I have found the answer to all of the complaints!
 

I have found the answer to all the complaints about the BRZ and FR-S. This car ticks all the boxes:

Needs more power/forced induction. This car I found has a supercharged engine that makes 333hp/325tq officially, and has shown to actually make more.

Cricket noises from HPFP. No Crickets under this hood.

Lacks AWD. It has one of the most advanced AWD systems you can buy with a nice 40/60 split that allows for power-oversteer.

Crude suspension with bad camber curves. It has a multi-link suspension both front and rear for the best camber retention.

Interior quality is lacking. It has one of the best interiors short of a hyper-luxury car.

Rear seats have no leg room. It has enough leg room for an adult in the rear with adequate headroom.

Too much cabin noise. It is very quiet, allowing for moderate conversation at highway speeds.

Poor quality head unit/Nav. It has a Nav and Multi media unit that is responsive, intuitive, and even has Google Earth overlays and it's own Data Connection with Wi-Fi hotspot.

This car also maintians the sleek coupe look with clean lines, long hood, and short trunklid that the twins have. The interior features sporty bolstered seats like the twins, and they're even finished in Leather/Alcantara like the BRZ Limited. Bi-Xenon HIDs, LED DRLS and tail-lights, and other features found the BRZ Limited are included as well.

AND, for those bemoaning the cancelation of the GT85 convertible, this car has a drop-top version as well!

This car has everything the nay-sayers want:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...e-6_600x0w.jpg

I give you, the Audi S5. If someone has a list of complaints about the twins, they only need to be pointed here. This "fixed" BRZ will only cost them twice as much and an additional 1200lbs, but it will have every issue covered.

The only "question" above I see as valid to my own experience is power (I came from an s2000). Which I resolved quite quickly on my own vehicle. So what your telling me is that this four door wonder is our cars superior competitor? I think you sir bought the wrong car. Lol

Four door???????

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

Reading Comprehension > You

You're welcome to try again.

so, basically you want to swing your **** around and let everyone know about the s5 you just bought.

congratulations,

very happy for you

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I love the S5 and RS5. If they dropped 1500 lbs. off it and made it RWD, it would be very close to my ideal car at the moment.

Congrats on the car btw!

..from someone with two cars. Might want to check your privledge before complaining about someone else's.

First World Problems indeed...

My post was about the impracticality of meeting everyone's demands about the twins. I suggest you re-examine why you read into it what you did and why you felt the need to reply as you did.

I owned an A4, 2.8 quattro for several years...loved that car for what it was. But if I recall, the quattro splits 60/40 front to rear. Has this changed?!

actually theres 4 cars parked here and a bike, none of which will ever have a thread dedicated to them,

my post was about the blah blah is awesome blah blah blah starting at 2x cost, which i just so happen to own and approve of, how does my **** smell you peasant bastards.

S(whatever model) audis are great cars. Have fun.

lol, regardless of him owning both cars. The OP makes a compelling case, even if superficially (since I don't know anything about the S5)

What is funny, on my drive home from picking up my BRZ an S5 was the first car to try and goad me into a race. an hour after that a civic si with mods.

You have issues.

It was a tongue-in-cheek post. You chose to read it as bragging rather than seeing it for the poke at those who harp on the same things about the twins.

not denying that i'm a shitty person with reading comprehension issues and first world problems

it was a fun poke, till the last line

did you even watch the **** slap video?

you may have giggled

The "disclaimer" was to hopefully diffuse any issue from people taking it too seriously......

I'm at work, so no videos for me.

welcome to the interwebz Draco... I got your humor.. it made me smile...

you might like it,

was trying to find the pool scene from kids,

couldn't find it

It's an Audi, and it isn't an R8, so it'll understeer when pushed hard. I'll pass, thank you very much...

Audis are nice cars to buy................ while still under warranty.

TTRS > S5

:o

I drove an S5 just a month ago!

It had, and I am not exaggerating, the worst steering feel of any car I have driven in my entire life. This plethora of cars includes Minivans, shitboxes, and my beloved 1989 Volvo 240DL! It had no feel, it was unusually weighted and it was just way too quick lock to lock.

Moving on, the gearbox was rubbery and vague, and completely threw me off because I had no idea a modern manufacturer could create something so bad in this day and age.

The car was torquey, no doubt, but the sheer weight of the car made is feel so cumbersome. That combined with the steering made the car far too difficult to place on the road.

And on top of that, the interior is not that nice, certainly not the "Audi Interior" that many people had hyped me about.

Overall, one of the worst cars I've driven in my lifetime. Drove an S4 too and it was marginally better. Steering was a lot better, but everything else was pretty much the same.

