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Dezoris 10-28-2013 04:14 AM

Trailer | Ohlins Install | Interviews With Essex & Ohlins
 
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Ohlins Road and Track Install and Review
Interviews with Essex and Ohlins


Coming Soon
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94TVlU7U6qQ"]Coming Soon | Ohlins and Essex Interviews | C7 Stingray | BRZ FRS Suspension - YouTube[/ame]

We cover install setup and alignment of the Ohlins Road and Track kit.
Then drive 800 miles to Ohlins to tour and interview the staff.

Our next stop was to Essex Performance USA distributor for AP Racing brakes where we interview Jeff Ritter. Talk about brake kits and their upcoming brake setup for the C7 Stingray.

Tansey86 10-30-2013 02:20 PM

I Enjoi this.

CSG David 10-30-2013 02:23 PM

I love Ohlins' attention to detail. The enginerd in me has been satisfied by that build quality.

Dezoris 10-30-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 1303120)
I love Ohlins' attention to detail. The enginerd in me has been satisfied by that build quality.

We saw their F1 dampers and Lemans car dampers. It's beyond reasonable the costs associated with them.

d1ck 10-30-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1303177)
We saw their F1 dampers and Lemans car dampers. It's beyond reasonable the costs associated with them.

What is it that makes a damper so expensive? Dampers are generally pretty simple devices, so would the additional cost be due to R&D mainly?

RRnold 10-30-2013 03:07 PM

Excellent suspension. :bow:

CSG David 10-30-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by d1ck (Post 1303212)
What is it that makes a damper so expensive? Dampers are generally pretty simple devices, so would the additional cost be due to R&D mainly?

Suspension is a black art. There are different schools of thought on how to develop an excellent suspension kit. The damper body is all the same and the function is the same, however, it's all about how you get there and how precise and refined you want to be. That's where it gets expensive. The more refined and higher end the suspension, the better it maintains that tire contact with the road without disrupting the balance of the vehicle.

CSG David 10-30-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1303177)
We saw their F1 dampers and Lemans car dampers. It's beyond reasonable the costs associated with them.

I like the Ohlins TTX stuff...2-way, 3-way, 4-way. :drool:

Hanakuso 10-30-2013 03:29 PM

Ohlins and Essex sounds like a match made in heaven

Dezoris 10-30-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 1303244)
I like the Ohlins TTX stuff...2-way, 3-way, 4-way. :drool:

Yeah they are serious and seriously expensive, total art to having them valved and setup properly.

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Originally Posted by d1ck (Post 1303212)
What is it that makes a damper so expensive? Dampers are generally pretty simple devices, so would the additional cost be due to R&D mainly?

In the case of the F1 shock pictured below, they are designed from the ground up. So the F1 dampers for Toyota cost the team 5 Million USD for the year for both cars, that included design, valving and rebuilds after every practice and race. They only last one session before having to be re-bulit.

The shock weighted almost the same as my Galaxy Note 2, and Ohlins said the teams would remove the adjustment knobs and have them build the fixed valving to save even more weight.

Racecomp Engineering 10-30-2013 04:17 PM

Excellent video!

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Originally Posted by d1ck (Post 1303212)
What is it that makes a damper so expensive? Dampers are generally pretty simple devices, so would the additional cost be due to R&D mainly?

Very high tolerances and build quality, quality of materials, R&D, support, etc.
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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 1303242)
Suspension is a black art.

Nope! The damper engineers I talk to hate hearing that. It's NOT a black art, it's just a lot of physics and math. To some, well...that is a black art but it really isn't magic. Complicated as hell and painfully intricate, but not magic.

- Andy

CSG David 10-30-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 1303411)
Excellent video!



Very high tolerances and build quality, quality of materials, R&D, support, etc.


Nope! The damper engineers I talk to hate hearing that. It's NOT a black art, it's just a lot of physics and math. To some, well...that is a black art but it really isn't magic. Complicated as hell and painfully intricate, but not magic.

- Andy

It's magic! :D

On a serious note, there is definitely serious math and physics involved, but also takes a creative mind to really solve those complex problems as well. I don't think my brain can work out the functions involved with such design. I'll stick to being a standard mechanical engineer for now... :slap:

TouchMyHonda 11-01-2013 01:40 AM

Excited

xsuperbeex 11-01-2013 05:08 AM

I want the whole vid now! :mad0259:

emirdtm 11-01-2013 10:39 AM

Yes hurry yo ass up j/k :) and more of Mark's unique humor

Dezoris 11-01-2013 02:27 PM

It takes time have to finish my video about installing a toilet chair in the FRS first.

CSG Mike 11-01-2013 02:52 PM

David is a mechanical engineer by trade; I try to answer the suspension questions because if he posts, he'll just go crazy enginerd on us and lose us all... including me.

Corner3garage 11-01-2013 05:25 PM

We have never had any issues with ohlins!

Their quality is 2nd to none!

-Michael

CSG David 11-01-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Corner3garage (Post 1307936)
We have never had any issues with ohlins!

Their quality is 2nd to none!

-Mike

"Michael" :lol:

Corner3garage 11-01-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 1307939)
"Michael" :lol:

FORGOT THIS WASN'T THE370Z.COM!

LOL

merlin2111 12-12-2013 11:10 PM

Update! I need to have more excuses to show the fiance why I need Ohlins R+T. I will have to go with the old V3's if I have to but I like to move up and I had those on the RSX in college but that was single man money. Its not so easy anymore.

ZDan 12-13-2013 10:40 AM

Why GOOD consistent dampers cost a lot: Machining and assembly tolerances. Damping is *very* sensitive to very small changes in machining, fitment, shimstack, etc. etc. etc. It is VERY cheap to make a damper if you don't care what the damping curve is from part to part. It is VERY expensive to go to the required lengths to ensure that you have a *consistent* good damping curve.

Racecomp Engineering 12-13-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by merlin2111 (Post 1387019)
Update! I need to have more excuses to show the fiance why I need Ohlins R+T. I will have to go with the old V3's if I have to but I like to move up and I had those on the RSX in college but that was single man money. Its not so easy anymore.

If you want to call and hear Myles gush about them for half an hour, go for it. :lol: Just be sure to tell him to stop before he starts crying.

- Andy

Race_Parts04 12-15-2013 01:06 AM

Good Stuff...Thanks for Sharing!

Dustin 12-21-2013 09:36 PM

Looking forward to the full video!! :thumbsup:

Dezoris 12-24-2013 05:13 AM

The Ohlins video releases today just in time to bore you before xmas.

Dustin 12-24-2013 09:35 AM

:party0030:

RehabJeff86 12-24-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1409100)
The Ohlins video releases today just in time to bore you before xmas.

Where is the video?

utekineir 12-24-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RehabJeff86 (Post 1409489)
Where is the video?

The review is on the nameless schedule.

I mean it's a review with a teaser... How many months does it take for a review of a car part?

Dezoris 12-24-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by utekineir (Post 1409515)
The review is on the nameless schedule.

I mean it's a review with a teaser... How many months does it take for a review of a car part?

Footage: 20 hours
Editing: 16 hours
Travel: 22 hours
Graphics: 3 hours
Writing: 2 hours

Total Time: 63 hours
Spare Time for this: -63 hours

BeRZ 12-24-2013 03:50 PM

Can't wait for the video on these. Stuck between Ohlins and AST's for my coilovers...

Dezoris 12-24-2013 04:01 PM

Install and video is complete:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54235


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