Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72)
-   -   Spun out and hit a curb... (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53037)

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 05:31 PM

Spun out and hit a curb...
 
2 Attachment(s)
So due to the weather yesterday and all the rain my car spun out at hit a curb )=. Luckily I am okay but my rear left wheel was hit by the curb. I checked out the damage and for some reason that was the only damage I could physically tell. No scratches on the bottom or nothing. I took my car to check the alignment and the only thing out of alignment was the front left side which they said had some toe in but I was really surprised that the alignment on the actually wheel that was hit was fine. I am going to take it to another shop to check alignment for accuracy and see if they notice anything in alignment but what do you guys think I should also check? When driving back I also never noticed my car shifting to the side which I was expecting some. Thanks everyone!

suaveflooder 12-07-2013 05:35 PM

If the alignment checks out and it's just that wheel, you are all set. Time to save up for some aftermarket rims :thumbsup:

kALMIGHTY 12-07-2013 05:39 PM

Ouch that's a nasty curb rash. But yeah, like the poster above me said, if the car doesn't pull to one side on a flat road, and there's no strange "noise" coming from turning or the car moving, you're all good to go.

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 05:45 PM

@kALMIGHTY @suaveflooder Yea I haven't noticed anything different with my car just for the fact that I hit a curb so I'm still trying to figure out if I noticed anything different with my car. Like you guys said though as long as alignment checks out I shouldn't worry about my wheel being bent or anything? Sorry I am particularly new to cars.

suaveflooder 12-07-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1375283)
@kALMIGHTY @suaveflooder Yea I haven't noticed anything different with my car just for the fact that I hit a curb so I'm still trying to figure out if I noticed anything different with my car. Like you guys said though as long as alignment checks out I shouldn't worry about my wheel being bent or anything? Sorry I am particularly new to cars.

watch it for the next couple days and make sure it's holding air. It honestly just looks like nasty curb rash and that's it. You can bend these rims but it would take a pretty damn good hit. You can also take it to a tire shop and they can pull it off and check to make sure it's straight and weighted properly still.

kALMIGHTY 12-07-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1375283)
@kALMIGHTY @suaveflooder Yea I haven't noticed anything different with my car just for the fact that I hit a curb so I'm still trying to figure out if I noticed anything different with my car. Like you guys said though as long as alignment checks out I shouldn't worry about my wheel being bent or anything? Sorry I am particularly new to cars.

No worries. We were all new to cars at some point. :thumbsup:
If your front left has some toe in it, it's probably not because of hitting your rear left on the curb. That toe must have always been there so nothing to worry about other than saving up money for some new sexy wheels!

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 05:59 PM

@kALMIGHTY @suaveflooder Thank you guys so much! You guys are making me feel a lot more better! And yes hopefully from my traumatic event new wheels and also new tires are a must!

mwjcyber 12-07-2013 06:07 PM

I'd say not a big deal. Just replace with some after market wheels, or buy used Stock ones from Member Classifieds section. Also as others said, no reason to get second alignment inspection if car drives fine.

N1rve 12-07-2013 06:43 PM

How many miles are currently on these tires?

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 06:47 PM

@mwjcyber thanks for the info! @N1rve about 10k miles

N1rve 12-07-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1375389)
@mwjcyber thanks for the info! @N1rve about 10k miles

Wow...sounds like the tires are giving out early.

But look on the bright side...it gives you an excuse to get new rims and tires ! :)

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 07:36 PM

@N1rve Lol true I mean the tires are still perfectly fine I just hope later on they don't form an air bubble on them with the impact they had.

juliog 12-07-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1375261)
due to the weather[...] spun out at hit a curb )=

:burnrubber:

boredom.is.me 12-07-2013 07:49 PM

Sorry to be the [second] jerk, but the weather didn't do shit. You spun out, probably messing around or just driving carelessly.

With that said, I'm glad there is no real damage and that you are alright. Aside from checking the wheel's face, did you check the inside? I'm not sure of how likely this is, but you could also check the studs.

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 07:54 PM

@boredom.is.me no hard feelings! Maybe I was driving to carelessly, I don't know the full limits of my car yet but with what happened I know to drive more carefully now and not mess around. And yes I am glad everything including myself is okay!

BRZnut 12-07-2013 08:22 PM

As the weather starts to get cold/more wet/ icy/ snowy, I'm still trying to figure out the limits of this car.


Was your spin out totally out of the blue??

JohnAyySays 12-07-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZnut (Post 1375510)
As the weather starts to get cold/more wet/ icy/ snowy, I'm still trying to figure out the limits of this car.


Was your spin out totally out of the blue??

It wasn't out the blue I felt the car come out on the rear so I just tried to correct it but I guess by doing that it just let loose and spun out.

boredom.is.me 12-07-2013 10:32 PM

Oh, I forgot about snow and ice. If that's the case, then I retract my previous statement.

