racing game.

Still, who can blame us for wishful thinking…

The Gran Turismo Vision project, which includes concept cars made from automakers, design houses and other unrelated brands like Nike, will be available as special downloadable content (DLC) for players of the game in early 2014.
http://www.carscoops.com/2013/12/toy...turismo-6.html

gymratter 12-11-2013 04:05 PM

this certainly pays homage to the mk4.

vh_supra26 12-11-2013 04:11 PM

Toyota UK posted this on their Facebook.

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...48037592_n.jpg

Quote:

Gran Turismo 6, the latest version of the world’s best driving simulator game, launched worldwide on 6 December.

Have you played it yet? As well as featuring a TRD 86 Racing version of the GT86, Toyota committed to develop a special concept car for the game that owners will be able to put through its paces. Here’s the early teaser sketch of this top-secret sports car.

Like this post if you want to see the concept become more than just a digital dream...
https://www.facebook.com/toyotauk

http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...nterior-03.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...l-controls.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...ring-wheel.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...-adjusters.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...nterior-02.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...T-1-pedals.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...1-interior.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...it-display.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...-1-cockpit.jpg

Whitigir 12-11-2013 04:35 PM

o_0 ..... 40k Sport Coupe ?

Not too hard

86 chasis
New exterior
Turbo I4
Hbrid R

Voila Hybrid R Supra which easily pump 425/425 HP/Trq for 40k or so

gymratter 12-11-2013 04:58 PM

please please let this be a new supra :D

Rampage 12-11-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383879)
o_0 ..... 40k Sport Coupe ?

Not too hard

86 chasis
New exterior
Turbo I4
Hbrid R

Voila Hybrid R Supra which easily pump 425/425 HP/Trq for 40k or so

It is nice to dream.

Whitigir 12-11-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 1383938)
It is nice to dream.

Isn't that Life ?

Whitigir 12-11-2013 05:04 PM

Can't wait for Detroit Auto Show.

WRX-STI
Supra

vh_supra26 12-11-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383944)
Can't wait for Detroit Auto Show.

WRX-STI
Supra

Same here, we're only like a month away :D

Dave-ROR 12-11-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383944)
Can't wait for Detroit Auto Show.

WRX-STI
Supra


I've thought about flying up for it again, but I don't think the timing will work this year :(

Last went to 2012 for the BRZ/FRS :thumbup:

Whitigir 12-11-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 1384187)
I've thought about flying up for it again, but I don't think the timing will work this year :(

Last went to 2012 for the BRZ/FRS :thumbup:

Well...I am so close to it, 3 hours away, but I hope on my days off there wont be horrible Snow :-(

Levi 12-11-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383944)
Can't wait for Detroit Auto Show.

WRX-STI
Supra

There is much more:

Lexus RC-F
Corvette Z06
Porsche 911 Targa

NemesisPrime909 12-11-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 1383938)
It is nice to dream.

Life is...but a dream

Whitigir 12-11-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi (Post 1384351)
There is much more:

Lexus RC-F
Corvette Z06
Porsche 911 Targa

I know, but those are...well...dream on vehicles LOL

Of course one will always get excited by what they can afford

vh_supra26 12-12-2013 07:03 AM

Toyota UK posted this on their Facebook.

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...48037592_n.jpg

Quote:

Gran Turismo 6, the latest version of the world’s best driving simulator game, launched worldwide on 6 December.

Have you played it yet? As well as featuring a TRD 86 Racing version of the GT86, Toyota committed to develop a special concept car for the game that owners will be able to put through its paces. Here’s the early teaser sketch of this top-secret sports car.

Like this post if you want to see the concept become more than just a digital dream...
https://www.facebook.com/toyotauk

http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...nterior-03.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...l-controls.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...ring-wheel.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...-adjusters.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...nterior-02.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...T-1-pedals.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...1-interior.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...it-display.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future...-1-cockpit.jpg

gymratter 12-12-2013 11:34 AM

everyone needs to go to toyota UK facebook page and like that photo :p

Whitigir 12-12-2013 02:34 PM

OK...now I am definitely looking at the car a bit more.

