FA20CLUB Oil Cooler Kit Liquid/Liquid
 

FA20Club is pleased to bring the FT86 community the FA20Club liquid to liquid oil cooler kit. :thumbup:


After months of testing on both road race and forced induction vehicles we have come up with a suitable kit for all owners of the BRZ & FR-S. What makes our kit differ from the competition is the ease of installation as well as the ability to run the high CFM OEM fans without compromising your pre-existing components. What this means to you is no more stressing on hot to relocate of modify your turbos intercoler or premounted transmission coolers for those AT owners. This kit is guaranteed to fit Innovate, Vortech, P&L, RevWorks, D3PE, Kraftwerks, AVO, Jackson Racing as well as our kits without issues.

We start off with a Billet machines spacer with bulletted port to help maintain oil pressure unlike the cheap adapters currently available. We then give you the option for either thermostatic or non thermostatic sandwich adapters. Lines are supplied in either stainless steel braided or nylon braided with Petroleum compatible liners.


The epicenter of the kit is the high quality Laminova Oil Cooler assembly. For those not familiar with them a simple Google search will yield tons of information regarding their products that are world famous for heat exchanging in fluid & air charge products. This causes a slight increase in price but lends to the quality we seek with this kit. Our initial testing saw consistent temps in the area of 195-197 degrees with consecutive laps and back to back 500HP dyno passes on our turbocharged vehicle without cool down times. This is the advantage to a fluid cooled system vs air. The system is cooled by the high capacity Aluminum Radiator that flows fluid through the oil cooler assembly making it possible to get your oil temp to match that of your cooler engine coolant temps. What this shows is a level of consistency with the system that will both provide you the owner consistent power delivery as well as protecting your engines exposure to the harsh conditions associated with high oil temps and breakdown because of it.

So is this an integrated radiator/oil cooler like the Robispec, or is it a separate water cooled oil cooler?

I see what looks like a radiator with lines and takeoff plate in one pic, and what looks like an oil cooler in front of the radiator in the other pic.

looks awesome! a little pricey but those cores aren't cheap. is it possible to move the core over to the side a bit for those of us with air filters where it is now? it'd probably fit but i'd imagine that thing gets pretty hot, probably better to move it away from the air filter a bit if possible.

also, where does the radiator go? between the stock rad and the intercooler?

In a way yes but we offer an external exchange which provides a better disposition and will increase efficiency vs. one that is all integrated.

You do have flexibility on sliding the cooler a bit for mounting purpose:thumbsup:.

We chose this setup as it does not require any modification of your current setups. Meaning that the radiator is a direct replacement for your OEM and uses your OEM fans/shroud. This way if your kits fit with your OEM radiator:respekt: then this kit will work for you.

oh so the radiator provided replaces the stock rad, not supplementing it. that's awesome! i'd guess it's an improvement over the stock unit.

makes the price seem a lot more reasonable :)

Thanks sorry if was not clear but all pieces pictured will be shipped as a new kit.;)

It's still not clear, to me anyway. Why is the new radiator required? Does it include the inlet/outlet ports to provide the oil cooler? Or is it just marketing as most customers that want the oil cooler, will also want the rad? Not that the marketing option would be bad, I'm just trying understand.

It is a nice looking product, I'm a big fan of the stability and reliability of a liquid to liquid setup. Did you guys do any testing on oil warm up times, stock vs. non-thermostatic vs. thermostatic setup?

As I see it its a Mishimoto bigger radiator, with a Laminova type oil cooler. I guess they include an aftermarket radiator since adding a turbo is already taxing the stock cooling system so adding an liquid to liquid oil cooler would be even worse on the stock cooling system.


Edit: The radiator is not just a Mishimoto, its modified to supply the water directly from the endtank. See here:

http://www.fa20club.com/image.php?type=D&id=92

Most likely, but I'm not sure if the Mishimoto rad is playing a bigger part then that. I guess I could just ask where the coolant is T'd off from and see what the response is.

^thats the question I would like to know the answer to. I can't tell from the posted pictures, but where is the coolant coming from and going to from the oil cooler? A diagram would be great.

Thanks

See the edit to my post above, it is not just a Mishimoto rad, its a Mishi rad modified with endtank ports to supply and return the water. This is a really nice cooling option.

Thank you for clarifying, that definitely increases the uniqueness of this kit.

Does the stock snorkel still fit?

With such extreme cooling, what are the daily driving numbers.

