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phenoyz 04-22-2012 01:08 AM

Philippines on HIGH ALERT vs. china's INVASION
 
The Republic of the Philippines, on its HIGHEST ALERT against a very possible chinise invasion in the Scarborough islands which belongs to the Philippines.
That the communist chinise desperately wants.

http://www.philstar.com/default.aspx

China deploys big ship - The Philippine Star » News » Headlines

Paper says China should be ready for small-scale war with Phl

carbonBLUE 04-22-2012 01:41 AM

im filipino, ohh noes my relatives!

Dark 04-22-2012 02:30 AM

Why are they doing it this way in today world?

Dimman 04-22-2012 02:36 AM

It's just a pissing match between two coast guard boats ffs...

blu_ 04-22-2012 02:47 AM

WORLD WAR III... not a troll either.

phenoyz 04-22-2012 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 188980)
Why are they doing it this way in today world?

The reason for this is reserve gas and possibly oil.

Another reason is, there was a story in economist.com / stratfor.com detailing the chinise plan of an "imaginary line", this is a defense line in which they have to get those islands to become part of that defense in case of a foreign attack.

As one of the claimants in the Spratleys Island, china MURDERED those
Vietnamese!!! This HAPPENED in 1988.

This dispute has been going on for a long time.

In case NOBODY Knows:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy2ZrFphSmc&feature=related"]China´s massacre in Spratly islands [real footage 1988] - YouTube[/ame]

Dimman 04-22-2012 03:18 AM

It's one coast guard boat according to that article and no shooting. Hell Canadian Coast Guard SHOT at some Spanish fisherman for illegally being in our water years ago. Guess what? No war with Spain.

phenoyz 04-22-2012 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 188997)
It's one coast guard boat according to that article and no shooting. Hell Canadian Coast Guard SHOT at some Spanish fisherman for illegally being in our water years ago. Guess what? No war with Spain.

We would like something like that to happen. :peace:

Lordharding 04-22-2012 04:29 AM

This is developing into a nasty incident with possibly bigger reprocess ions

We have a place in Cebu as well as uk

phenoyz 04-28-2012 11:23 PM

http://www.economist.com/debate/debates/overview/227

jkonquer 05-07-2012 04:55 AM

It seems like china is playing lot of cards at the moment. North korea being one of them

phenoyz 05-15-2012 01:05 PM

China's plans to dominate the skies
 
http://www.economist.com/node/21554492


better bring back the jobs here in America

phenoyz 05-15-2012 01:33 PM

China's Maritime Surveillance Plans
 
Stratfor | Geopolitical intelligence, economic, political, and military strategic forecasting
China's bolstered maritime enforcement fleet and assertive maneuvering will increase the likelihood of confrontation in a region rife with other claimants.

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...ina_sea_v2.jpg

phenoyz 05-15-2012 01:44 PM

^ that is communist china's AMBITIOUS military imaginary line
as can be seen TAIWAN is included INSIDE the line

phenoyz 05-16-2012 01:09 PM

Sino ‘bullying,’ sticks to ‘right is might’
 
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/184335/...right-is-might

phenoyz 05-18-2012 03:20 PM

China pursuing steady military build-up: Pentagon
 
http://news.yahoo.com/china-pursuing...165858896.html

Scratch705 05-23-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 212819)
^ that is communist china's AMBITIOUS military imaginary line
as can be seen TAIWAN is included INSIDE the line

which is a big mistake since half the population of taiwan hates china. while the other half are traitors to the country.

phenoyz 12-09-2013 03:57 PM

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/key-u-lawma...011057564.html

phenoyz 12-09-2013 04:04 PM

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/china-ships...030418460.html

phenoyz 12-10-2013 04:02 PM

http://qz.com/151301/china-b52s-air-...on-zone-japan/

phenoyz 12-10-2013 04:11 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/23/world/...puted-islands/

phenoyz 12-10-2013 04:14 PM

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/a...ina-sea-claims

Kelbyat07 12-10-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1381516)



Lol nice signature.


China is always trying to do something so let's watch and see if they are really going to pull through this time.

Frost 12-10-2013 05:45 PM

You know, this kind of reaction is precisely what they want. They want all of you guys to foam at the mouth and look like fools and fire the first shot.

