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As some of you may or may not know, i've been running Vortech's supercharger for the better part of 6 months. While the added power is nice, sadly it's left me wanting more. I've been seriously considering different turbo kits for about a month, and a name I remembered from my Honda days came to me. Full-Race Motorsports, out of Arizona. I browsed over their site, and seen that they've done plenty with boxers in the past, but nothing yet with the FA20. So I decided to shoot them an email early this morning, and received this response from Jon Guerra:

Hello Shane,


The FR-S kit is in the plans, however it's not something that will be started until the first or second quarter of next year. The FR-S doesn't need much, so the 6258-6758 is plenty of turbo for the car. And single scroll combined with the smaller turbine housings will spool up very quickly. We are also looking to see how much interest there would be for one of out kits in the market, since there's a lot of other kits out there. Expect more news on this early next year though.

I asked questions about turbine housings (single or divided) and Borg Warner Turbos. Mainly their EFR line. Their history with Borg Warner, makes them seem very confident in their products. Being a previous Full-Race Turbo kit owner, (B series Honda) I can't see these guys standing behind anything but top tier products.

I'm not sure how the rest of you guys/gals feel, but i'm really excited to see what Full-Race can churn out for the 86 community! :thumbsup:

Fullrace is top notch! They are local to me and I have ran their manifolds on my Evo. I would be all over a Fullrace kit if something came up.

What power level are the looking at for their kit?

Unforunately, the only information I have is that email they sent me this morning. I imagine they'll have quite a broad spectrum to choose from. They've done some pretty radical things with Hondas. It's been along time since i've followed them. Back when B-Series Hondas were popular. Just before the K-Series became all the rage. Doubling and tripling HP figures seemed like just another day at the office for these guys. I don't know if i'm allowed to post any links without breaking forum rules, but if you google Full Race and check out their site, you'll see some pretty neat products. Some really cool EJ stuff for boxer fans.

i talked to them @ subie fest, they did show a tad of enthusiasm, doubt they'll make something any time soon

:D nuff said

Was saving for a Full Race kit for my S2000 before I decided to sell it for mt FR-S. Would be very interested in what they would develop.

Full-race.... Now youre talking!!

Loved the RB manifold they made!! so beautifull and well made!!

I am also a huge Full-Race fan. I didn't have the money to afford their kit when I had my Integra, but I definitely wanted it.

you should start seeing some pic this month:D

Full-Race has always built top quality stuff. From the email response, I believe it says, "if we were going to build something for the fa20, we would have done it already". Just my thoughts being in the industry and seeing all the great stuff Full-Race made for us Honda guys over the years.

FullRace rocks. They'd be a welcome addition for sure.

FullRace is to Ishigaki beef as FA20club is to cow hooves.

Full Race is doing things as we speak ;)

Damn
Full race is top notch


I love boost!!!!!!

Full race is the best hands down, but I asked Geoff at PRI if they were going to be doing any FRS/BRZ parts and he quickly said "no", though but he would happlily support anyone who does. They're focusing on selling turbos more than kits now from what i got from it.

I beg to differ on them not being involved in the twins

Can you spill any details? You sold your Innovate for a reason is my guess. :D

Haha, you'll see their product soon enough. I have to say though that I backed out of that offer due to time. My car is going another route with another local Phoenix company :burnrubber:

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Full-Race makes my naughty parts excited. I am eagerly looking forward to this project.

Uh oh... I like this a lot. Esp with my favorite s chassis ever built in the background of their shop

^That. And the license plate of the car if no one had noticed :P

I think some of you might be disappointed. If you read that e-mail carefully he makes it pretty clear that he believes the twins don't need gobs of power and they are going to be focusing on a fast, efficient spool.

"The FR-S doesn't need much, so the 6258-6758 is plenty of turbo for the car. And single scroll combined with the smaller turbine housings will spool up very quickly."

Which he is absolutely right
Me with a gt2871r is enought for 400whp


I love boost!!!!!!

Full-Race is pricey for what you get though I concede the quality is high. Their single-scroll kits aren't much less expensive than their twin-scroll kits and I still haven't seen a lot of data on the EFR turbos in Subaru applications. Let's not forget BW fumbled the launch on those turbos so hard too - they were basically vaporware for two years or something IIRC?

you can make more than 400whp with a 2871. i made 387 @ only 15psi of boost with a gtx2867r. the 28's can get you to 450+ nowadays. it's not your grandpa's disco potato :).

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seems like your keeping yours correct ?


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Sometimes unexpected delays come up. But if the product is readily available now and works as advertised, this is no longer an issue.

no... still going to a 3076r, probably just not so soon :). got some other things to take care of first (mainly traction lol).

The BW EFR turbos are no joke. I can assure this setup will be solid.

I never understood whats so special about EFR turbos...


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There's plenty of info on the Full-Race website. They're Borg Warner's "premium" turbo offering that incorporates many modern advancements. Basically a competitor to the Garrett GTX series.

The unique offerings are on the smaller end. Their internal wastegate design flows better than most traditional internal wastegates, and some are available with built in bypass valves, so you can design a more compact turbo system. Not sure how much that applies to our cars or what Full-Race is working on.

I basically want 400whp on east coast 93oct pump gas.. I believe that will be the focus on this kit.. Daily 400whp.. Second thing is they want it to react as quickly as it can compared to a SC. This will also have an option for bigger turbos in your preference..

400whp on 93 is kinda high
U can achieve 400 easy with e85 tho


I love boost!!!!!!

400rwhp out of a gt2871 would be impressive. I was under the impression that those turbos even with a .83 a/r would fall off around 375rwhp.

And the " only at 15psi " is all relative. It might seem like a low number of boost but on any other low compression motor like the ej's, you would need 20+ psi to achieve that power. Turbo's seem impressive on this motor because of the high compression and great flowing heads, but in reality you're not gonna push more out of a gt28 on this motor than any other, a turbo car will only push what max hp the turbo can deliver.

Full Race makes great stuff but "daily 400WHP" on 93 octane isn't realistic on this car. Not unless they are including a built short block with the kit. You'd have to run 16-18 PSI on most turbos to get there. "Daily 300WHP" is more realistic.

I understand the relationship between boost and compression. My point was that the 387hp run was at 15psi, where I can run up to ~24psi, so obviously 400whp is well within reach of the turbo.

I apologize if it seemed like I was insulting your intelligence, was not my intent. I agree that 400rwhp is easily do-able on a gtx28, not on a gt28 however.

No problem... And yes I agree the old disco potato wouldn't be quite as productive as the newer gtx's. I think the most people saw with those back in the day was around 320-350. A 2871 would get it done, you'd just need a bit more boost I believe.