2 1/2 weeks old and getting some nagging issues!
 

So everyone has talked about these and many of them are known, but I wanted to make people aware that even the 2014's are doing this too, so Toyota/Subaru hasn't fixed the issue from the factory.

1. Fuel-pump Chirping mine is intermittent but it started up last night, I have about 1096 miles on it. I ONLY use 93 octane and have only used Shell/Chevron. Is it worth getting this fixed since it doesn't seem to be going away even for those with numerous fuel pump changes?

2. Rear driver side "clack" "harsh click" noise when driving hard, turning hard Only noticed this once or twice, haven't been able to recreate it. I notice a clack/click sound almost as if a penny is falling onto metal in the rear side of my car. I think it's the rear decklid thing. Heard this can be fixed but also inevitably returns. Worth the fix?

3. Idle dip/engine shudder, intermittent about a handful of times I've gotten a strange idle dip/engine shudder either when coming to a stop and it happens around 25mph (whilst coming to a stop) or when completely idle at stop. Idle will dip below 800rpm then back up to about 1100 rpm then to normal idle. The other issue seems to be as stated during stopping, engine will make a strange shudder-noise like if it's stalling? Not sure...doesn't seem to really affect anything.

4. Beginning condensation in tail-lights most noticeable after washing my car, I get MINIMAL condensation right around the top edge of the tail lights going around the rim. Has anyone gotten this successfully fixed?


So far no other issues, I drive my car like a grandma would 95% of the time and have only laid down on it a handful of times.

No mods currently stock.

Any known fixes or TSB's that they will fix and honor without complaint?

Welcome to the club, this has been ongoing for 6+ months.

Basically deal with it lol

Enjoy the car for what it is

Yeah, I was aware of that, but wanted to know if they were worth fixing or not. I would've thought they would've corrected these issues on the 2014's but they didn't

Well, DARN, Trmx2 ..... that's a shame your 2014 is acting up, like some of the 2013s .... :(

But thanks for the information.

My 2013 hasn't suffered from any of those ailments so, I have no advice.

I hope it settles down for you.

humfrz

Thought they were all being affected by this, so I've heard....

It is a shame, brand new car with such annoyances. I've been driving like a grandpa too....so it shouldn't be having any of these issues.

Which means you should drive the piss out of it!

If the price of gas wasn't a huge concern for me right now I would lol.

I have the same issues that you mention on my 2013 except the Rear driver side "clack" "harsh click" noise. I'm sure the TSB should be the same as 2013.

The chrip noise still cannot be fix, i bring my car in today and the service guy told me that there is no fix however, he said its has better insulation. They have TSB for this.

For the tail-light condensation, the dealership will fix it for you and yes they have a TSB on that too.

For the RPM dip, its seem like its hard for them to see what happen because it does not happen all the time. They did see the RPM dip and was told it was normal but they did not feel any shaking/stalling while the RPM dip, so they cannot do anything about it. (Possibly the HPFP cause it.... idk?)

Hope this help. I Will get my car back tomorrow and see "If" everything got fixed.

I have had my car since March 15th and still have none of these problems...

Wrong car to buy if you're worried about MPG's.

:bonk:

MPG's not too bad in this car. Its actually pretty good

Since we are talking about car issues.

Can anyone tell me what might be the problem with my car? Every time I hit a decent size bump I would hear a noise like a plastic sound coming from the speaker or the little air vents next to it. The noise really sound like someone is tapping on a paper that is in the air. I even turned of my radio and can still hear it, the thing is that I don't even blast my speakers at all so I don't really know where it is coming from or what it is at all.

Any advice or comment would be appreciated.

I've actually been getting 28.9 avg currently. My "granddad" driving is really paying off.

Are you lowered? Maybe you're scraping on the pavement.

You might check to see if the right side A piller cover is snapped on proper. I suggest you press in, on the top near the windshield then put pressure on the outside nearest the side window.

humfrz

Yeah, it's kind of aggravating. Does replacing the tail lights fix the condensation? I hope so...

as for the Fuel-pump chirp, this is the first time it has happened and it's been kind of intermittent.

