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charged86 12-04-2013 03:21 PM

New dyno results for charged86!!!
 
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps377f79b2.jpg


Dynojet numbers. 375whp. 264trq 15psi. Dynosty tuned pure e85

Video soon....
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_zHnTWT1Cc&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Vortech supercharged frs on a dynojet - YouTube[/ame]

CB390248 12-04-2013 03:49 PM

boom.

bakerr6 12-04-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1368748)
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps377f79b2.jpg


Dynojet numbers. 375whp. 264trq 15psi. Dynosty tuned pure e85

Video soon....


check your text

Mr.Jay 12-04-2013 04:56 PM

Damn corn juice!

Why you not here in Canada cause it looks like hella fun

reyruiz191 12-04-2013 05:18 PM

Really nice results, makes me wanna start running e85 with my setup! Haha

charged86 12-04-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by reyruiz191 (Post 1369015)
Really nice results, makes me wanna start running e85 with my setup! Haha

Do it!

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-04-2013 06:00 PM

the catch is pure e85, by that do you mean racing grade or what ?

nevertheless great numbers !

paulbagz 12-04-2013 06:26 PM

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-PB

charged86 12-04-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1369084)
the catch is pure e85, by that do you mean racing grade or what ?

nevertheless great numbers !

Nope just e85 from my grocery store

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-04-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1369327)
Nope just e85 from my grocery store

:respekt: , perfect ! i think you're the recored holder for the highest hp vortech.

When you stated pure e85 i thought something like c85 my bad

FRSFirestorm 12-04-2013 08:31 PM

Nice! Congrats!

nelsmar 12-04-2013 09:18 PM

Damnit! I wish i had hit a dynojet before my car turned into a paper weight... Someone finally passed me on WHP/TQ on the vortech kit. lol.

(I was 360/260 on a MAHA @ 11.5PSI)

Congrats!

nelsmar 12-04-2013 09:20 PM

P.S. Is you belt slipping? Look at your boost plot.

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-04-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1369431)
Damnit! I wish i had hit a dynojet before my car turned into a paper weight... Someone finally passed me on WHP/TQ on the vortech kit. lol.

(I was 360/260 on a MAHA @ 11.5PSI)

Congrats!

Maha dynos :wub::clap:

only a few are in the states right ? they're not that popular over here ! ( correct me if im wrong )

nelsmar 12-04-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1369446)
Maha dynos :wub::clap:

only a few are in the states right ? they're not that popular over here ! ( correct me if im wrong )

Yup. I think three in the US now. They are just uber expensive... Dynojet is more of the standard over here in the US. I chose to tune on it due to being told it was extremely consistent between pulls. I was caring more about accuracy for my tune than numbers. Though I wanted to hit a dynojet once everything was done for final #'s comparable to what everyone else was dynoing on.

We put a bone stock auto transmission on it, he put down 127WHP. Innovate cars weren't even breaking 200WHP without E85 =x

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-04-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1369452)
Yup. I think three in the US now. They are just uber expensive... Dynojet is more of the standard over here in the US. I chose to tune on it due to being told it was extremely consistent between pulls. I was caring more about accuracy for my tune than numbers. Though I wanted to hit a dynojet once everything was done for final #'s comparable to what everyone else was dynoing on.

We put a bone stock auto transmission on it, he put down 127WHP. Innovate cars weren't even breaking 200WHP without E85 =x

They might be expensive, but a few tuners state that they barely need any maintenance and last a long time ! But also people say the mustang is pretty close to it


Sent from my IBrick

charged86 12-04-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1369431)
Damnit! I wish i had hit a dynojet before my car turned into a paper weight... Someone finally passed me on WHP/TQ on the vortech kit. lol.

(I was 360/260 on a MAHA @ 11.5PSI)

Congrats!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1369435)
P.S. Is you belt slipping? Look at your boost plot.

Why paper weight?

And I see the boost graph is wavy but just think of how sensitive that gauge is. On the second pull I hit 16psi. I'm gonna say I'm not slipping. But heck Idk. Also this is the non hd bearing supercharger which is next. After a carbon drive shaft

charged86 12-04-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1369330)
:respekt: , perfect ! i think you're the recored holder for the highest hp vortech.

