Link to FR-S standard and premium HU manual
 

Here are quick start guides and manuals for the standard and premium units; Bespoke is not included here.

http://www.scion.com/manuals/nav_audio/#section=audio

Specs are at the back. Wattage output for standard: 4x40; for premium: 4X50.

Those numbers are 'Max' output. You'd be lucky to see 15 watts from either continuously. But that's still not bad compared to some OEM HU's. I just hope there's a dash kit out quickly.

The FR-S also has a small, separate 2 ch amp that I believe powers the largest door speakers (like on the 2011+ tC). Not sure of the output though...

They list the detailed specs for the premium unit only, total continuous wattage 64 watts, not too bad on the S/N and THD either although hardly audiophile level:

The other thing to keep in mind is the diminutive interior space in the FR-S - that 16 watts will go a lot farther there than in a WRX for example.

I just looked at the manual for the premium unit and it lists 16 watts per channel, as you said. I meant, although I realize I didn't say it clearly, 15 watts per channel. So I wasn't far off.

You're right about the interior volume having a big effect, but I'll still be mounting my amps. They don't weight much more then the spare and jack, and go in the same location, is how I'm justifying the weight to myself...

Does anyone not see that the HU in that manual is not the bespoke unit? The bespoke HU may have different specs than the older unit in that manual.

I don't get pioneer, what's the point of having such a big touch screen and only have it display what track you're playing, was it that hard to add a gps to it?

Mr. T, please don't take this as direct at you in particular.

What the hell is so important about this god damn bespoke unit. It's a fucking stereo, IN A CAR. Why does everyone need to update their status on facebook while their driving. What are they gonna say, 'oh now I'm sitting at a red light', 'Hey now I'm shifting to third', 'Guess what everyone, I just turned on my turn signal' Seriously can someone explain why having this bespoke HU is so important that it comes up in every third thread? Personally I would hate having my drive interrupter by other peoples drivel about taking a crap or being upset at their spouse. One of the best things about driving is getting away from that shit.

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... Bespoke has many functions other than twitter and facebook. Did you at least read up on what Zypr does? It hooks the car up with the internet through your phone. It can use many apps, and true it has twitter and Facebook, but that't far from the main point. Zypr are allowing programmer to combine multiple apps together for new functionality, like Facebook with GPS to find out where you're suppose to meet up with your friends, instead of stopping the car, taking out your phone, logging onto Facebook, find the location, and input it into your GPS. It also adds things like finding a restaurant and sending the location to your friends.

I definitely think it has potential, and would consider it if it did self-contained NAV. I don't want cloud based NAV.

Yeah, that's the main problem I have with bespoke too. It's too reliant on your phone for the price they are asking for. If you're traveling on some remote highway with no cellphone reception you're basically screwed, I mean that's basically what people get GPS for, to not get lost. I'm gonna stick with the crappy original head unit until they find some way to fix that. Other than that, Zypr sounds pretty good.

For Canadians it's academic anyway, the Bespoke unit not coming here (this year at least). HUs are not dealer-installed in Canada so they have to be pre-specified when ordering, and the only option is for the non_bespoke LCD unit.

I played with the standard one that we are getting in the US, and as I said somewhere else, it's like my first girlfriend, she wasn't the prettiest one on the block but she did everything I asked her to do.

Well, in this case, except telling me where to go, although if I remember correctly, she eventually even did that!

:bellyroll: LOTD!

For me the $270 I spent to upgrade I consider to be 75% an interior design/trim upgrade, the car just looks so much better without that stock unit. Going back to your analogy, for the stock HU: it's as if your first girlfriend had a horrific case of acne...

Thanks for the write up. I still don't get why there's so much fuss though. Yes it would be useful, but it seems like this could be a breaking point for people. It just seems like the latest and greatest that everyone wants. For the money I'd rather just ask for directions when I get the invite, if I don't already know the way.

Then again, I have a pay as you go phone without a data plan.

:bellyroll: LOTD Tie!

?? - I was asked if I wanted base or premium audio (neither being bespoke) and I want that ugly base stereo with all the buttons. Are you saying it's going to be that middle ground one with the single knob on the left and flat lcd for most of the right side?

I think the kit radio is the standard double din size. I do not think a dash kit will be required in these cars...unless you want to put an ipad in your dash lol

Scion's head units are double din height, but slightly wider. You'll need filler panels on either side with an aftermarket head unit.

This makes me sad in my face

http://www.fr-sforum.com/forums/atta...s_interior.jpg

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/413...R-S-stereo.jpg

Just answering my own question since Canada build-FRS site is now up. Base audio is the base audio, and for 550 you get a midrange unit that's not bespoke but half touchscreen (1 knob for power/volume). Same wattage more or less.

Thanks for the info. I knew Subaru used oversized faces on their US stereos and I was trying to track down if Scion was any different.

Does the BeSpoke system work with Android phones? I understand a lot of people have iPhone but it would be a damn shame for them to loose the upgrade to all of the Android users as well as all of the people who want GPS functionality.... I am currently looking into units which I can run Google Maps from my Galaxy Nexus from... its FREE on my phone (navigation) and excellent- I would hate to buy anything else...

Furthermore, it would be a nightmare to have my facebook and other services constantly updating while im trying to enjoy driving...what a nightmare...

lol. Android connectivity? any reccomendations for aftermarket double din's which can do this and look clean and simple?