The idle dip has been really intermittent too....not sure what causes it or how to recreate it.

I'm going to go to Toyota with a list of these things and demand they get fixed.

No sir, no mods.

Yeah I was thinking of the same thing. I will do this first thing tomorrow.

I filled up and set the average L/100km trip to get a 5.8L/100km reading back in my garage after 100km. I was careful but overtook a couple of cars and cruised at 117kph for half the trip home. That's 40.5mpgUS and about 39mpg actual consumption.
I think that's impressive.

My GTS is Nov 2013 build and I haven't had any of those issues, although there is a similar noise LHR but only as the car articulates over a drive entrance at an angle.

I have most of the issues, i learned to accept them as it is and that it really doesnt affect performance. My car built date was July 7th, 2013, i have light condensation and it disappear overtime.

I think most of those problems slowly disappear overtime, drive it and turn up your audio, 95% of the shit you hear in the car no longer relevant.

to fix the chirp run non ethanol gas. ive had the chirp ran non ethanol gas and it went away. the chirp will only go away once its completely out of ethanol gas. once it runs off pure gas the chirp poofs.

tried it several times with changing back and forth. hasn't failed me yet

ive had the tsb.done to mine and it didn't fix the problem.

I got a taillight replaced and it hasn't got any condensation in it yet.

As for everything else, I tend drown it out with non-economical driving. ;)

There is your problem right there. With 1000miles on the clock it should be seeing redline often. Thats the whole point.

The only issue of yours that i have had is the rev drop. Its a pretty common known issue but in the grand scheme of things isn't too annoying.

I have all of the named issues except the tailight condensation and my car was made mid- late 2013

#1 - No fixes. There is a TSB to change the high pressure fuel pump for the DI system, but it comes back after it breaks in. It's only a chirping noise and it's normal. Your going to have to learn to deal with it unless they find a permanent fix for it.

#2- Sorry, mine doesn't do it, or I just don't hear it.

#3- I see you are living in Florida, so I would imagine you run with the AC on. Living in Canada, I run with the heather on :). I went a few years back to see the Nascar race in Miami in November. Mostly everyone had sweat shirts and coats on and we were in t-shirts and shorts and dying of heat LOL. Anyways, to get back on point, when you have the AC or the heater set to either windshield positions, it will click on and off the AC pump, and that click is what drops the RPM so low. It never does it when the fan is either off, or if its just simply blowing regular air with no AC or defrost.

#4- Mine also has condensation and there is a recall, so just bring it to the closest dealer and they should fix it right up.

Untrue.

Mine dips to ~600RPMs all the time with absolutely no fan/AC/heat on whatsoever

I have recorded it in every possible setting and it has no affect. If you read up on the forums a lot of people have the issue regardless of AC setting

You need some more miles on your car.. Things do smooth out some over time. I get the idle dip under certain conditions, but it's normal. You are overly aware of these issues being a new car and all.
Everything you mentioned seems to be on par with what others experience.
Taking a list to Toyota and demanding they fix everything may not be the best plan. I would give the car and yourself some time to break in before you go getting yourself all aggravated by visiting the dealer..
Its human nature to focus on everything that seems wrong.. But the more time spent driving it and enjoying all that is good... Will let the other issues either work themselves out or give you time to realize what is normal for this car..

You said in the first post you hear a sound when driving hard and turning hard. Grandpa driving?

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My 2014 started chirping before 500mi, then I stepped on the gas. Hasn't returned, but I'm still under 1000mi, so no guarantees on that as a fix. Mileage fell from 31.5 to 28.5 as well :shrug: I feel like the car doesn't behave well when it's sipping gas.

My car "idles" at ~600rpm all the time -- when it's in gear (A/T). A/C isn't a bad guess as a load source -- maybe the alternator (is it dark when this happens)? Pretty light as a load, but maybe you catch a transient? Like I said, though, when sipping gas, the car doesn't behave nicely. It feels like it's constantly changing it's mind as to how it wants to run. I'm guessing the engineers didn't spend a lot of time working on the helium-footed 0-12mph range :)

I find this car to be fine wrt mileage. I get better mileage than my wife's Elantra, and better mileage than the Saturn it replaced.

