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TylerLieberman 11-30-2013 03:36 PM

Todoroki Front Fenders
 
Hey guys! So I've been seeing a lot of interest spike up about these front fenders.

I've personally talked to Daisuke-san (owner of the silver 86) and his representative who helped with the English/JP language barrier. After talking to them, I got a price quote of $1,320 shipped to my zip code. Of course, that price would vary a bit from location to location but that gives you the basic idea of what the price is for these.

They are 30mm wider than stock and FRP in material. Full fender replacement and direct bolt on. They can be purchased with or without the small add on piece at the bottom of the fender. With will cost a little extra (not sure exactly how much). These things are super gangster, really clean and fitment is spot on. I personally think these look way better than the rocket bunny bandwagon fenders that are on every single car in the world now adays.

Any who, I have been talking with a long time family friend and he has also gotten in touch with Daisuke-San regarding these fenders and talked about what it would take to get them here. So far, I have 6 people including myself who have expressed interest in buying them.

So, with that being said, if you are interested in them PM me and I can give you more info. If you have any questions/comments/concerns and I can't answer them, I can get in touch with my friend or Daisuke-san himself to find out an answer for you.

If not, just scroll through and enjoy the pics/footage.:D I'll post more pictures and videos of the car as they surface.


Please keep in mind:
THIS IS NOT A GROUPBUY THREAD!!
All this thread is doing is allowing me to point everybody else who is interested in the right direction to purchase them.

There will be no purchasing/advertising or anything on this actual forum. Again, I'm just compiling the info into one thread for these fenders and pointing you in the right direction if you want them.


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RUNAMUK 11-30-2013 04:00 PM

This is definitely going on my to do list. Thanks for the link.:thumbup:

YDNA 11-30-2013 10:55 PM

these are so dope, wish i had the money for these :/

FRSBeginner 11-30-2013 10:58 PM

Point me to these fenders when available then I'll start saving up again :D

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PRORICAN 11-30-2013 11:00 PM

Do want!

Wonderbar 12-01-2013 12:15 PM

Those are sexy. That price tag though.

humanshield 12-01-2013 12:17 PM

these are awesome.

Vten 12-01-2013 12:26 PM

yum yum 10" squared w/255 or 265 tires

zooki 12-01-2013 05:34 PM

So, are these for actual drivers, or just "hard parkers"? 'Cause they look like they have "rock chips galore" written all over them if you actually drive .

TylerLieberman 12-01-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki (Post 1362813)
So, are these for actual drivers, or just "hard parkers"? 'Cause they look like they have "rock chips galore" written all over them if you actually drive .

They can definitely be used on a driven car. If you're worried , you can always apply a clear bra to that section

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-01-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki (Post 1362813)
So, are these for actual drivers, or just "hard parkers"? 'Cause they look like they have "rock chips galore" written all over them if you actually drive .

the owner of this car drifts it

How hard is it to replace fenders ? whats the process and can it be taken back to stock ?

TylerLieberman 12-01-2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1362980)
the owner of this car drifts it

How hard is it to replace fenders ? whats the process and can it be taken back to stock ?


Unbolt front bumper. Unbolt fenders. Install new fenders. Re-install bumper. Done.

The fenders are 100% bolt on and require no modification. The car can easily be returned to stock.

Frostyman 12-02-2013 10:11 AM

I'm curious, there are 30mm wider you say? What's the difference in width between the front and back of the stock car? I'm just curious if these will make the car more "square" or if it will make the front wider than the rear.

I was under the impression that the 10mm wider fronts another company offers allows for a square wheel setup with the same offset in front and back without the front poke and rear tuck present on the stock vehicle.

Thanks for whatever info you can provide.

TylerLieberman 12-02-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostyman (Post 1363867)
I'm curious, there are 30mm wider you say? What's the difference in width between the front and back of the stock car? I'm just curious if these will make the car more "square" or if it will make the front wider than the rear.

I was under the impression that the 10mm wider fronts another company offers allows for a square wheel setup with the same offset in front and back without the front poke and rear tuck present on the stock vehicle.

Thanks for whatever info you can provide.

I honestly can't give you an exact answer because I've never personally seen the 10mm fenders or these ones.

However, I'm noticing some people who are at lower ride heights and running wider wheels/tires are having rubbing issues. Having the wider fenders will allow you to push the wheels out further and create more clearnance inward.

At full lock, I rub a little bit on the inner fender well. I run 17x9 +35 RPF1s with 15mm spacers on 215/45 tires. 30mm fenders and additional spacers will eliminate that for sure. Especially since I'm modding my knuckles this weekend and will have even more angle

RUNAMUK 12-02-2013 11:12 AM

I'm hoping to get at least a 3" deep dish clearance from these fenders on my BBK all round and square. 255/18"!? Fingers crossed.

jamesm 12-02-2013 11:30 AM

do they have a matching set for the rear? it would look kinda weird all wide in the front and skinny in the back lol.

TylerLieberman 12-02-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1363981)
do they have a matching set for the rear? it would look kinda weird all wide in the front and skinny in the back lol.


No matching set for the rear. I think the stock body lines on the rear quarter panel are great just how they are anyways. I can't stand the nonsense rocket bunny crap.

Hopefully, somebody will produce a set of rear-overs that keep the OE lines while just making the overall width a bit wider.

