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WolfpackS2k 11-18-2013 08:47 AM

Totaled? Yay or Nay
 
I won't hear back from the insurance company and body shop till tomorrow but I'm curious to see whether (at first glance) most people think my car is totaled or not. Other than the obvious (from pics) there is some significant damage to the underside from the brush fire the car started (almost all plastic pieces under the entire car as well as fender linings and some things on the bottom of the engine bay)

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Edit: I suppose to give you all a better idea of the situation I should state that the insured value of the car is $30850. Since this was a track event policy I was able to insure the car's value + all modifications I have had done. Which in this case included the 3M clear bra ($850), Innovate supercharger ($3200), RevWorks UEL Header ($700), and Nameless over and down pipes ($400).

jetfire 11-18-2013 09:47 AM

:( That sucks dude.

KKaWing 11-18-2013 09:58 AM

It looks as though the body work alone would push you near the totaled point. Glad you're ok, good luck with the claim.

Muskokan 11-18-2013 10:00 AM

fire damage, air bags, mulitiple pounts of impact.
i bet my left nut its totaled, and if its not, id go do more damage cause that car will never be the same!

Stierzy34 11-18-2013 10:01 AM

I bet it is totaled, which for you would be better. Better to have a new ride than to fix one that has had that much damage and effect the resale value.

Glad you are okay though, looks like a nasty little fender bender.

MightyMeeple 11-18-2013 10:11 AM

I'm guessing yes...does anyone know the typical criteria for declaring a car totaled? Is it damages costing more than 50% of the car's value?

WolfpackS2k 11-18-2013 10:12 AM

Only the passenger side airbag deployed, but yeah personally I'm hoping that the car is totaled. Doesn't seem like it would ever be the same again.

Here's the crash thread btw, with more info if anyone is interested:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51136

wlwarfield 11-18-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMeeple (Post 1337899)
I'm guessing yes...does anyone know the typical criteria for declaring a car totaled? Is it damages costing more than 50% of the car's value?

Every insurance is different from the next as to how much repairs will cost as a percent of the value. Typically if the repairs are in the ballpark of 70-85% of the current market value they will total it out.

Malt 11-18-2013 10:19 AM

I know you were hoping it was totaled and judging by the pictures I'd say that it most likely is. If there is any damage to the wiring from the fire damage you can chalk it up as junked. Its unfortunate this happened to you but at least you were not hurt and had track day coverage. I guess the next question is are you going to get a new BRZ to replace this one and is the insurance company going to let you get your parts off it?

WolfpackS2k 11-18-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malt (Post 1337913)
I know you were hoping it was totaled and judging by the pictures I'd say that it most likely is. If there is any damage to the wiring from the fire damage you can chalk it up as junked. Its unfortunate this happened to you but at least you were not hurt and had track day coverage. I guess the next question is are you going to get a new BRZ to replace this one and is the insurance company going to let you get your parts off it?

The main wiring harness doesn't appear damaged...BUT it's plastic encasing/insulation was melted through. I would also think that all the brake lines and wheel sensors (and lines) would need to be replaced after being exposed to the fire.

As to the parts, I'm not sure how that will work out. The value I had insured included all aftermarket modifications (parts value, not labor). So if the car is totaled I don't think they would give me those items.

Malt 11-18-2013 10:25 AM

Any damage at all on the wiring and I would demand that they get replaced. Fire does weird things to stuff and it might not look like it was affected, but it almost always is. Well at least you had the foresight to insure the value including those. Here's hoping everything works out in your favor.

2superblus 11-18-2013 11:27 AM

I would say it is totaled based on the exterior damage, the bags going off and the fire damage.

Turboxer 11-18-2013 11:33 AM

surpised insurance isnt throwing a fit about you wrecking it on a track and making a claim.

edit** I saw you purchased a policy for the track as well.

WolfpackS2k 11-18-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboxer (Post 1338044)
surpised insurance isnt throwing a fit about you wrecking it on a track and making a claim.

I took out a track event policy with Lockton Affinity. It has nothing to do with my regular conventional automotive insurance.

ZionsWrath 11-18-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboxer (Post 1338044)
surpised insurance isnt throwing a fit about you wrecking it on a track and making a claim.

edit** I saw you purchased a policy for the track as well.

track day insurance, he is out several K for deductible, not typical insurance.

BlueDubbinTDI 11-18-2013 11:51 AM

My guess is yes. On the exterior I bet something is wrong with every single panel but the, roof whether it be from physical damage or heat damage from the fire. And who knows how off that body lines/frame is from factory spec now too seeing as you careened through lots of uneven terrain at high speed. I bet all 4 corners are damaged in some way or another. It will be close to totaled but ide really press for a new car regardless. It's just too fucked up. Glad you're ok though!

mfbmike 11-18-2013 12:03 PM

Push for it to get totaled. Surely, you don't want to keep it after those damages.

As you say, it will never "feel" the same.