When you stated pure e85 i thought something like c85 my bad

Oh no problem lol I need the inline e85 reader.

nelsmar 12-04-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1369470)
Why paper weight?

And I see the boost graph is wavy but just think of how sensitive that gauge is. On the second pull I hit 16psi. I'm gonna say I'm not slipping. But heck Idk. Also this is the non hd bearing supercharger which is next. After a carbon drive shaft

My boost level used to jump up and down a bit too when my belt was slipping. Then after breaking 8 belts (i drive a lot, and i have a lot of "fun"). I finally got the right belt combo working. I made 307WHP with the same tune, same setup... but with a slipping belt. Then after my belt look how clean my boost plot was:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%2041%20PM.png
(I plotted the wrong damn numbers at the bottom of the chart... MAHA dyno's UI SUCKS to work with... it was 360HP/262TQ iirc)

And your plots aren't consistent between pulls either. What belt are you running? I was told by a lot of people that the 3.125" pulley wouldn't do much power in the high rpm, only low which sounded like a belt slip issue... I put on a 3.125" pulley and put down more HP than most the guys on the 2.87" pulley. P.S. I was on full stock exhaust, stock header, stock cat.

I was reading 11.5 PSI before as well. The more load i had the more consistent it was, the lower the load the less consistent. Looks like the higher speed revving would cause more belt slip. My first and second gear pulls were slower than my third and fourth gear. Just trying to help out in the case there is more power to be had! :)

nelsmar 12-04-2013 09:59 PM

And why paper weight? You can PM me and I can talk to you privately. That is still under speculation. But lets just say my car is on jack stands for the next few months. ;)

Edit: There will a massive thread with full details in about a month with my car & build. I was holding off for a grand review of different things i was testing before starting a thread. And now with the recent events it will be making a change. :)

charged86 12-04-2013 10:07 PM

@nelsmar. My belt isn't slipping. My pulls are consistent. +/- 7whp. Look at my other YouTube videos. The first two lower pulls were without a fan. And I think the is something wrong with your math. There is no way you made 360whp with the 3.125 and the stock exhaust. Flame suit enabled. Do you have a vid or just that maha dyno sheet

nelsmar 12-04-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1369547)
@nelsmar. My belt isn't slipping. My pulls are consistent. +/- 7whp. Look at my other YouTube videos. The first two lower pulls were without a fan. And I think the is something wrong with your math. There is no way you made 360whp with the 3.125 and the stock exhaust. Flame suit enabled. Do you have a vid or just that maha dyno sheet

I have multiple dyno sheets... multiple witnesses... logs during the dyno pulls. And I am sure the tuner has a video as well. Dez came and interviewed me and a number of us when my car was tuned. He drove my car when my belt was slipping. I was just trying to help out saying you may have even more power available. If you want ill gladly pm you info from my testing on belts.

P.S. none of that was designed to thread jack, be offensive, or anything. Ive broken more parts than probably most people on this forum and am pretty open about what i have done. And I keep logs & have been doing dynos whenever possible from testing. My next setup will have much more detailed info.

charged86 12-04-2013 10:20 PM

@neslmar I was honestly under the assumption I'd hit atleast 380. But I have the standard blower I've been on the 2.87 for a few months maybe my blower is a little tired I really hope I'm not slipping but who knows if the dyno's boost reader is in consistent. My gauge in the car ramps up very smoothly (not fluttering) but that's a mechanical gauge. Maybe I should get a blue gates belt

nelsmar 12-04-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1369585)
@neslmar I was honestly under the assumption I'd hit atleast 380. But I have the standard blower I've been on the 2.87 for a few months maybe my blower is a little tired I really hope I'm not slipping but who knows if the dyno's boost reader is in consistent. My gauge in the car ramps up very smoothly (not fluttering) but that's a mechanical gauge. Maybe I should get a blue gates belt

stay away from the gates belt, which belt do you have? Like I said i just want to try to help out. If your on the "kit belt" still... then you must be really nice to your car lol. That lasted about 20-30 miles for me. But my climate is very aggressive.