My friend who I was test driving this for ended up looking at a lot of different cars including the S5, S4, Cayman, S2000, Corvette, etc...

You know where we ended?

1997 Toyota Supra. Yeah, big surprise... ;) It's bone stock. Not a single mod. 48k miles. 6-spd.

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Now, that's a drivers car, one that feels fast and feels right.

You hit the motherload there. Bone stock, low mileage Supras are getting hardddd to find. Almost got one before my FR-S but a college kid shouldn't have one because the temptation of modding it will send me right out of college. Nice find!

Get the Sport Diff and it doesn't, surprisingly. Had it out at a rainy AutoX and it turned under power.

Not as nice as the BRZ would have, though. Everything I've driven pales compared to the BRZ/FR-S. The twins are incredible for the price.

You're right about the gearbox. The manual transmission was one of the worst I've ever used. You could tell it was designed for people who want to say they have a stickshift, but don't actually want to be part of driving the car. It was more like a switch with a huge throw than anything mechanical in nature.

The DSG tranmission is surprisingly good. It doesn't have any of the things that annoy me with conventional automatics. It actually feels like a manual to drive.

The weight is certainly there. You can't hide 2 tons. But it doesn't wallow as most double-ton vehicles ten to do. It changes direction reasonably crisply.

The steering isn't great. The dynamic feature is a bit overblown with it being way too light in parking lots and a touch too heavy on the highway.

As a BRZ replacement, it actually isn't a great car. At this price bracket a Porsche or Lotus would be a better choice by far. But as a Primary car that's comfortable and sporty at the same time, its pretty good.

Walk into the club. Like, "What up, I gotta big cock."
I'm so pumped bout my Audi that's in the shop.
Got steering feel that's so damn wonky,
People like, "Damn, is he an ass or a donkey?"

What's wrong with Audi? Those DSG gearboxes are awful when new and get worse with age. Constant clunking at low speeds. A new clutch? Oh, dear god.

I'll take this as some good natured joking..

Love the post. I don't get why others get so offended, its obviously not meant 100% seriously and I don't see how a comparison between an s5 and brz could be 100% serious.

I always loved Audis though. s5 seems a top pick in that category but I've never driven one

Really? More so than the Cayman or S2k? I would take a Cayman (big surprise) or S2k over a Supra, but I'll admit that's partially personal preference. I agree about the Audis though - I've never been that impressed.

One can only hope.

In his budget, we were looking at 06-07 Caymans and a few cheap higher mileage Cayman S'. S2ks were well under the price range but they were often fairly beat up.

The issue with the Cayman was that the just didn't feel that nice. Coming from the FRS, the gearbox felt imprecise and the car just didn't feel twice as punchy as an FRS. The Cayman S was better, but between finding a decent one and all the threads about IMS failure, we stayed away.

The S2k was almost in the bag but we found a Supra that he just couldn't pass up. And the Supra was always the top choice because it does the best job of being practical, comfortable, fast, and trackable. He came from a G35, so it made the most sense.

People forget (don't even know?) Supras can fucking handle. Double wishbone front suspension and better f:r weight distribution than the twins ain't just for show. Plus 120 more hp, over double the torque, ridiculous braking and only ~500 lbs more weight.

Killer find.

Thought this was serious until I got to the last line. A tip of the hat to your snark, good sir.

@Guff That Supra is a killer find. I'm amazed you found one bone stock with that low mileage. Mind sharing how much the owner wanted for it? Just curious.

Well, the KBB on the car is around 43k, which is right around correct market value. He got it for considerably less than that, so it was definitely a steal. Especially considering the fact that the car is a 1 owner car. The original owner bought it in 1997 and then sold it in 2000 to the owner of a dealership network. He kept it registered as a dealer car and stored it in his showroom for 13 years, only taking it out occasionally in the Fall or late Spring to take it lunch or drive around town, etc. My friend bought it from this dealer and dealt with the owner directly and I'm not sure the owner really knew what it was worth... The Supra market his spiked in the last two years and cars are more valuable then they ever have been.

All in all, a good ass find! And I get to drive it all the time! :thumbup:

Hrmm really? I sat in a 2014 Cayman and played with the manual shifter a few weeks ago, it felt REALLY nice, though maybe that's because my MR2's shifter has just as much play as any other 15 year old econobox. But seriously, the linkage felt extremely solid and the gears would engage in a very short distance with a solid click. Makes me curious how the 7 speed in the 911 fares.

Oh, we were definitely not looking at 2014s. His budget wasn't nearly that high... We were looking at 05-07 Caymans...

The 2014s are apparently much better and far more refined than ever before... I would love to drive one!