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redcelica 11-11-2013 06:12 PM

Who's this? Wrecked BRZ @ VIR
 
Poor guy :( NC plates...anyone know?

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ZionsWrath 11-11-2013 06:13 PM

RIP

Munki 11-11-2013 06:14 PM

:( sad to see a wrecked beauty. Hope the driver is ok

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stugray 11-11-2013 06:20 PM

looks like a little attempt at violating heisenburg's uncertainty principle...

Tire barrier contact behind the RF followed by serious barrier contact. Went a little wide ?
Funny thinking it already looks like a racecar but still has airbags :-)

Rampage 11-11-2013 06:30 PM

WolfpackS2k has a white BRZ and was planning on being a VIR today. Hopefully, it is not his and he is OK.

bestwheelbase 11-11-2013 06:51 PM

Bummer about the damage. Hope everyone is okay.

z3ro 11-11-2013 06:53 PM

i think that is his... those numbers on the side look super familiar.

At minimum that car is on this forum

Noob4Life 11-11-2013 06:57 PM

So sad I hope his insurance is forgiving...

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wrxgoose 11-11-2013 07:10 PM

@WolfpackS2k, this isn't you, is it?

redcelica 11-11-2013 08:36 PM

God, I hope not! :( Patrick is a good guy.

juliog 11-11-2013 09:03 PM

Well, that sucks. I assume that someone was riding shotgun, if the passenger airbag was deployed?

Nothing that can't be fixed provided the time and money...

ZionsWrath 11-11-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliog (Post 1325687)
Well, that sucks. I assume that that someone was riding shotgun, if the passenger airbag was deployed?

Nothing that can't be fixed provided the time and money...

Your avatar

This thread

hmmm

juliog 11-11-2013 09:06 PM

I wrecked mine at another track earlier this year, getting it back soon ^^. I unlocked an achievement for flipping a car with no airbags deployed :)

Evil Jesus 11-11-2013 11:08 PM

Boy that's horrible. I hope everyone is healthy and repairs/replacement can happen without hurting the driver too badly financially.

whataboutbob 11-11-2013 11:10 PM

As much as I'd love to track my car, this is why I don't. Hope driver is ok and car gets fixed ASAP.

Byebye 11-11-2013 11:16 PM

Stock wheel/tire setup? Just curious...

SigmaHyperion 11-11-2013 11:19 PM

[redacted] BRZ with [redacted] plates purchased from [redacted] @ VIR today... every sign points to @WolfpackS2k unfortunately

[Edited to remove potentially identifying information]

mfbmike 11-11-2013 11:20 PM

:(

wrxgoose 11-11-2013 11:25 PM

damn. i really hope he's alright

Burrcold 11-11-2013 11:40 PM

So what happens with insurance if you crash your car at a track event? Is it not covered?

Hope the driver is okay!

Noob4Life 11-11-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1325987)
So what happens with insurance if you crash your car at a track event? Is it not covered?

Hope the driver is okay!

Alot of insurance company's have been refusing to pay for damages caused at the track from what I've heard. So unless your track offers its own insurance all your repairs come out of pocket.

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Aznsky 11-11-2013 11:43 PM

Honestly if it were him he probably wouldn't want his plates being shown on the internet.

I'd recommend removing the pic till you get an ok from the owner of the car (whoever they may be).

Coming from somebody that's crashed at the track before.

redcelica 11-11-2013 11:52 PM

removed...good call

Aznsky 11-11-2013 11:55 PM

^ props :)

Burrcold 11-12-2013 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life (Post 1325991)
Alot of insurance company's have been refusing to pay for damages caused at the track from what I've heard. So unless your track offers its own insurance all your repairs come out of pocket.

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That's shitty! This is precisely what's holding me back from doing any track/auto-x events.

Rampage 11-12-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life (Post 1325991)
Alot of insurance company's have been refusing to pay for damages caused at the track from what I've heard. So unless your track offers its own insurance all your repairs come out of pocket.

You can also purchase track day insurance from a number of companies. Unfortunately, it is fairly expensive and most HPDE drivers do not do it.

Dave-ROR 11-12-2013 12:18 AM

Missed the pic. Sucks though :(

This is why I built a dedicated track car. Dgaf about it. Gaf about the brz

whataboutbob 11-12-2013 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1326036)
That's shitty! This is precisely what's holding me back from doing any track/auto-x events.

Auto-X is fairly low risk compared to Track if the course is setup correctly. That said, I've seen people destroy cars on an Auto-X course trying to be heroes and save a slide/spin. Luckily, the cones are fairly forgiving. :)

King Tut 11-12-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 1326049)
This is why I built a dedicated track car. Dgaf about it. Gaf about the brz

This. I know I would want to push my BRZ as much as I push my SpecE30 at the track which is why I haven't taken it there.

bestwheelbase 11-12-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 1326049)
This is why I built a dedicated track car. Dgaf about it. Gaf about the brz

Exactly.

For those who missed the photo, it looked like they parked the passenger side up against a wall. Definitely something the occupants could walk away from.

Dave-ROR 11-12-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 1326884)
Exactly.

For those who missed the photo, it looked like they parked the passenger side up against a wall. Definitely something the occupants could walk away from.