I don't have any clacks, but the car REALLY doesn't like turning in the first quarter mile, and it hums/groans/softly-wails when stopped (and in gear). If it ain't one thing it's another. :shrug:

Like mentioned earlier this CAN be fixed, just use E0 gas, there is only one station in my area that has it, but a day or so after filling up the chirping went away completely. Granted the non ethanol gas is roughly 30c a gallon more than normal premium, it is worth it, the chirp is annoying.

The tail lights will retain a little water between the molded halves when you wash it. It dries out.
It's outside the seal though, so not really a problem. The TSB is for water getting inside the enclosure.

The rear deck clang can be fixed easily with some spray lube from the trunk.
Wait. That sounded rude.

hey there!!! ive had the same issues in my 2013 the way the rpm dip was fixed in mine was by buying a drop in filter, got the k&n drop in filter and car runs smoother and no more rpm dip. hope this helps!!:burnrubber:

The tail lights condensation should be fix, i believe they just need to reseal the gasket. I will get my car back in today afternoon, and i will updated the results.
Yes make a list before you head to the dealer so you have all the things that need to be look at.

its hard to find a non-ethanol gas here. I use shell Vpower and im sure it have 5% ethanol.

I have the same problem, the dealer still replace it for me.

I've experienced, or currently experience, all of the above. I love this car to death though so I couldn't care less. It's fuckin purrs now that I've gone catless with my stock exhaust, that's all I listed to now.

I drive my car hard whenever I'm in the mood to do so, once the engine/oil is warmed up, and I'm still averaging 27-28 mpg on the dashboard with mostly city driving.

I have a very early build FR-S (March 2012) and I have had the Tails replaced under warranty for Condensation. The new ones have not had an issue but I read that they still can. When you wash the car, don't spray directly at the seam between the trunk and quarter panels.

About the only thing I have found for the Rev Dip is to let the car come down from high idle after start which takes about a minute. It will still dip but not as low in my observation.

I use the Zen method with the Chirping, with just shy of 19K miles with my cricket companions. I just ignore it and keep on driving.

Be prepared for your next issue, starting will become sluggish or fail to turn over at all for one or two attempts. I turn the key to Accessory so all the lights and gauges are on but before the car turns over, let it sit a heartbeat then start. The fuel system has to prime and giving the pump a sec to get going before making a demand for fuel really helps the car turn over. I had a battery replaced under warranty the first time this happened but the issue persists.

This is a car for the car lover, not everyone as it has plenty of quirks. I expect I will be like Biff Tannen with a car no one else but me can start in 10 years.

I have all the 'issues' OP posted.

I don't consider them 'issues'.

The chirp is just a noise, same with the decklid pop (there's usually so much other noise going on that I'm not even sure I have it, the car is noisy), the idle dip is apparently normal for modern Toyotas (as long as it doesn't stall) and the tailight condensation is also normal for Toyotas. The only advice I have is that the condensation you're seeing is normal, it's mostly just around the edge and like early morning condensate, it doesn't get any worse (no collecting water in mine) that's just kind of the way they are. Been driving mine since January and it hasn't been back to the dealer since the moment I drove it off the lot with all the paperwork signed.

Edit: My chirping went away on it's own completely by 10k miles, I'm on 16k miles now. All 91 octane E10, I don't bother with the 'nice gas' unless it's conveniently located.

I Drive the shit out of mine now :laughabove: I was worried at first about all the minor issues I had but I got more pissed off with all the dealer vists and the no,solutions and bullshit answers from the dealers . So now I drive it like I want and how it ment to be driven and if breaks I will call the tow truck :) and tell them to take it to the dealer and have it repaired with there so called warranty ,

Enjoy the car drive it if breaks fix it if you want upgrade a few things and enjoy it some more .

Best thing I did was get it tunned got rid of most of my troubles ,