Even at more than twice the price, money no object..
 

I would still pick the FRS...
My friend came by yesterday with his new BMW Z4 which he just bought.
The 28i version with the 4 cylinder turbo with every option available including the M suspension package.. Nice looking car! Lots of Luxo features like heated steering wheel, 8 spd auto, M package, etc..
So I took it for a spin.. Didn't take but 20 feet of driving to realize its not for me.. It felt heavy and slow in its "feel" thru the steering wheel. Lacking the crisp response I'm now used to with the twins.. Brakes were grabby and non linear.
It's quick though! You get a slight pause when you nail it and then it takes off like a small V8 ! Would dust me off the line for sure.. But that where the fun ends for the Z4.. It's nice and all.. More comfy and civilized for sure.. And the hardtop convert is awesome indeed.. But for pure driving fun, driver feedback and best entry price... The FRS is the one to have!
I congratulated him and sent him on his way... I then just smiled to myself realizing what a fun toy I have... My smile grew bigger when I realized how much money I saved while having more fun.. Good stuff!
Happy holidays to you all!

Why are 50% of the posts on this forum a giant circle jerk about how brilliant we all are for buying the same car?

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I would much rather see people talking about how great the car is, than complaining.

Then you can read the other 50% where everyone is complaining about the "cricket problems", rattles or how this car lacks power if that makes you happy.

I was at the track during the summer and came across a Z4 3.0si. Our cars and driving skills were so evenly matched, it was a lot of fun running together. I talked to him afterwards and told him I thought we were pretty evenly matched. He said he couldn't believe how fast I was flying through the corners, but said he could make up some speed in the straights. That seemed about right from what I could see. They seem like fun cars and he seemed to be having a great time.

You can see him in this picture:

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Wow why are you so angry? I love hearing posts about how much people are enjoying their cars. What are you expecting on an FR-S forum, people who hate their cars?

Hahahahaha! Seriously! It's a love-hate relationship with these cars.

They look so great and handle so well that it's really hard to NOT compare them to more expensive cars. At the same time I do feel a little butt-hurt when my friends point out the car's flaws.

I don't care. I waited a long time for someone to build a fun innexpensive coupe. Hopefully they will cost less to maintain than the more expensive cars we are always comparing them to. :-)

Thanks for the laugh while I work and everyone else I know is out shopping.

What does one expect to see on an online car forum? Love, complaints, and help with repairs.

Most of the circle jerk is more than likely coming from new(er) owners. Nothing wrong with that. This car isn't getting rave reviews from enthusiasts magazines/blogs/columns for nothing. While I'm not the type of person to post a new thread about how amazing the car is (which I didn't do when I first got my car), to each his own. The car is awesome... no need to rag on anyone for posting about it.

I hope you have your flame suit ready...

I complement the OP. I was pretty well postured to buy a new Cayman when I opted for the FR-S instead. I have never regretted my decision.

I will hate on BMW. They are now building cars more suitable for straight line performance and highway cruising than they are for twisty roads. The lightest car in their line-up now weighs over 3000LB. On top of that, they are so expensive to repair that you can't afford to own one out of warranty.

I talked my son into buying a FR-S. If he had bought a BMW I would have disowned him. Well, maybe not disowned him but I would not have worked on the damn thing.

Buy a BMW if you are more concerned about your status than driving enjoyment!

Right on. Own any german car is like you pay twice. Pay one to drive it home and pay thousands more to maintain in the long run.

I traded in a BMW for th FR-S. The BMW was overweight and too expensive too maintain. I always wanted a BMW. Unfortunately, I wanted the BMW from decades ago, not the bloated luxury car it is today. Since I don't want to mess with an antique, Asian sports car it is.

Because the other 50% is devoted to how slow and how unreliable the car is..
and about the noisy HPFP..

Because 50% of us are drinking from the same kool-aid container .... ;)

humfrz

My excitement comes from stepping out of a car that cost more than twice the price and enjoying it so much!! That's plenty to be excited about..