N1rve 12-08-2013 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1375443)
@N1rve Lol true I mean the tires are still perfectly fine I just hope later on they don't form an air bubble on them with the impact they had.

You should buy some roadhazard :)

I bought the roadhazard for my tires...109 dollars for all 4 for the life of the tire until 3/32nds.

Covers nails, bubbles, everythingggg except normal wear and tear.

These Michelin tires aren't cheap...201 dollars each plus tax and mount.

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-08-2013 03:53 AM

To anybody saying these rims take a beating, they don't. They almost killed me as one broke doing 75 miles, yes I did hit a rock on the highway or some piece of shit, but he'll I never knew they would break

Suberman 12-08-2013 12:32 PM

Tire shows no sign of damage. This is just very bad curb rash. $100 to fix, $150 in Canada.

These cars are very twitchy in the wet. I'm curious to know if you had TRAC on or off, or VSC on or off?

First time my car snapped out in the wet it was with TRAC fully on. Now it's winter I find this car just does this. Doesn't matter how quick you are with the steering or the throttle it just snaps out. With TRAC fully off it doesn't do this. It just progressively slides out and it is much easier to catch.

Pretty weird that the car is harder to drive well with TRAC on!

boredom.is.me 12-08-2013 12:54 PM

I have to agree with you there. I drive with TC off, dry or rain, but not on highways.

Regarding the snapping, that's just you. I've only snapped playing around trying new things, as in "I wonder what happens if I do this."

cjsporl1996 12-08-2013 01:51 PM

I have to agree with the 2 posts above. This car is Easier to correct if you leave everything off in the dry. In the wet I leave it in sport mode, and on the highway I leave everything on. I'm not sure if aftermarket wheels and tires would fix this but this is what I have experienced. I would recommend driving a few cars that don't have any of the nannies ABS, traction control, VSC from the factory. When I got my license my dad made me take out some classic muscle cars to practice driving in wet conditions. It really shows you how to correct the car. Also, when you get in a situation where the rear end slips from beneath you don't panic, stay calm.

JohnAyySays 12-08-2013 05:03 PM

@Suberman @boredom.is.me @cjsporl1996 When I drive my car I always have everything on so maybe that had to do with it? Not sure but I'm still trying to get used to my car like the above post says so I'm not sure if its a smart thing to learn to drive the car without everything on when on public roads, whats your guys opinion on it? My car before actually had no traction control or anything of that but then again I never drove my car like I drove my frs now so yea.

boredom.is.me 12-08-2013 05:13 PM

Find an open (and secluded) parking. Go have some fun when it rains. leave everything on and try to fun. Then turn everything off and try again. Get a feel for the understeer you get without weight tranfer. Then give a little brakes as you turn. Drop the clutch a few...auto or manual?

JohnAyySays 12-08-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1376779)
Find an open (and secluded) parking. Go have some fun when it rains. leave everything on and try to fun. Then turn everything off and try again. Get a feel for the understeer you get without weight tranfer. Then give a little brakes as you turn. Drop the clutch a few...auto or manual?

Hopefully when it does rain I could try it out! And I drive a manual. Any suggestions though when driving in the rain?

humfrz 12-08-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1376809)
Hopefully when it does rain I could try it out! And I drive a manual. Any suggestions though when driving in the rain?

Yep, ..... drive slower, leave more space between you and the vehicle in front of you and don't make any "jerky" moves ... ;)

humfrz

boredom.is.me 12-08-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1376809)
Hopefully when it does rain I could try it out! And I drive a manual. Any suggestions though when driving in the rain?

One rule that I have heard and have experienced to be true: Always look at where you want to go. This means head turned and eyes forward. You will naturally/instinctively go the direction you want to go. This applies to everything on wheels and in the water.

JohnAyySays 12-08-2013 05:46 PM

@boredom.is.me @humfrz thanks will definitely take your guys tips into consideration! Really appreciate it guys!

boredom.is.me 12-08-2013 05:53 PM

Oh and watch out for curbs...and poles, and other stuff that like to reach out for cars.

humfrz 12-08-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1376831)
@boredom.is.me @humfrz thanks will definitely take your guys tips into consideration! Really appreciate it guys!

Yep, and ..... remember, especially in California, after a dry spell and then it rains ..... be extra careful .... the roads are super slick.

Also, when I mention "jerky" moves, I mean that, although your car may be able to quickly and safely change position, that doesn't mean that the other drivers can react that quickly.

Why not? Because there is a good chance they are "impared" OR zoned out OR communicating on their cell phones OR fussing with their kids OR ..... well, you get the idea ..... http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/sigh.gif

humfrz

Wolfking 12-08-2013 07:59 PM

I have no idea how you were driving and I'm not judging you. From my own experiences I'd advise you to get a front strut tower bar and roll on 225 rubber at the very least. Based from years of trail and error tuning my previous cars, this is my FR car, must have, street tune rule! ~God speed!