Situations like this call for business as usual on the front lines (publicly) and internally ramp up the reconnaissance and intelligence efforts to probe and see what the fluff really is.

As for "communist" China, I think the Russians are scarier than China. They hold vital fuel and natural resources and can pretty much let most of eastern Europe drop dead in winter claiming "unpaid bills". China has also had a strenous relationship with Russia (various copy cat issues of Kalashnikovs, arms deals going sour or not being renewed and replaced with clear knock-offs, etc.).

China isn't stupid enough to do something to provoke the region but must assert herself in the area (it IS her backyard after all).

How come we are all ok if the US steps into someone else's backyard?

Stop fear mongering - unless you are a Chinese spy?

Fluxx 12-10-2013 06:01 PM

You might have missed it, but the US overflew China's horribly outdated aircraft carrier right around Thanksgiving with 2 B-52 Stratofortresses. It pissed them off, but they have cooled off a bit on their sabre rattling over the Ryukyu islands.

teamturbo 12-10-2013 08:40 PM

The Chinese government is an enemy to humanity. Don't give them an inch of wiggle room.

phenoyz 12-10-2013 11:09 PM

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-i...153936547.html

phenoyz 12-10-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 1381702)
China isn't stupid enough to do something to provoke the region but must assert herself in the area (it IS her backyard after all).

How come we are all ok if the US steps into someone else's backyard?

Stop fear mongering - unless you are a Chinese spy?

Do you know what your talking about????
This is the information AGE !!! READ - READ - READ the news,
be informed on whats happening in this planet that we all live in...

(stupid comment> this is her backyard...)

phenoyz 12-10-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07 (Post 1381683)
Lol nice signature.
China is always trying to do something so let's watch and see if they are really going to pull through this time.

This has been their goal for a long time, problem was at that time they were not strong enough...

Actually they have started the first phase, which was establishing that air defense zone
this is their COMPLETE PLAN...to CLAIM MOST OF THE West Philippine sea, stretching out to spratleys...

I have a lot of Chinese friends, and I think Chinese people HATE their government but CAN NOT DO anything because of FEAR of BEING MURDERED/KILLED

It is the PEOPLE/DEMONS in the government that is responsible for this!!! The PLA !!!



http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...ina_sea_v2.jpg

RFB 12-10-2013 11:50 PM

Nothing new here -
 
This chinee effort (and others laying claim) has been going on for years - Just nobody notices or cares.

It SHOULD be world news. ( The Yellow Peril ).

The Chinese economy WILL be the worlds leading economy eventually ( much sooner when Obama's successor and the military industrial complex finishes his beginning of the collapse of the U.S. economy ). :mad0260:

RFB 12-11-2013 12:04 AM

Addendum !
 
I know a lot of pistol happy pillipinos (IPSC is the national sport). - Very proud, honourable, nationalistic people (rightfully so given what they have been through as staunch allies of the yanks) -

They deserve much more support from the allies - :brokenheart:

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif
Cerberus

RFB 12-11-2013 12:12 AM

YUP!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1382488)
This has been their goal for a long time, problem was at that time they were not strong enough...

Actually they have started the first phase, which was establishing that air defense zone
this is their COMPLETE PLAN...to CLAIM MOST OF THE West Philippine sea, stretching out to spratleys...

I have a lot of Chinese friends, and I think Chinese people HATE their government but CAN NOT DO anything because of FEAR of BEING MURDERED/KILLED

It is the PEOPLE/DEMONS in the government that is responsible for this!!! The PLA !!!



http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...ina_sea_v2.jpg

However - ALL Governments are corrupt and all powerful.
How can you get the Chinese slaves to overthrough the evil ?
Unfortunately we will have to wait until greed (corporate capitalism) takes over there (starting already) and then make mutually profitable deals.

Money talks - politics walks - :bonk:

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif
Cerberus

Frost 12-11-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenoyz (Post 1382480)
Do you know what your talking about????
This is the information AGE !!! READ - READ - READ the news,
be informed on whats happening in this planet that we all live in...

(stupid comment> this is her backyard...)

Yes, this is also the age where MISinformation is much more abundant than true information.

China will become the next superpower and fear mongering isn't going to prevent that. Violence will also not help either.

