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regal 12-05-2013 09:39 AM

Need sugestions for a 16 yo girls first car
 
First its got to be cheap. I live in a state where they do OBDII inspection so pre '96 is best. She wanted a Jeep Cherokee but most have been used and abused by other teenagers.


Main thing is cheap to buy and reliable. The only automatic I've owned in 25 years of driving was a police interceptor beater, so don't know which early 90's models besides those were reliable. Really whish she could learn to drive a stick.


What would be the cheapest/most common/ most reliable pre 96 car ?

sklimo 12-05-2013 09:45 AM

A tank

Andrew025 12-05-2013 09:57 AM

Automatic civic

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regal 12-05-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 1370326)
Automatic civic

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Thanks old civics are good cars, didn't know they auto's were rugged. Should be able to be able to find a 4 door that hasn't been abused.

wrxgoose 12-05-2013 10:05 AM

volvo. one of them saved my cousin's life when she started driving. built like tanks, if you get the older ones

Noob4Life 12-05-2013 10:10 AM

Another vote on a 4dr civic. Can't really get any cheaper or more reliable.

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Muskokan 12-05-2013 10:17 AM

+1 for an old volvo.

guys at my work keep picking them up for winter, even in shitty ontario winters those things barely rust after 20 years. lots of weight over the wheels to get her going in the winter, and she could bounce it off snowbanks and you wouldnt even notice anything.

Sportsguy83 12-05-2013 10:27 AM

Camry/Corolla/Echo/Tercel.

All bulletproof.

Civics are good too, but the Auto trannies can be suspect.

kanundrum 12-05-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wrxgoose (Post 1370345)
volvo. one of them saved my cousin's life when she started driving. built like tanks, if you get the older ones

Top gear haha. You want all of that hood protecting your kid! haha

Gary in NJ 12-05-2013 10:50 AM

Hey Regal, Been there...done that. I'd be more concerned with safe over cheap.

Cheap cars are prone to problems from the get-go...problems that will just eat cash. Sensors, brakes, tires, fuel pump, alternator, exhaust, starter, suspension parts...it always seems as though you're in a constant replacement cycle with a "cheap" car. Do you really want your daughter stranded somewhere?

I also see that you live in PA so driving in snow is in her future. I'd be looking for a car/suv with AWD. A ten year old Subaru, RAV4, Element or CR-V would serve both of you well.

Kimsey47 12-05-2013 10:50 AM

I agree... If you're going pre '96 Honda/Acura or Toyota/Lexus is a good bet... Oh yeah or Subaru as the post above me stated; however, the gas mileage may suck.

YMAA 12-05-2013 11:04 AM

An Impreza or Legacy from a few years ago would be safe and (typically) reliable. The AWD coupled with Subaru's bulletproof reliability would be ideal for a teenager. My folks passed down their old Legacy (a 2000) to me for college and it made a fantastic first car.

And as mentioned before, I'd put reliability and safety over cost.

TheLaughingMan 12-05-2013 11:06 AM

I learned on a 96 civic, it was a good car.

However, not the best in the snow so if that's a concern go for an older impreza or something.

husker741 12-05-2013 11:14 AM

Toyota 4Runner if she likes bigger, 4WD cars.

regal 12-05-2013 11:21 AM

My mom (grandma) is selling her 75k mile 98 Imprezza (2.2L) for $3500. It needs an air bag sensor fixed for $700. But it really doesn't snow here often, we are thinking no driving in bad weather policy, so I'm not sure an old Subaru or other AWD vehicle is worth the cost (they seem to have a higher resale value.)









@sportguy I like the idea of a Camry/Corolla/Echo/Tercel I know those are good cars and had heard they tend to have more reliable autos than the old Civics.


Thanks again for the suggestions.

Whitigir 12-05-2013 11:24 AM

MR2, Miata, S2k...all Fun car.

Family cars 1+ to those Corolla, Altima, Camry, Maxima, Civic, Accord

frslee 12-05-2013 11:25 AM

4 door Civic, Accord, Corolla, Camry

ZionsWrath 12-05-2013 11:27 AM

7th generation honda accord (2003 - 2007), 4cyl auto.

It took all my "young guy, first car" abuse, including being lowered a couple inches for 60k miles, and still on all original components (minus wear items of course).

4 cyl, can get 35 mpg highway, plenty of room for her friends, not fast, plethora of replacement parts, safe, easy to maintain. k24 engine is bulletproof.

regal 12-05-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1370504)
MR2, Miata, S2k...all Fun car.

Family cars 1+ to those Corolla, Altima, Camry, Maxima, Civic, Accord



No, I'm the only one allowed to have a fun car in this family :)


I'm going to keep my eyes open for a pre 96 4 door Toyota unless someone thinks I should try to talk Mom out of here imprezza.

Starscream15 12-05-2013 11:33 AM

[QUOTE=Sportsguy83;1370386]Camry/Corolla/Echo/Tercel.QUOTE]

Agreed. There's a reason there are so many old Toyotas still on the road.

Kimsey47 12-05-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by regal (Post 1370495)
My mom (grandma) is selling her 75k mile 98 Imprezza (2.2L) for $3500. It needs an air bag sensor fixed for $700. But it really doesn't snow here often, we are thinking no driving in bad weather policy, so I'm not sure an old Subaru or other AWD vehicle is worth the cost (they seem to have a higher resale value.)