Uphill esses I assume?

That's where 90% of the VIR incidents occur :( Friend lost an integra there last month.

Rampage 11-12-2013 05:55 PM

The picture appeared to be taken after the car was removed from the track. Extensive damage on the passenger side from the front wheel back. The rear bumper was torn off. It looked like all the airbags deployed. No damage to roof or glass so it does not appear that there was a rollover.

Hopefully, the driver and passenger are OK. He is probably too shocked and bummed out to post. I can't blame him.

WolfpackS2k 11-13-2013 01:57 PM

Hey fellas, it was me:cry:. I crashed my BRZ at South Bend (turn 10). Lost the rear going down the hill and slowly spun counterclockwise around 70 mph, left the track, slid a few hundred feet and then hit the tire wall with the passenger side/rear hard enough to lift the car onto two wheels before it spun around. I felt like an idiot b/c if I had over-corrected and spun the other way there's nothing to hit. I had an instructor onboard at the time, and am happy to say neither of us sustained any injury.

I am happy to say that I DID buy a track event policy with Lockton Affinity for $30k of coverage, so I should be covered just fine. Most of the damage was from the impact with the tire wall, however after the impact my brakes and exhaust set the grass on fire and burned off all the plastic under the front half of the car, and damaged the paint on both front fenders as well. Just a question now of whether or not the car is totaled really. I destroyed the:

-rear bumper cover
-rear trunk lid
-rear unit body trunk area is pushed in
-rear quarter panel, C&A pillar piece
-passenger door
-right side view mirror
-fire damage to both front fenders
-all plastic panels under the car and lower section of engine bay destroyed by fire
-passenger side curtain airbag deployed
-minor interior smoke damage

Car drives fine and I don't think there's any suspension damage but the alignment is way off and there's a slight vibration. I can't post pics from work but will later. And out of curiosity Brett, where did you get the pic you originally posted from?

Oh and you'll be interested/happy to know that I was running a GoPro bumper cam during this session, so the incident is caught on film.

In hindsight it was f*cking stupid to run the Michelin Primacy tires for this event.:mad0260:

Foobar 11-13-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1329200)
I am happy to say that I DID buy a track event policy with Lockton Affinity for $30k of coverage, so I should be covered just fine.

Good on you and I'm glad nobody was hurt. I could never understand how some folks are willing to risk their car going on a track without any track insurance.

Kimsey47 11-13-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1329200)
Hey fellas, it was me:cry:.

Hey bro, glad to hear you're ok and had coverage! You live you learn right? Good luck on working out the particulars with the claim, but most of all just glad to hear the car did its job and kept you and the instructor safe!

Sportsguy83 11-13-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1329200)
Hey fellas, it was me:cry:.

Very happy to hear you are OK, and secondly that you are smart and bought insurance for it. :clap::clap: I'm pretty sure it is totaled. Hope you get another 86!

Kimsey47 11-13-2013 04:08 PM

I'm not sure if it is as difficult to find BRZ's now as it could have been earlier but my local dealer appear to have 4 in stock: http://www.kellysubaru.com/all-inven...ions=compliant

bestwheelbase 11-13-2013 04:10 PM

Glad nobody was hurt, and glad you bought coverage. Ten percent deductible and they cover the rest, right?

Porsche 11-13-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1329200)
Hey fellas, it was me:cry:. I crashed my BRZ at South Bend (turn 10). Lost the rear going down the hill and slowly spun counterclockwise around 70 mph, left the track...


Sorry to hear of your mishap, and glad to hear you and your instructor are uninjured.

See this video, especially at 2:45 onward where Randy Pobst talks about Turn 10. Randy obviously thinks the exit of T10 is troublesome. Randy suggests a late apex for this one. One MUST have the turn completed AND THE STEERING STRAIGHT as one heads down the hill exiting T10. It sounds as though you fell prey to the very thing Randy warns of, here. I guess the chassis really unloads at the exit as the road drops out from beneath you, heading downhill, and the car loses grip dramatically, according to Randy. Get the steering STRAIGHT by your trackout point. Otherwise, with any lefthand steering lock dialed in, the car will start rotating counterclockwise. You won't like it. At the very least you will likely have what I call a "squirt-worthy moment"; that would be a squirt in the Depends! :)





[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRgzmtdtXnk"]Randy Pobst VIR Track Daze - YouTube[/ame]





I assume you'll be tackling this again. :)


1) Late apex

2) Hands straight at trackout point


Again, I’m glad you're safe. :thumbsup:


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WolfpackS2k 11-13-2013 05:24 PM

I appreciate that video and you are 100% correct.

As far as tackling it again...I actually did that very day! I was able to get the car cleaned up enough mechanically for tech to give me the "okay" to go back on track, which I did for 3 more laps...and then pulled over b/c my exhaust decided to disconnect between the header and overpipe (though at the time we just knew it was making a LOT of noise so pulled over off track to be careful and not ruin another session for everyone else).

And I was careful about that turn! I also got a lot of compliments and thumbs up later from people for being so persistent.:thumbup:
@bestwheelbase 10% was an option but I went with 15% (dammit!).


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