I confirm it will be Hybrid!!!

NemesisPrime909 12-12-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 1385617)
everyone needs to go to toyota UK facebook page and like that photo :p

did my part

vh_supra26 12-12-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 1386117)
did my part

Sweet :)

But still only 56 likes lol

gymratter 12-12-2013 04:41 PM

^Up to 60 likes now, WTH! it should be like 1,00,000,000 likes :)

subwaynm 12-12-2013 05:28 PM

Would be nice if this car came to production. I think we all know that sooner or later Toyota has to get back in the Sexy Car line, and our minds automatically go to the name Celica/Supra so stands to reason that they would name it such

gymratter 12-12-2013 05:37 PM

if its going to be Toyota's flagship, than i say go with the Supra name > Celica anyday.

zigzagz94 12-12-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383944)
Can't wait for Detroit Auto Show.

WRX-STI
Supra





370Z replacement concept, too

Whitigir 12-13-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 1386666)
370Z replacement concept, too

Well...not too bad, but unless it loses several hundreds lbs. it is a shame that a 2 seater rwd weight that much

gymratter 12-13-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 1386666)
370Z replacement concept, too

im pretty sure that has been previewed by the esflow concept.

http://www.autocarzine.com/wp-conten...concept_10.jpg

vh_supra26 12-13-2013 02:22 PM

From Toyota UK
 
The teaser photos above are indeed from Toyota.

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/...ta-concept.jpg

Quote:

First glimpse of new Toyota sports car concept

December 12th, 2013 by Joe Clifford

Owners of the new Gran Turismo 6 game could be the first to experience Toyota’s exciting new sports car concept.

Would you like to ‘drive’ a brand-new Toyota sports car concept?

Gran Turismo 6, the latest version of the world’s best driving simulator game, launched worldwide last week. As well as including a TRD 86 Racing version of the GT86, Toyota committed to develop an exciting new sports car concept for the game that owners will be able to put through its paces.

Available as free downloadable content early in 2014, the collaboration between Toyota and developer Polyphony Digital forms part of the ambitious Vision Gran Turismo programme. Its purpose is to reward the franchise’s loyal fan-base with a unique window into the future of automotive design and celebrate 15 years of GT gaming history.

This is the only image available at the moment but any talk of Toyota and new sports cars always leads to speculation on the introduction of a spiritual successor to the Supra.

We never comment on speculation but it’s clear that there are familiar proportions in the shape of the silhouette…
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/first-glimp...ts-car-concept

vh_supra26 12-13-2013 02:35 PM

Kinda off topic, but this is BMW's Vision Gran Turismo Concept.

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/8...oncepts-02.jpg

daiheadjai 12-16-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 1386397)
if its going to be Toyota's flagship, than i say go with the Supra name > Celica anyday.

Not ANY day.... At least not any day prior to 1978, amiright?

zigzagz94 12-16-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 1387871)
im pretty sure that has been previewed by the esflow concept.

http://www.autocarzine.com/wp-conten...concept_10.jpg









Esflow is from 2011 (and I don' think the new Zed will look anything like that). Nissan is supposed to show a more production ready concept this auto show season with most betting on Detroit.

WillBRZ 12-16-2013 10:28 PM

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/...ta-concept.jpg


http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/ima...Bside_view.jpg

For some reason 300zx popped into my mind from this pic

gymratter 12-17-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 1394261)
Esflow is from 2011 (and I don' think the new Zed will look anything like that). Nissan is supposed to show a more production ready concept this auto show season with most betting on Detroit.

i am aware that it is a 2011 concept. but automakers have used even older concepts to base a production car on.

yeah i disagreed.

http://i.imgur.com/TuZwb.jpg
http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00342511_l.jpg

Levi 12-23-2013 11:01 AM

Lexus also has their concept coming. It will be the LF-LC with probably some slight changes.

http://lexusenthusiast.com/images/we...an-turismo.jpg

vh_supra26 12-27-2013 09:41 PM

Hey everyone, here is your chance to tell Toyota what you would like a new "Supra" to be. Click on the link below and have your say.