AKA:
How long before the oil gets up to temp?
Cold weather performance? (Over cooling)

Or is it always going to settle the oil temps at the coolant temp.

There is an option for thermostatic sandwich plate, but worst case scenario as long as the car thermostat opens, the oil will at least equal water temp.

is this basically just a more universally compatible version of ur robispec?

It's a very similar approach. Same principles, applied a bit differently.

I'm on the phone so if this post has mistakes, blame Autocorrect

Dammit. So much for jus 1 more NA mod lol. @FA20Club.com can we get some temps with this? I know NA we can def hit 210 lik nothin and 230 from 10 min hard driving

I shall be buying this as soon as I get back in town from thanksgiving woo fa20club more new products for the car!

Pretty cool all in one solution really. I like it.

Only for here where I live I have same concern as some with actual overcooling. I see option for the thermostatic plate, however what thermostat goes there at what temp and do you offer those as well? Perhaps I am mis understanding that part...dunno.

this will definitely be what i go with when the time comes for a cooling upgrade.

The new radiator is modified for the inlet and outlet cycle of coolant.

Honestly we did not because in FA20Club opinion that’s going to be geographically biased. Here in Florida its warm year round our winter is sporadic 60s for a few days. So personal testing would not be indicative of what others in cooler regions would see.

Yes

The thermostat plate will function similar to your coolant as it closes to ensure it does not go too low - to which we recommend theTHERMOSTATIC PLATE for those with concerns of overcooling. :thumbup:

I hope somone posts log data on this not just in hot climates.
I just diconnected my oil cooler. Below 40 the oil never got up to temp after 30 minutes.

This kit should help bring the oil temp to operating temperature quicker and keeping it at an acceptable temperature while tracking or simply driving around.

Nice job guys.

Can you sell just your thermostat takeoff plate for those who already have an oil cooler?

You can buy one from Mocal. (I think)

Another thing to lust after! You guys sure do make parts decisions difficult. Great looking product.

..I signed up and paid for your tune, i didn't sign up for email blasts every time you have a sale, release a new product, or get critiqued on the forum. 5 mails in 2 days about the same things is borderline spam.

you know there's a button for that, right? i'm sure it's easier to just complain than to learn how to work your email client...

Yes correct there is a button for that on each email.

Yes it can be sold individually just have to check your current spacers height to make the center fitting is the correct length to go through them both.

I know FA20Club doesn't really use the Vortech supercharger but would you know if this plays nicely with the Vortech intercooler/intake/etc?

yes, it does. we've installed the Perrin cooler on the Vortech and our Sandwich plate and fittings are identical so it will play nice with the Vortech airbox.

On a system like this, with a non thermostat takeoff plate, could one put a valve on the oil cooler line to stop flow to the oil cooler when it's cold and the oil is not getting up to full temps?

This seems like a good way to ensure the oil gets hot enough on cold days, as long as it doesn't cut off the oil to the engine.

What is the projected pricing on this? and will the sandwhich plate have extra 1/8npt ports on it?

You can tap the plate or the spacer for an extra port just like any other not a big deal. The kit is post for sale online on the site for $950.00

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Even with the non-thermostatic plate, coolant will always be warmer during warmup time and cooler when driven hard than oil. So, what's the point with thermostatic plate? :(

Been in the high 30's low 40's F here in the mornings sometimes. I have a Scangauge II for displaying Oil temp, Water temp, Fuel level %, and now Voltage (reading for Shorai battery install and keeping eye on stock voltage levels). My FRS is completely warmed up (205+ F oil and 190 F steady water) by the time I get to work in the mornings which varies from 10-15 minutes with traffic. I keep it below 3k rpm until warmed up to 180+ F oil temp with water temp at operating/steady. Car is stock though I am running 5W30 oil (Redline Synthetic currently). Oil temp will shoot up dramatically in a matter of seconds if I get on it...(5k+ rpm acceleration/steady speed/cornering) from 205 to 220+ F extremely quick, have seen temps to 230+ F after having some fun. Once warmed up the car is normally ~205 F for oil and 190 F for water and 220+ F temps are just an application of the throttle away.

With a heat exchanger system the oil will come up to temp faster and stay cooler due to the water coolant coming up to temp faster and then stabilizing at a lower temp to draw heat from the oil. Heat exchangers are the way to go, but the coolant system is the critical part now and needs to be adequate. Stock is not adequate... this type system is much more than adequate, though I'd piece it together myself and use the heat exchanger advantages to get it of the front opening and down low as possible - zero reason to air cool heat exchangers.