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BMWDavid 04-21-2012 12:07 AM

BRZ First Drive in June Motor Trend
 
Just got my June issue of Motor Trend and they have a write up on the BRZ Limited 6MT.

Good numbers for the numbers group...0-60 in 6.4 seconds. 1/4 mile in 14.9 @ 95.5 mph. This is just about what my 1989 Porsche 911 clocks at and in its time was considered one of the fasters and quickest cars. I still think my 911 is quick and fast and so enjoyable to drive, so I'm looking forward my BRZ.

They really like it. I think we will see the American magazines giving the BRZ more appreciation than the European press.

Sorry I can't scan and post the test.

Subie 04-21-2012 12:54 AM

Is it the same as this? http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ed_first_test/

fistpoint 04-21-2012 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Subie (Post 188364)

No, that is first "Test"...the OP is mentioning first "Drive". In the car mags there is a sequence of reviews by name.

Lighting Red 04-21-2012 08:44 AM

So I have a reason to actually pick up a Motor Trend magazine again? I must be 15 years old again! :lol:

Matador 04-21-2012 08:45 AM

thread without pics this is worthless.

Turbowned 04-21-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lighting Red (Post 188497)
So I have a reason to actually pick up a Motor Trend magazine again? I must be 15 years old again! :lol:

Pretty much. Automobile is the only U.S. car magazine I bother to read these days, apart from the tuner mags like D Sport and Modified.

random 04-21-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 188545)
Pretty much. Automobile is the only U.S. car magazine I bother to read these days, apart from the tuner mags like D Sport and Modified.

I've only read Motor Trend in the past few years because I managed to pick up a free subscription. Otherwise, that magazine is crap.

S2kphile 04-21-2012 01:44 PM

Who reads magazines now-a-days when you have the interneetz!

avholic 04-21-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by random (Post 188632)
I've only read Motor Trend in the past few years because I managed to pick up a free subscription. Otherwise, that magazine is crap.

Las time I read Motor Trend was when I was bored waiting for my car @ Discount Tire :bellyroll:

avholic 04-21-2012 02:39 PM

This? http://blogs.motortrend.com/the-week...ast-22121.html

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/6...223ddde9_o.jpg

MtnDrvr86 04-21-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Subie (Post 188364)

I looked while I was the store and it looked the same to me, maybe slightly different but pretty much the same article.

sysfailur 04-21-2012 07:49 PM

Yeah I just read that while on the john earlier... :P The actual article.

JohnnyR 04-22-2012 01:57 PM

Better than the GT-R huh? Let's see the numbers, all handling, and let's see how it translates on a closed track times. I don't doubt for one minute the car's chassis is over built, and with a proper set of tires alone it'll handle a lot better. But, they gave one of the two vital mechanical aspects to be a real sports car. Perhaps as soon as next year we could call the car a real sports car, as I'm sure that they actually have a FI version of this car ready to roll as is. We know this motor is going into the next WRX, which means there's a built turbo model of this engine already there.

Lytheum 04-22-2012 02:49 PM

I doubt a turbo version is coming soon if ever...if it does itll be $30k plus and still slow since itll move up a price bracket.

JohnnyR 04-22-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lytheum (Post 189133)
I doubt a turbo version is coming soon if ever...if it does itll be $30k plus and still slow since itll move up a price bracket.

We'll agree to disagree. I feel it's coming from Subaru. The only reason they wouldn't is because they wouldn't want it to step into the WRX segment.

Because it went up a price bracket wouldn't make a probably then 2800-2900lb car slower. It pains some, but more power is wanted by a lot of enthusiasts. They know this, they'll do it if they don't want to creep into the WRX segment. The motor is being used in Turbo version for the new WRX, it's probably already sitting somewhere in final form in a test mule. Though the new WRX may become a new beast if they go with a new exclusive platform to save weight and benefit handling more anyways.

60-100hp added to this car via Turbo would put it into a completely new level of respect, one of that being similar to the old Exige/Elise S.