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/first-glimp...ts-car-concept

Below are some common questions and comments that I have heard across all the forums.

What should it be?
The joint Toyota/BMW midsize coupe.
Underpin the upcoming Lexus RC/RC-F.
Stretched 86/FR-S platform with more power.

What should the drivetrain be?
4 Cycle turbo
4 Cycle hybrid
V6 hybrid
V6 turbo
V8 (2UR-GSE)

What should it go after?
NSX hybrid and hybrid GT-R.
Next Z35 or C7 Corvette.

How about the price range?
$30k-$40k
$50k-$60k
$70k+

Bristecom 12-28-2013 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 1415399)
Hey everyone, here is your chance to tell Toyota what you would like a new "Supra" to be. Click on the link below and have your say.

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/first-glimp...ts-car-concept

Below are some common questions and comments that I have heard across all the forums.

What should it be?
The joint Toyota/BMW midsize coupe.
Underpin the upcoming Lexus RC/RC-F.
Stretched 86/FR-S platform with more power.

What should the drivetrain be?
4 Cycle turbo
4 Cycle hybrid
V6 hybrid
V6 turbo
V8 (2UR-GSE)

What should it go after?
NSX hybrid and hybrid GT-R.
Next Z35 or C7 Corvette.

How about the price range?
$30k-$40k
$50k-$60k
$70k+

This is what I think:

I would like to see a BMW/Toyota joint effort with an inline-6 engine. One affordable model (30-40k USD) with a naturally aspirated I6 engine and one turbo I6 model (40-50k USD). Affordability is key though. There's no point in making another car for the ultra-rich like the Nissan GTR and Porsche 911's, as 98% of the population cannot afford it so it'd be nothing but a tease.

The engine and aerodynamics should be tuned by the TMG team that designed the F1 and Le Mans cars for more performance and prestige. The engine note should be tuned by Yamaha like the LFA for F1-esque sounds. Make it look very similar to the last Mk4 Supra (curvy, aerodynamic, sporty). Transmission options should include a manual and dual clutch. The chassis should just be steel but with aluminum hood, roof, trunk, and aluminum or plastic front fenders. Use aluminum in areas of unsprung weight such as suspension arms/links, knuckles, and dampers. Use Brembo aluminum fixed calipers with two-piece discs and forged BBS wheels (Washi Beam Japan). Use double wishbone and/or multi-link based front and rear suspension (instead of MacPherson strut).

Also, do not make it too wide or too long (around 1800mm wide and 2600mm wheelbase). Big cars tend to spoil the fun on the road and add weight. But having 2 small folding seats in the rear would help justify practicality for many. 225/45/18 is a good tire size to base it on and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires are recommended. Same size tires front and rear would be nice for easier rotations, affordability, and playfulness (at least for the non-turbo model). Make sure the steering wheel has enough feedback and the handling is very predictable with a smooth and responsive power band without electronic traction and stability controls interfering too much. A limited slip differential should be standard. Also, make electronic systems programmable/customizable by driver in head unit. The Lexus LFA based digital display gauge would be an attractive choice.

The car should essentially be a bigger brother to the GT86 and more of a competitor to the Nissan 370Z (for the non-turbo) and the base Cayman & Corvette (for the turbo model). If you get the styling, engine sounds, and performance/fun factor right at a low enough price, it could be a legendary and very successful car.

NemesisPrime909 12-28-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 1415761)
This is what I think:

I would like to see a BMW/Toyota joint effort with an inline-6 engine. One affordable model (30-40k USD) with a naturally aspirated I6 engine and one turbo I6 model (40-50k USD). Affordability is key though. There's no point in making another car for the ultra-rich like the Nissan GTR and Porsche 911's, as 98% of the population cannot afford it so it'd be nothing but a tease.