I think the front fenders compliment the stock body well..
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RUNAMUK 12-02-2013 11:44 AM

Definitely they do.

civicdrivr 12-03-2013 12:18 PM

I really wish there was an outfit here in the states would make these at a more reasonable price. They're really nice looking , but I can't bring myself to spend more than $700 for a set of fenders and then have to worry about paint on top of that.

g0lden 12-03-2013 09:36 PM

I want these, but that price tag...
If they were in the $700 range I be all over these.

ft86me 12-03-2013 10:07 PM

really want these, but just having a hard time finding out if there will be a nasty gap with 18x10 +44. i don't want to use spacers so idkkkkk. might have to wait until people have tried it out.

jshadeck 12-03-2013 10:20 PM

I will be measuring based off my 9.5 +38s this weekend if that helps you im more than happy to post my info

ft86me 12-03-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 1367392)
I will be measuring based off my 9.5 +38s this weekend if that helps you im more than happy to post my info

Yes please. I currently have that same setup and the +44 will be pretty damn close to the same. Appreciate it !!


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civicdrivr 12-04-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1367365)
really want these, but just having a hard time finding out if there will be a nasty gap with 18x10 +44. i don't want to use spacers so idkkkkk. might have to wait until people have tried it out.

There will be about a 12-15mm gap between the wheel face and fender lip. I'm basing that off my wheels which are 18x8.5 +44, which are nearly the fender lip with the 245/35s.

My wheels sit .75" further inboard than yours. .75" = ~18mm. 30mm (which is how much wider these fenders are vs stock) - 18mm = 12mm.

This is assuming a 285mm tire, but your camber settings are a variable I can't account for.

The 9.5 +38s should be about the same.

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jshadeck 12-04-2013 07:55 AM

So, less than 3/4" from flush? What amount of camber are you basing that on, stock? I am staying close to -1.3 myself with about a 1.5-2" lowering

TylerLieberman 12-04-2013 08:18 AM

Bolt on spacers + more camber.


Idk what you're using the car for but it you're it for drifting, the additional scrub radius gained from spacers and more nevagtive camber up front are both good things. Not to mention that the lower in offset you go, the more steering angle the car can generally get.

May not be that noticeable but a car with 17x9 +45 up front will have slightly less achievable steering angle than a car with 17x9 +25 up front.

For comparison, I run 17x9 +35 (+20 with 15mm spacers) up front with 215/45 tires and poke out MAYBE 1/4" inch with -3 camber. With the fenders and new knuckles, I'll end up going with another 20mm in spacers and -3.5 camber up front

TylerLieberman 12-04-2013 08:25 AM

Also, here is some coverage up the shop which show some good angles of the fenders on the car
http://midnightroulette.wordpress.co...86-specialist/

Ryaquinn 12-04-2013 08:59 AM

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civicdrivr 12-04-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 1368000)
So, less than 3/4" from flush? What amount of camber are you basing that on, stock? I am staying close to -1.3 myself with about a 1.5-2" lowering

Yes, I'm running stock alignment specs up front. I'm also lowered about 2". I think, maybe more. The highest part of the fender edge is just about 26.25" from the ground.

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DriftEightSix 12-04-2013 10:32 PM

does it need a new front bumper that is also wider?

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 12-05-2013 08:14 PM

best looking fender i've seen by far...i'm very interested.

OICU812 12-06-2013 12:39 PM

Pretty bad ass actually, I agree I like this look much more then rocket bunny stuff that's been so over done already IMO.

tech4pdx 12-06-2013 12:58 PM

Uhhh.. No. FRP kills it. Also, that add-on piece makes it look very odd.

civicdrivr 12-06-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech4pdx (Post 1373006)
Uhhh.. No. FRP kills it. Also, that add-on piece makes it look very odd.

What material would you prefer (serious question)?

tech4pdx 12-06-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 1373122)
What material would you prefer (serious question)?

I owned a vehicle once (10+ years ago) that came OEM with the majority of its body panels made of fiberglass (essentially FRP). Really high quality, but OEM spends millions on tooling (so expected). Most FRP I've seen in the aftermarket fits badly and looks bad. I would prefer a pre-preg carbon fiber material (expensive) or even aluminum with the welds clearly visible. I realize that OEM tooling is out of reach for the majority of aftermarket, so FRP can't be expected to be anything of high quality. Even shops who I've spoke to who do FRP body panel installs regularly are honest about the cutting, molding, fitting, drilling issues that arise. I also realize cost is a factor.

My opinion of course. Always welcome to disregard it. :)

tech4pdx 12-06-2013 03:12 PM

Todoroki Front Fenders
 
When the aftermarket chooses to be honest about their FRP manufacturing processes, such as providing info/pics on the quality of their molds (level of precision IN = level of precision OUT), the nature of the material they are using, the amount of time they are leaving their FRP parts on the molds to cure, their test fit policies, etc, then I might change my mind. The reality is this probably won't happen because they know they are producing sub-par parts. It's a cost issue.

jshadeck 12-07-2013 10:21 AM

What material options are there for body kits? Frp, carbon, and?

civicdrivr 12-07-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 1374736)
What material options are there for body kits? Frp, carbon, and?

A select few are polyurethane.

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empower-auto 12-07-2013 01:13 PM

It's not hard to make good quality fiber fenders. Vertex makes beautiful pieces. My JZZ30 fenders are flawless.

jshadeck 12-07-2013 04:49 PM

Ok. So its safe to say that a HUGE portion of the body parts made in the past century for all cars were frp? Ive had very few carbon parts, and ive never had a poor fitment. Maybe cause i bought name brand and not ebay specials lol.


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