My son has a 335i and loves it.. I'm not dissing the Z4.. Just stating how happy I am with my purchase and what I enjoy about the FRS..
It was a good choice for my friend who bought the Z4.. As he travels a lot and needed a good highway cruiser.. A better choice than the FRS for his needs..
Less is more in my book when it comes to sport cars..

Fun to drive... Just not fun to own...

It's an enthusiast car, so ofcourse the typical person who buys this car will be more excited than the typical person who buys a honda odyssey.

I don't know... My son and Dinlaw was pretty enthusiastic when they got their odyssey and the boys were not on top of them anymore with lots of room to spare.. Lol..

You can also get hooked with a girl, or marry one through Any forums...in this age.

So be polite, and you may get one, rather than being ignorant:party0030: ?

Wise sir. Very true. Incoming Lexus RC will be just as good, if not better.

Wut. This doesn't make sense. Would you really rather have people circle jerking about how bad the car is and how stupid they were for buying the same car? Use some logic here buddy.

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I guess over exaggerating about it do annoy people, as said, there are better car if money is not an issue.

Its really amazing the penis this car pulls

I also heard that, but even if it is released, I don't think I have the money to afford one. The IS-F is in the 60ish. Twin Turbo it probably going upward to 100k figure as the GT-R, or even more

So far I hear Lexus is having new L Turbo engine 4. I think it is going to be in the NX. But it would be an awesome one to have in the RC also.

I do not think Lexus would make a baby version 4 turbo and the father version twin turbo 8 on the same model. If they do, god bless them, and their next...next....next generation LOL!!!!

At twice the price I'll take a c7 or a Chevy SS.

To be completely honest if I could buy a brand new Z4 with the money I paid for 86, I'd go Z4. It is a very sweet looking car.

LOL! Is that an offer? I suppose I could defend myself by saying that I already listed love, but I meant love for the car. I also suppose it's possible to find a woman on this forum, but the odds are pretty bad. Finding a man might be easier. My money is on there being very few women here, but lots of closeted guys.

Mostly, I'm just confused as to why you said all that. What did I say to earn it?

Double the pleasure, double the fun, that's the statement that the Twins get when you're driving in the sun

I am sorry, the part of "be polite, rather than being ignorant" was not intended toward you

I just generally take it as when you think that the thing you Own is the best of the world = ignorant. It is obviously, not you.

Make yourself at home. And it's because we ARE brilliant for buying an FR-S/BRZ.

What you HATE the most on your FR-S/BRZ/GT86/FT86?

Fem or gay?

the nice guy that walked up to the car and wanted me to go for a walk in the woods with him


he was totally gay.

seemed like a swell fella though

The only thing I worry about the car (still waiting for mine) is the chirping and creaking problems. Are these still present on new MY2014 model cars?

The crickets are common. It's not harmful to the car in any way, it just sounds like a cricket chirping once the oil has reached operating temps. Some people absolutely hate it, but it doesn't bother me at all. In fact, the crickets let me know when the engine is fully warmed up and ready for action.

In terms of creaking problems... I haven't had these yet, but I'm only at 2300 miles so far.

The only issue that bothers me is the rough shifting while the fluid temps are still cold right now (~30 degrees outside). This is the first stick I've ever owned that I needed to double clutch to downshift into 2nd. The minor grind into 2nd from 1st when the fluid and ambient temps are cold is also bothersome. Luckily, I'll be changing my diff and tranny fluid to Motul Gear 300 in the next week or so.

Other than that... I love my car. No complaints and no regrets.

Late to the circle party.

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Disagree. The FR-S wins because of what it doesn't have: weight. The inherent lightness of being the FR-S makes it a bit magical.

I also could have purchased any car I wanted to under 40G and after test driving several I got the FR-S and I haven't regretted it for one minute..
All vehicles have there little quirks/problems of which so far I haven't experienced any of which I've heard mentioned so far; but I trust that Toyota/Scion will take care of them as they always have. In my experience over the course of thirty years and if not mistaken 7 vehicles they have always taken care of things.
And a brief mention on this forum I happen to like it at least it not one large classified Ads which some for these cars are