The engine and aerodynamics should be tuned by the TMG team that designed the F1 and Le Mans cars for more performance and prestige. The engine note should be tuned by Yamaha like the LFA for F1-esque sounds. Make it look very similar to the last Mk4 Supra (curvy, aerodynamic, sporty). Transmission options should include a manual and dual clutch. The chassis should just be steel but with aluminum hood, roof, trunk, and aluminum or plastic front fenders. Use aluminum in areas of unsprung weight such as suspension arms/links, knuckles, and dampers. Use Brembo aluminum fixed calipers with two-piece discs and forged BBS wheels (Washi Beam Japan). Use double wishbone and/or multi-link based front and rear suspension (instead of MacPherson strut).

Also, do not make it too wide or too long (around 1800mm wide and 2600mm wheelbase). Big cars tend to spoil the fun on the road and add weight. But having 2 small folding seats in the rear would help justify practicality for many. 225/45/18 is a good tire size to base it on and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires are recommended. Same size tires front and rear would be nice for easier rotations, affordability, and playfulness (at least for the non-turbo model). Make sure the steering wheel has enough feedback and the handling is very predictable with a smooth and responsive power band without electronic traction and stability controls interfering too much. A limited slip differential should be standard. Also, make electronic systems programmable/customizable by driver in head unit. The Lexus LFA based digital display gauge would be an attractive choice.

The car should essentially be a bigger brother to the GT86 and more of a competitor to the Nissan 370Z (for the non-turbo) and the base Cayman & Corvette (for the turbo model). If you get the styling, engine sounds, and performance/fun factor right at a low enough price, it could be a legendary and very successful car.


Nail on the Head

Levi 12-28-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 1415761)
This is what I think:

I would like to see a BMW/Toyota joint effort with an inline-6 engine. One affordable model (30-40k USD) with a naturally aspirated I6 engine and one turbo I6 model (40-50k USD). Affordability is key though. There's no point in making another car for the ultra-rich like the Nissan GTR and Porsche 911's, as 98% of the population cannot afford it so it'd be nothing but a tease.

The engine and aerodynamics should be tuned by the TMG team that designed the F1 and Le Mans cars for more performance and prestige. The engine note should be tuned by Yamaha like the LFA for F1-esque sounds. Make it look very similar to the last Mk4 Supra (curvy, aerodynamic, sporty). Transmission options should include a manual and dual clutch. The chassis should just be steel but with aluminum hood, roof, trunk, and aluminum or plastic front fenders. Use aluminum in areas of unsprung weight such as suspension arms/links, knuckles, and dampers. Use Brembo aluminum fixed calipers with two-piece discs and forged BBS wheels (Washi Beam Japan). Use double wishbone and/or multi-link based front and rear suspension (instead of MacPherson strut).

Also, do not make it too wide or too long (around 1800mm wide and 2600mm wheelbase). Big cars tend to spoil the fun on the road and add weight. But having 2 small folding seats in the rear would help justify practicality for many. 225/45/18 is a good tire size to base it on and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires are recommended. Same size tires front and rear would be nice for easier rotations, affordability, and playfulness (at least for the non-turbo model). Make sure the steering wheel has enough feedback and the handling is very predictable with a smooth and responsive power band without electronic traction and stability controls interfering too much. A limited slip differential should be standard. Also, make electronic systems programmable/customizable by driver in head unit. The Lexus LFA based digital display gauge would be an attractive choice.

The car should essentially be a bigger brother to the GT86 and more of a competitor to the Nissan 370Z (for the non-turbo) and the base Cayman & Corvette (for the turbo model). If you get the styling, engine sounds, and performance/fun factor right at a low enough price, it could be a legendary and very successful car.


It is a good compromise. But there are some points I still disagree with (personal preference) and then there is the realistic execution of the product. I don't see BMW or Toyota building a one-off I6 engine. BMW has it already, and I don't want a BMW engine in a Toyota. Then, I don't think it is possible to have a NA and FI version of one engine without increased costs or compromises.