I'd go for this option... You never know when bad weather may catch her out and about so it adds a level of safety should she have to drive in bad weather (rain, snow, ice). :thumbsup:

BlueDubbinTDI 12-05-2013 11:55 AM

Get her a vdub beetle. They havnt changed much so atleast it won't look super aged pre 96 like literally everything else on the road.

Gary in NJ 12-05-2013 11:59 AM

Go for the Imprezza...you know the history. Ask Mom to cut you a deal for Christmas.

Sportsguy83 12-05-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal (Post 1370519)
No, I'm the only one allowed to have a fun car in this family :)


I'm going to keep my eyes open for a pre 96 4 door Toyota unless someone thinks I should try to talk Mom out of here imprezza.

Knowing about the Impreza for sale, I would say go for that. Remember, she is going to have this car for a few years and you want her to have AWD in the winter when she's driving in snow and already 18-20 years.

The only thing I would consider before buying Grandma's car is that fixing a Toyota can be done dirt cheap and you get good gas mileage and I have no idea how a 98 Impreza stacks up on those two departments.

BigFatFlip 12-05-2013 12:19 PM

Sure, having an awd impreza or small suv for winter maybe a good idea, but having an older civic/camry/accord/etc. with appropriate winter tires should be just as good.

Also, why not get her a standard/manual? My dad has always made the point to teach my brother and I to drive stick (we both learned when we were around 14-15) and insisted that our first cars be stick, and we have been forever grateful to him. I plan on doing the same with my daughter when that day comes.

ZionsWrath 12-05-2013 12:22 PM

Yes, the accord with winter tires is sick. I drove it last year in all the snows instead of my BRZ. Hoping this winter is a pounding so I can drive it more :)

regal 12-05-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip (Post 1370640)
Also, why not get her a standard/manual? My dad has always made the point to teach my brother and I to drive stick (we both learned when we were around 14-15) and insisted that our first cars be stick, and we have been forever grateful to him. I plan on doing the same with my daughter when that day comes.


My Dad did the same with me. My dad wife's too. But the wife has had no luck teaching her driving manual Yaris. Maybe over xmas while I'm off work I'll try to teach her myself. She want a chance to drive my FRS so that may motivate her.

YukiHachiRoku 12-05-2013 12:37 PM

any volvo wagon, v70 series would be nice, and safe!

DylanFRS 12-05-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal (Post 1370300)
Really whish she could learn to drive a stick.

Why can't she?

n2oinferno 12-05-2013 01:30 PM

I'd go with the Impreza since you know the history. Otherwise I'll go with my general recommendation of a Prius. It won't be as old as you're looking to get, but they're reliable, cheap, and get good gas mileage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DylanFRS (Post 1370735)
Why can't she?

Not everyone wants to or even cares if they can drive a car with a manual transmission. I'll offer to teach my kids, but unless they want to I'm not going to push them to learn.

DylanFRS 12-05-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1370818)
Not everyone wants to or even cares if they can drive a car with a manual transmission. I'll offer to teach my kids, but unless they want to I'm not going to push them to learn.

I guess... There is A LOT of stuff my parents taught me that I didn't care or want to know, but now I am glad they did. When I was 15, I would have much preferred to not learn manual since it was "scary" at the time for me. My Dad pushed me to learn anyways and I am really really glad he did. Since I was "forced" to learn, I now, as an adult, get to choose which one I prefer.

n2oinferno 12-05-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DylanFRS (Post 1370852)
I guess... There is A LOT of stuff my parents taught me that I didn't care or want to know, but now I am glad they did. When I was 15, I would have much preferred to not learn manual since it was "scary" at the time for me. My Dad pushed me to learn anyways and I am really really glad he did. Since I was "forced" to learn, I now, as an adult, get to choose which one I prefer.

Ah well, we'll be lucky if my little ones even have the option of a manual transmission they're old enough to be purchasing new cars, unfortunately.

OrbitalEllipses 12-05-2013 01:49 PM

Miata.


Not quick enough to get into trouble.
Not enough capacity to bring friends/make poor choices with passengers.
Will teach her about vehicle handling dynamics in a way no other car will.
Available in autotragic if required.
Will handle fine in the snow with proper tires and some weight in the trunk if needed.

DylanFRS 12-05-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1370878)
Miata.

Not enough capacity to bring friends/make poor choices with passengers.

Yes! Such a good idea. Back seats are terrible for young drivers. I think you should take out the passenger seat until she turns 17 as well.

OrbitalEllipses 12-05-2013 03:42 PM

My first car was a Bugeye WRX wagon. Overpowered for a teenager and with enough capacity to bring my friends to do stupid bullshit. Not to mention the fold-down rear seat and wagon greenhouse made it a motel on wheels. ;)

tobin 12-05-2013 03:51 PM

Anything she buys with her own money.

bkblitzed 12-05-2013 04:08 PM

An 80's yota truck. Those 22re motors run forever

regal 12-05-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobin (Post 1371138)
Anything she buys with her own money.

Mom didn't go for that one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkblitzed (Post 1371172)
An 80's yota truck. Those 22re motors run forever



So true those trucks are bullet proof but hard to find around here (people keep them).






Thanks for all the advice. I'm going to spend xmas week working with her on driving a manual, I think I can get it to sink in.

bkblitzed 12-05-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal (Post 1371931)
Mom didn't go for that one.





So true those trucks are bullet proof but hard to find around here (people keep them).






Thanks for all the advice. I'm going to spend xmas week working with her on driving a manual, I think I can get it to sink in.

okay now shift into second, annndd CLUTCH KICK AND COUNTER STEER POWWAAA

wallace03 12-05-2013 10:37 PM

subaru 22b


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