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CodyFRS 10-28-2013 06:24 PM

AT swap to MT
 
So, I made the mistake of purchasing an AT FRS. At the time it seemed like a good decision but now I am regretting it. I am missing out on a lot of aspects of driving this car the way it was made to drive because I am held back by auto. So I have been looking into purchasing a 6speed FRS Manual Transmission Swap. The kit comes with basically everything I would need material wise, but I wasn't sure how much this is going to cost me to have it done. I would be having a shop do all the labor considering I don't know how to work on transmissions. How much would I be expecting to pay to have my AT swapped to MT. (Even though I already paid $1000 extra for AT)..........

Thanks

the.big.kahoona 10-28-2013 06:28 PM

There's only 1 answer to your question: no, don't do it.

Sell it, take the hit and buy a new one. You'll end up savin the money on resale value alone by a mile

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boredom.is.me 10-28-2013 06:34 PM

What he said.

zc06_kisstherain 10-28-2013 06:40 PM

cant agree more

abutterman 10-28-2013 07:24 PM

yea it would probably come out to the same price, if not cheaper to just trade the car in for a new 2014 MT and it'll all be warrantied and whatnot

Miniata 10-28-2013 07:55 PM

Definitely cheaper to sell yours and buy one with a MT.

finch1750 10-28-2013 08:05 PM

Just out of curiosity what is the auto holding you back from doing? Maybe a mod or two would be cheaper/easier to get the desired result

wlwarfield 10-28-2013 08:07 PM

Another vote to just trade it in or sell it to Carmax and buy a new MT frs or brz.

husker741 10-28-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1298660)
What he said.

What he said.

chiefshayan 10-28-2013 08:19 PM

I went through the same thing with my AT, but when I'm in traffic for 2 hours that feeling quickly goes away..

husker741 10-28-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 1298906)
what everyone else already said.

What he said.

shiro 10-28-2013 08:44 PM

Absolutely what he...possibly she?...said!

Plus, if you have one of the original builds you might be more happy with the next build (if there has been any changes) as Toyota continues to trouble shoot the ECU and Active Valve Timing Control for the cams. Best of luck.

Sonolin 10-28-2013 08:51 PM

I ended up trading my auto in at the dealership and it didn't hurt too much (the double Cali sales tax hurt the most...).

I looked at it this way: I made a mistake, and wasn't happy with the auto. Would it be worth the extra $$$ on my loan for a manual?

In the end yes I'd say I'm much happier with the car now :). I have to say though make sure its what you want before sealing the deal! The auto is *very* good compared to other autos - performance wise its very similar to the manual except it most likely shifts faster than you & no launch. In the twisties it really was very fun but the manual is obviously more fun to me.

driftartist 10-28-2013 08:51 PM

keep the automatic and regret the decision....its the most valuable lesson to have learned...and it will save you the max amount of money. next car you buy you will make better choices *not trolling*

boredom.is.me 10-28-2013 08:53 PM

but...can't...what...enjoy

ramiram1984 10-28-2013 09:44 PM

Choices have consequences

trigger happy 10-28-2013 10:04 PM

Sell urs, trade it. Buy one thats already MT

Captain Insano 10-28-2013 10:07 PM

Until somebody actually does this swap and posts pros/cons everybody is going to say trade it in. Inevitably swaps will start to happen and there will be options. Boils down to how long do you want (or not want) to wait and how long do you plan to own this car?

Kimsey47 10-28-2013 10:20 PM

What they said... Swaps are only cost effective for guys that have the time and money to race. Even then they'd probably just have bought the manny tranny to beganny.

naikaidriver 10-30-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Insano (Post 1299093)
Until somebody actually does this swap and posts pros/cons everybody is going to say trade it in. Inevitably swaps will start to happen and there will be options. Boils down to how long do you want (or not want) to wait and how long do you plan to own this car?



I've changed the following cars from auto to manual.


1968 Camaro SS 327 TH350 to M-22 4spd.
1981 Mustang 351C (swapped) from C4 to T-5.


My advice...


DON'T DO IT! Too expensive, too much work, too much hassle and never seem to work as well as a car that came equipped with one stock. (They just don't "feel right".


Regards,
Scott

forzajuve 10-30-2013 03:47 PM

Sorry to be a buzz-kill to your potential transmission swap but it is totally not worth it. Honestly though, I don't see how AT is that bad. I drive my girlfriend's Lexus is250 which is an AT and it is super fun. It by no means handles like an 86 but I can imagine the 86 would be fun as an AT too. Either way between AT or MT you're still changing gears, you can still rev the piss out of the engine and drive away happily.

If you still can't settle with the AT, sell the car and buy a MT.

h4nh 10-30-2013 05:21 PM

cheaper to trade in for a manual.

ramiram1984 10-30-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver (Post 1303270)
I've changed the following cars from auto to manual.


1968 Camaro SS 327 TH350 to M-22 4spd.
1981 Mustang 351C (swapped) from C4 to T-5.


My advice...


DON'T DO IT! Too expensive, too much work, too much hassle and never seem to work as well as a car that came equipped with one stock. (They just don't "feel right".


Regards,
Scott

In the process of swapping an old ford trans (FMX) (1964 ford galaxie 2door ht) for a keisler engineering SS700 trans ;) but the kit came complete!

Captain Insano 10-30-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver (Post 1303270)
I've changed the following cars from auto to manual.


1968 Camaro SS 327 TH350 to M-22 4spd.
1981 Mustang 351C (swapped) from C4 to T-5.


My advice...


DON'T DO IT! Too expensive, too much work, too much hassle and never seem to work as well as a car that came equipped with one stock. (They just don't "feel right".


Regards,
Scott

at the point people start doing engine swaps for this car, you are already changing the ecu the trans as well for many of the combos. I wouldn't assume anything at this point. Give a year or two more when lots of these cars start to get very heavily modified.

JDMenrique 10-30-2013 11:39 PM

I wouldnt do it. Just enjoy your car and ignore the external factors.


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