Then, I also don't like +2 seats, they are not very practical for carring people. Don't be offended, but my way of thinking is that 2 doors = 2 seats, 4 doors = 4 seats. I think the Lexus RC/BMW 2er/4er/Audi A5...etc is a good compromise for having both something sporty yet practical, but those cars will never be pure sportscars in my eyes. I alos don't get why Porsche insists on those rear seats in the 911, they better put the engine instead (a.k.a underpowered Cayman).

I'm more for one good product than one with more choices that is compromised. Sure I'd love a new H/R Turbo I6 with 6MT, just as the previous Supra, but it just won't happen.

Till now I don't know any Turbo engine that sound and revs like a Ferrari V8 or a Lexus V10 (or for instance any of the previous NA BMW M engines). So I'd be more for a Yamah (part of Toyota who makes performance engines) tuned NA V6, (like LFA with ITB', dry sump, 9000K redline) help by hybrid instead of turbo (like the 918 Spyder). Sure costs will increase. Maybe not a problem, but if the car is not profitable, we'll as you say have another LFA or car for rich people.


Quite an issue IMO, 50K sportscars are compromised, 200K are just not my thing, even if I could afford them (all mid-engine and way too powerfull and even heavy). There is nothing around 90K that is good, Cayman is underpowered for its price, and 911 is also not really my thing, I want the engine in-front. Thus so happy for the GT86/BRZ.

serialk11r 12-28-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi (Post 1416799)
Quite an issue IMO, 50K sportscars are compromised, 200K are just not my thing, even if I could afford them (all mid-engine and way too powerfull and even heavy). There is nothing around 90K that is good, Cayman is underpowered for its price, and 911 is also not really my thing, I want the engine in-front. Thus so happy for the GT86/BRZ.

Other than the engine in the front I mostly agree. I wouldn't drive a 200k+ sports car around even if I had the money to not care if I crashed. I can understand the reasoning for 2+2, but I'd rather have a 2 seater and a 4 door. A 2+2 in my eyes is for the person who wants a bigger car but still wants to feel/look cool in something sporty, which is reasonable.

I like the Cayman, but while the 981 is pretty light compared to a Z or Corvette, it's heavy for a 2 seater.

I think a realistic Supra powertrain would be an NA V6 hybrid. They could use the 2GR-FSE with an electric motor on the input shaft of the transmission, raise the rev limit to 7500 like Lotus did, drop some fatter cams in, and you'd have a solid 350hp + electric that also sounds pretty good.

Whitigir 12-29-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 1416864)
Other than the engine in the front I mostly agree. I wouldn't drive a 200k+ sports car around even if I had the money to not care if I crashed. I can understand the reasoning for 2+2, but I'd rather have a 2 seater and a 4 door. A 2+2 in my eyes is for the person who wants a bigger car but still wants to feel/look cool in something sporty, which is reasonable.

I like the Cayman, but while the 981 is pretty light compared to a Z or Corvette, it's heavy for a 2 seater.

I think a realistic Supra powertrain would be an NA V6 hybrid. They could use the 2GR-FSE with an electric motor on the input shaft of the transmission, raise the rev limit to 7500 like Lotus did, drop some fatter cams in, and you'd have a solid 350hp + electric that also sounds pretty good.


I am totally agreed with you. A car was meant to be driven and scratched. What we all need is a fun car, reliable, with the future technologies in an affordable package.

Though instead of the V6. They could do turbo 4 for maximize efficiency plus hybrid motors. Gasoline engine weak point is off the line torque. They waste a lot of gas to move the car. Which can easily be moved by electric motors. Their strong point is high HP once the car is moving, together with a good turbo.

Inline 4 will be smaller, less weigh, and simpler to work on. Also open the gate to after market for both high performance electric motors, regenerative brake parts, more powerful super capacitors, and turbos.....

It will be a legendary vehicle once again, and it will take people 20 years into the future to totally cap out the vehicle capabilities


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