Don't be scared, power is a good thing. It'll make the car significantly faster in a straight line, and more importantly, through a lap on a track.

Sportsguy83 04-22-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyR (Post 189202)

Because it went up a price bracket wouldn't make a probably then 2800-2900lb car slower.

Everyone loves more power of course. But what I think was meant by this comment is that getting the car to say 300 HP but making it 33-36K, will up the car to a new level where it will again be slow for the competition and people will still complain. Heck regardless, people will always complain.

OrbitalEllipses 04-22-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 189210)
Heck regardless, people will always complain.

There ya go.

JohnnyR 04-22-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 189210)
Everyone loves more power of course. But what I think was meant by this comment is that getting the car to say 300 HP but making it 33-36K, will up the car to a new level where it will again be slow for the competition and people will still complain. Heck regardless, people will always complain.

What bracket would it be in then at that price? Nothing game changing, nothing it's not priced up against right now as the BRZ edges too close to 30k as is. More people would be happy then, thus less people would complain. No one loses. People who want more power for obvious reason win, there's still the NA version for those against it gaining more power, and that it's price stays the same there.

It's a win-win.

Sportsguy83 04-22-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyR (Post 189233)
What bracket would it be in then at that price? Nothing game changing, nothing it's not priced up against right now as the BRZ edges too close to 30k as is. More people would be happy then, thus less people would complain. No one loses. People who want more power for obvious reason win, there's still the NA version for those against it gaining more power, and that it's price stays the same there.

It's a win-win.

It's definitely a win-win, I'm not against another version made WRX, STI or whatever they want to call it. Just pointing out what will happen when the upgraded version comes out :thumbup:

Rabble 04-22-2012 06:03 PM

The BRZ Limited is already scratching at the upper limit of the price level. You can get a basic BMW 1-Series in the low 30's, you start asking yourself if an extra $100 a month would be worth it.

tripjammer 04-23-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabble (Post 189239)
The BRZ Limited is already scratching at the upper limit of the price level. You can get a basic BMW 1-Series in the low 30's, you start asking yourself if an extra $100 a month would be worth it.

The basic BMW 1 series is ugly and is about as fast as the BRZ but it is much heavier at 3208 pounds. Definitely not as good handling as the BRZ, but it is a BMW. The 2.0 liter turbo BMW engine is a good engine, but its not in the 1 series coupe yet...will be next year...(2013)

dsgerbc 04-23-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabble (Post 189239)
The BRZ Limited is already scratching at the upper limit of the price level. You can get a basic BMW 1-Series in the low 30's, you start asking yourself if an extra $100 a month would be worth it.

Basic BMW is a car that does not exist. What you get in 'base' BMW is laughable, and to get a decently-optioned car will cost arm and leg.

Tainen 04-23-2012 07:09 PM

Hmm, since the FA20 will be turbocharged for the next year WRX, maybe I'll just swap in a WRX motor when that time comes, if they don't deliver one for the BRZ. If they do, well, then it'll be up to how much it costs to swap it, or to trade it in.

OrbitalEllipses 04-23-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainen (Post 189808)
Hmm, since the FA20 will be turbocharged for the next year WRX, maybe I'll just swap in a WRX motor when that time comes, if they don't deliver one for the BRZ. If they do, well, then it'll be up to how much it costs to swap it, or to trade it in.

Bellhousing might be different, stock turbo and IC location might not fit, headers might drag on the ground, etc..

Lighting Red 04-23-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 189794)
Basic BMW is a car that does not exist. What you get in 'base' BMW is laughable, and to get a decently-optioned car will cost arm and leg.

Truth. To outfit a 1 Series at the approximate feature content of the BRZ would yield a roughly $40,000 baby bimmer; and you still have a pig-ugly car.

DEC1 04-23-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lighting Red (Post 189873)
Truth. To outfit a 1 Series at the approximate feature content of the BRZ would yield a roughly $40,000 baby bimmer; and you still have a pig-ugly car.

PIG UGLY....hahahahahahahahahahahahaaha:lol:


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