charged86 12-04-2013 10:28 PM

Ill have to go look. Its not the kit belt. I first drive to dynosty for my e85 tune on the 3.125. After they tuned it I wanted more power. So they overnighted and installed the 2.87. And at that point in time no one really knew the correct size. So dynosty tried several belts till they got the right size. Keep in Mind they have supercharhed multiple upon multiple vehicles. (Check their blog). So I am very confident I have the right size. They told me which belt months ago but I have forgotten and I'm in bed already. Yes I'm lazy

jack43 12-04-2013 10:28 PM

Nice numbers!
i am rocking the 2.87" and have seen 13psi on the FA20club vent gauge.

nelsmar 12-04-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1369608)
Ill have to go look. Its not the kit belt. I first drive to dynosty for my e85 tune on the 3.125. After they tuned it I wanted more power. So they overnighted and installed the 2.87. And at that point in time no one really knew the correct size. So dynosty tried several belts till they got the right size. Keep in Mind they have supercharhed multiple upon multiple vehicles. (Check their blog). So I am very confident I have the right size. They told me which belt months ago but I have forgotten and I'm in bed already. Yes I'm lazy

Ah good just wanted to make sure. I had a vendor tell me incorrectly which size to use. A lot of people sport the blue racing belt and i wouldn't be surprised if it was slipping pretty bad.

charged86 12-05-2013 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1369622)
Ah good just wanted to make sure. I had a vendor tell me incorrectly which size to use. A lot of people sport the blue racing belt and i wouldn't be surprised if it was slipping pretty bad.

Well to me its not slipping

nelsmar 12-05-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1369876)
Well to me its not slipping

Sorry I. Are a typo in my post. I meant that the blue belt would slip pretty bad. I think jacks car may have been slipping him and me ran on the same dyno but there were a number of mechanical issues on his car that were later resolved once he dynos again we will find out if he had a slip issue :) I meant that you may not be skipping as you had actually replaced your belt. I typically trust dynasty's word of advice my self. Although I have no idea what belt they recommend. They actually test their stuff unlike some shops.

King Tut 12-05-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1368748)
Dynojet numbers. 375whp. 264trq 15psi. Dynosty tuned pure e85

That is about what I figured you were making after we dynoed our cars at the 86 Nationals, and I knew what mine made on a Dynojet.

charged86 12-05-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1370372)
That is about what I figured you were making after we dynoed our cars at the 86 Nationals, and I knew what mine made on a Dynojet.

Yeppers

Diode Dynamics 12-05-2013 01:10 PM

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Nick C.

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-07-2013 03:25 PM

Booom http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53027

jack43 12-07-2013 04:42 PM

Brett who was dyno-ing my car, his words were:

"There's no way that fucken belt is slippin'!"

charged86 12-08-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1375171)

Mine is still faster. :threadjacked:

charged86 12-08-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1375171)


Hmm

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-08-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1377056)
My numbers are in corrected or smoothed. His were smoothed by 5. Sae 1.05. Repost his dyno uncorrected and in smoothed. ............boooom. thanks

Will that escalated quickly, only posted it in a "friendly" comparison ?


Sent from my IBrick

FA20Club.com 12-08-2013 07:21 PM

Your chart was SAE and from the smoothing of you map looks like you had smoothing turned up to 5 as well. if you drop the smoothing down to "0" it will be identical to "5" major differences are around "3" on the smoothing. Ill get Jack's drf files and if you want you can send yours over and ill overlay them for you in multiple settings of correction and smoothing. Either way both cars made good power. Jacks on his stock header and E77 on that run as well.

charged86 12-08-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 1377072)
Your chart was SAE and from the smoothing of you map looks like you had smoothing turned up to 5 as well. if you drop the smoothing down to "0" it will be identical to "5" major differences are around "3" on the smoothing. Ill get Jack's drf files and if you want you can send yours over and ill overlay them for you in multiple settings of correction and smoothing. Either way both cars made good power. Jacks on his stock header and E77 on that run as well.

Mine are only printed unless I call that place. I actually didn't see the sae correct 5 in the top of my graph. But it does not say sae 1.05 by my file run numbers is what I was thinking. I actually got a little pissed when what's his name posted that link and was like "boom". If he would have said I found this car with big numbers too. But he decided to troll

charged86 12-08-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1377063)
Will that escalated quickly, only posted it in a "friendly" comparison ?


Sent from my IBrick

Its not friendly to say "boom". But doesn't really matter because my car is on vortechs blog and his isnt. So boom.


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