DIM 11-18-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMeeple (Post 1337899)
I'm guessing yes...does anyone know the typical criteria for declaring a car totaled? Is it damages costing more than 50% of the car's value?

My previous car was totaled a few months ago. The way my insurance did it was the repairs exceeding 75% of the car's value.

Dorb 11-18-2013 12:13 PM

Stick a fork in it, It's done!

JOSI 11-18-2013 12:22 PM

So the insurance company will cover an accident at the track? Just like if it were to have happend driving around on regular streets? I think I had seen on here, where a claim had been denied because driver was wearing a helmet.

chrisl 11-18-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOSI (Post 1338133)
So the insurance company will cover an accident at the track? Just like if it were to have happend driving around on regular streets? I think I had seen on here, where a claim had been denied because driver was wearing a helmet.

He had HPDE insurance for that day, separate from his regular insurance.

dsgerbc 11-18-2013 01:35 PM

What does Lockton Affinity do to the cars it was insuring? Can you buy it out for a few grand?
I guess it's totalled in terms of getting it back road-legal, but it might be an okay start for a dedicated track monster.

MikeW 11-19-2013 12:16 AM

toast

1Cor10:23 11-19-2013 12:55 AM

Hope it's totaled - all the best!

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WolfpackS2k 11-19-2013 09:14 AM

I suppose to give you all a better idea of the situation I should state that the insured value of the car is $30850. Since this was a track event policy I was able to insure the car's value + all modifications I have had done. Which in this case included the 3M clear bra ($850), Innovate supercharger ($3200), RevWorks UEL Header ($700), and Nameless over and down pipes ($400).

Porsche 11-20-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1340006)
I suppose to give you all a better idea of the situation I should state that the insured value of the car is $30850. Since this was a track event policy I was able to insure the car's value + all modifications I have had done. Which in this case included the 3M clear bra ($850), Innovate supercharger ($3200), RevWorks UEL Header ($700), and Nameless over and down pipes ($400).

I'd be interested in hearing how that plays out. If the car is judged to be totaled, will they actually PAY you $30,850?

I don't know how extensive the fire damage is, but I certainly would not want that car back. I'm hoping they total it for you.

Let us know, won't you, please?

Good luck. :)

smbstyle 11-20-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche (Post 1342099)
I'd be interested in hearing how that plays out. If the car is judged to be totaled, will they actually PAY you $30,850?

I don't know how extensive the fire damage is, but I certainly would not want that car back. I'm hoping they total it for you.

Let us know, won't you, please?

Good luck. :)

insurance will pay agreed value (30850) minus the deductible on the policy if it's totaled

WolfpackS2k 11-20-2013 12:51 PM

The polls never lie! It's totaled:sigh:

I should be having an indepth conversation with the insurance company today, but yes I should be receiving $30,850 minus the 15% deductible (really wish I'd spent the extra $40 for the 10% deductible! argh).

And then it's car shopping time again:thumbup:

smbstyle 11-20-2013 12:57 PM

Keep us posted on the claims process with them, as I always buy their policy, and am curious on how they are to deal with when there's an incident.

Scenic Driver 11-20-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1342588)
The polls never lie! It's totaled:sigh:

I should be having an indepth conversation with the insurance company today, but yes I should be receiving $30,850 minus the 15% deductible (really wish I'd spent the extra $40 for the 10% deductible! argh).

And then it's car shopping time again:thumbup:

Congrats.

Funny at VIR I was talking to Chris about the deductables, in the past I chose 15% but after seeing how little the difference was I started taking 10%.

WolfpackS2k 11-20-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle (Post 1342604)
Keep us posted on the claims process with them, as I always buy their policy, and am curious on how they are to deal with when there's an incident.

Will do

thill 11-20-2013 03:37 PM

That sucks, but glad you are okay and that insurance is taking care of it.

Anthony7515 11-20-2013 03:44 PM

damm bro hope ya ok

Anthony7515 11-20-2013 03:54 PM

any body have a stock brz rim for sale

Rampage 11-20-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1342588)
And then it's car shopping time again:thumbup:


For another FR-S/BRZ or are you moving on?

t.chk 11-20-2013 04:46 PM

Due to the amount of damage, you better just have them total it. I would buy the car back if they let it go for cheap...some components might be salvageable (turbo, air box, exaust, rims (for snow tires), and the like).

But yea, she is dead. :(

WolfpackS2k 11-20-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t.chk (Post 1343150)
Due to the amount of damage, you better just have them total it. I would buy the car back if they let it go for cheap...some components might be salvageable (turbo, air box, exaust, rims (for snow tires), and the like).

But yea, she is dead. :(

Oh somebody could def jump on this. As far as the power train goes, only the muffler section if the exhaust suffered any damage. Rest is perfect. And the supercharger is only one month old!!!

FR-FKN S! 11-20-2013 05:27 PM

still looks fine 2 me

SirBrass 11-20-2013 05:52 PM

Post toasty


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