Suberman 12-08-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1376766)
@Suberman @boredom.is.me @cjsporl1996 When I drive my car I always have everything on so maybe that had to do with it? Not sure but I'm still trying to get used to my car like the above post says so I'm not sure if its a smart thing to learn to drive the car without everything on when on public roads, whats your guys opinion on it? My car before actually had no traction control or anything of that but then again I never drove my car like I drove my frs now so yea.

Just ease your way into this car. It is a great learning car but, as you've discovered, it is designed to be "fun to drive".

Leave TRAC on and "listen" to the chassis. Then try VSC setting and feel the rear end step out further before the electronics step in. Once you have that all dialled into the seat of your pants switch TRAC off and go for it.

Maverick22 12-08-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder (Post 1375266)
If the alignment checks out and it's just that wheel, you are all set. Time to save up for some aftermarket rims :thumbsup:


This

Rico415 12-08-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1376460)
I have to agree with you there. I drive with TC off, dry or rain, but not on highways.

Regarding the snapping, that's just you. I've only snapped playing around trying new things, as in "I wonder what happens if I do this."


Unless you are actively planning on hanging the ass out why on earth would you turn it off... (and do not do it on public roads)

You think you know how to handle your car but you never know what the other idiots on the road are going to do that you will have to react to.

There is absolutely no reason to drive with it off please do everyone on the road a favor and leave you shit on. My family would greatly appreciate it as would our collective insurance rates.

boredom.is.me 12-08-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico415 (Post 1377366)
Unless you are actively planning on hanging the ass out why on earth would you turn it off... (and do not do it on public roads)

You think you know how to handle your car but you never know what the other idiots on the road are going to do that you will have to react to.

There is absolutely no reason to drive with it off please do everyone on the road a favor and leave you shit on. My family would greatly appreciate it as would our collective insurance rates.

Do you go around telling people who own cars without TC this?
I prefer my inputs over the car's retardation when there is any sign of slip. I also feel way more comfortable. Why does this appeal to me more? I know how the car behaves with it on and I don't like it. The allows a slight bit of angle, then cuts throttle. That just plants the rear end and swings the front. In fact if you read the thread, you would see that I'm not the only one.

boredom.is.me 12-08-2013 11:52 PM

Plus, you don't know me. You don't know how I drive. You don't know where I drive. You don't know the precautions I take just getting from home to school everyday. You don't know how texting idiots I deal with, or people who don't know of such things like stop signs and right-of-ways. You don't know the grade of road I drive on. You don't know where I live, or how I pull into traffic. So don't tell me anything.

The moral of the story is simple. Drive for yourself, the cars around you, and the cars that are coming (or just in the greater vicinity).

And that concludes my little rant.

cjsporl1996 12-09-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico415 (Post 1377366)
Unless you are actively planning on hanging the ass out why on earth would you turn it off... (and do not do it on public roads)

You think you know how to handle your car but you never know what the other idiots on the road are going to do that you will have to react to.

There is absolutely no reason to drive with it off please do everyone on the road a favor and leave you shit on. My family would greatly appreciate it as would our collective insurance rates.

I think that is more personal opinion than fact that " you think you know how to handle your car" the stability control and traction control system at least in this car is very temper mantle and not always predictable. From learning how to drive cars that do not carry these "safety" features and driving a car that does have these features I would rather trust my own instincts in any situation instead of a computer that is programmed to act the same given any situation that the wheel slips.

avp1 12-09-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAyySays (Post 1376766)
@Suberman @boredom.is.me @cjsporl1996 When I drive my car I always have everything on so maybe that had to do with it? Not sure but I'm still trying to get used to my car like the above post says so I'm not sure if its a smart thing to learn to drive the car without everything on when on public roads, whats your guys opinion on it? My car before actually had no traction control or anything of that but then again I never drove my car like I drove my frs now so yea.

If you are on public road, keep all nannies ON. When you are on the track - that is time to get loose.

Rico415 12-09-2013 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1377413)
Plus, you don't know me. You don't know how I drive. You don't know where I drive. You don't know the precautions I take just getting from home to school everyday. You don't know how texting idiots I deal with, or people who don't know of such things like stop signs and right-of-ways. You don't know the grade of road I drive on. You don't know where I live, or how I pull into traffic. So don't tell me anything.

The moral of the story is simple. Drive for yourself, the cars around you, and the cars that are coming (or just in the greater vicinity).

And that concludes my little rant.


All i need to know about you you already stated YOU turn it off. Enough said.

If you car comes with a safety device only an ass would turn it off on a public road thinking they are better than the computer.

There are enough posts on this forum on people who thought they knew better and wrecked their cars I do not remember any who said the nannies were ON when they did it...


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.