Whitigir 12-11-2013 10:51 AM

China become the Supreme Super Power Country ?

Am I reading that right ?

LOL!!!!

Dream on!!! and then in your Dream...Dream a bit even more.

RFB 12-11-2013 11:42 AM

Future Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383212)
China become the Supreme Super Power Country ?

Am I reading that right ?

LOL!!!!

Dream on!!! and then in your Dream...Dream a bit even more.

Dream about strength in numbers.
It has won every war (not battles) - in human history.

Make China dependent on us economically.
After the Hong Kong takeover they started to get addicted to capitalism.
Forward thinking countries have already started making deals with the little buggers.

Money talks war walks.

:sign0015:

Frost 12-11-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383212)
China become the Supreme Super Power Country ?

Am I reading that right ?

LOL!!!!

Dream on!!! and then in your Dream...Dream a bit even more.

You read it wrong - I said:

Quote:

China will become the next superpower
Ignore it all you want. The writing is on the wall.

Funnily enough, China is employing "The Art of War" quite well - they are trying to win without fighting any wars (the penultimate victory according to that scripture) and they seem to be doing so at the expense of your fanaticism.

Whitigir 12-11-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 1383431)
You read it wrong - I said:



Ignore it all you want. The writing is on the wall.

Funnily enough, China is employing "The Art of War" quite well - they are trying to win without fighting any wars (the penultimate victory according to that scripture) and they seem to be doing so at the expense of your fanaticism.

Was there any "Made in China" thing that last ? Just only one thing

There are thousands of other things as well.

Let me remind you that their Art Of War was useless against the Japanese in WWII.

Frost 12-11-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383446)
Was there any "Made in China" thing that last ? Just only one thing

There are thousands of other things as well.

Let me remind you that their Art Of War was useless against the Japanese in WWII.

They didn't employ it against the Japs due to several issues in their own homeland - re: leadup to Chinese Civil war.

To say the Art of War is useless in that sense is like saying Physics was useless against the French from the Nazis.

How did you go from "China invading Philippines" to "made in China"? I bet you own at least 3-4 items that fed the Chinese economy. Point the figure at yourself too.

This conversation grows tiring - clearly you are exploiting gaps in your own understanding of East Asian history in general to make your point and you can't have a logical debate with a fanatic.

Have you read the Art of War? It isn't a rulebook - it's more of a philosophical work that you live by. That was my intention when I invoked that they are employing it to good effect. You are vilifying something you don't have any understanding of.

RFB 12-11-2013 01:53 PM

Art Of War
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 1383446)
Was there any "Made in China" thing that last ? Just only one thing

There are thousands of other things as well.

Let me remind you that their Art Of War was useless against the Japanese in WWII.

But strength in numbers was VERY effective. ;)

It is the current American strength in numbers that is hoped to keep other countries imperialism in check and to a great extent does just that.

America has the greatest military force in the world as a result of its corporate military industrial complex. As recources dwindle less and less wealth is available to the common citizen of the U.S. Those resources are allocated to arms.

The yellow peril however, when their capitalist abilities expand, will be able to allocate more resources to arms than America because China has no citizens - they are slaves and as such will not be allocated any wealth.

The problem for China is that for capitalism to generate wealth, consumers with wealth are needed to buy goods.
China has already learned this with a city of upscale housing deserted because there are no people with enough money to afford the housing !

Russia converted to capitalism with some success (the KGB mafia are the nouveau riche).
China's political culture methinks will make it more difficult, but there will be wealthy mandarins (the political ruling class).

The greatest danger is capitalism failing and the yellow peril resorting to colonialism (as did Nippon prior to WWII). :sigh:

Once their arms outnumber the U.S.-
:23:LOOK OUT !:fighting0040:

Dimman 12-11-2013 02:31 PM

China's saber rattling is just an indication of their failing economy. Their wage inflation, coupled with their poor indigenous quality has led to massive losses in the manufacturing sector they are overdependent on. The results is that while increased wages have made it no longer competitive internationally, they haven't increased enough to float their weak economy through domestic consumption.

Foreign investment kept them alive and growing through their inefficient system, but it is now leaving to developing countries like Vietnam and China is panicking. Their border spats are nothing but a desperate attempt to distract an increasingly unemployed and frustrated population from looking within, and back to revolution.


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